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Hello everyone, and thank you for taking the time to read my thread, this will be a long one, riddled with beginner mistakes.
I have been giving a Female "Crit" on July 24th. Grown outside surrounded by a few sisters, it had been a week since it had been promised to me.
With this information, I assumed it was around 14 days old, or older.
At the time of offering, it already had a few completely yellow leaves, which I promptly cut but left some that seemed like they could recover.
This is what it looked like when I left her outside for a day or two, while I was waiting for the store to open to buy the equipment:
So, I set out to do some research. While it is legal where I live, there is a clause in my contract against it. Therefore I cannot exhaust and risk smells getting to the outside of the house, nor stink up the inside.
This led me on a futile quest for a cheap, closed loop solution. I thought I'd buy this: Mars Hydro TS1000 but called a local shop that recommended against the LED and suggested I go for 315w CMH (and as far as I can read in these forums, this was a good decision, despite the heat problem). I explained the issues and that I wanted a closed-loop where no air would go in or out, only circulate. He sold me a full kit, gave me some fertilizer and another "super-something 1-something-something" I forget the name of, for the rest of the yellowing leaves.
Once I put everything together:
This is the setup at the time of filming the first video:
After a while, temps were absolutely insane, at a scorching 33°C / 41% R.H.
Since the plant was still very young and didn't smell, I opened up the tent and put a fan in front of it.
This would now be exhausting hot air in my air conditioned bedroom, which was at 19°C near the AC, and 21°C near the tent. (AC is across the room, exhausting to the outside.)
I figured I would lower the 4-step dimmer on the ballast, and at the 145w setting, I was able to reduce temps to:
23.5 / 74% R.H. Day with the tent open
28.1 / 80% R.H. Day with the tent closed
21.7 / 45% R.H. Night (tent closed, obviously)
The local shop suggested another fan, so I bought him a booster fan and a pole-mounted fan, and I thought it would be enough CFM to cool the CMH light tube on its own like this (not my setup):
It didn't take very long for me to realize the booster fan was ABSOLUTELY not enough.
Plus, some of the research I did told me there is a need for fresh, CO2-charged air, and a perfectly closed loop with no CO2 generator is simply impossible.
So, I asked a few more questions regarding the filter and apparently even if it is exhausted in the house, it should not smell.
Okay then, I trust you, local shop owner. Used 2 old usb desk fans with a usb hub, opened up two passive intakes at the bottom of the tent, and exhausted this in the bedroom.
The setup at this point July 30th:
Trimmed it on Aug 1st, and switched to a 12/12 schedule because I read that you should put em in flowering as early as 14 or 16 days Here (and this guide is what I've been using ever since):
On August 8th, a sister was given to me as the potential owner could take take care of it. It was put together with the other one, and as such was immediately switched to 12/12. I also setup an old phone as a camera inside the tent.
August 10th:
August 16th, started reading up on monster cropping, training, etc. and tried to apply some of the things I learned. Also, at this point I returned the dimmer to 315w, because I realized I put these babies in flowering way too early and I want them to benefit more from the stronger daytime light:
At this point, I keep the tent closed all the time, daylight temps are 28.4°C / 48% R.H., night is around 23°c.
This is today, August 20th. Note, some of the bottom leaves yellowed where some fertilizer water spilled and dried.
I need to be more careful, maybe my watering can is too big. Any ideas?
Also changed the training wires to something thinner and lighter.
I believe most of the vertical growth is over at this point, so I should be focusing I getting a good flowering season and a successful harvest.
I am thinking about buying some polyester trellis netting for training, and I ordered a mini air cooler (cool water evaporator) to lower the temps and raise the humidity levels.
And so, here we are.
As you can see I am not an experienced grower by any means.
I would like to know what you think about my grow setup, what would help me get the biggest yield with the plants what I'm working with, and how to avoid any further mistakes.
Thank you all, and have a great rest of your day!
Links:
I have been giving a Female "Crit" on July 24th. Grown outside surrounded by a few sisters, it had been a week since it had been promised to me.
With this information, I assumed it was around 14 days old, or older.
At the time of offering, it already had a few completely yellow leaves, which I promptly cut but left some that seemed like they could recover.
This is what it looked like when I left her outside for a day or two, while I was waiting for the store to open to buy the equipment:
So, I set out to do some research. While it is legal where I live, there is a clause in my contract against it. Therefore I cannot exhaust and risk smells getting to the outside of the house, nor stink up the inside.
This led me on a futile quest for a cheap, closed loop solution. I thought I'd buy this: Mars Hydro TS1000 but called a local shop that recommended against the LED and suggested I go for 315w CMH (and as far as I can read in these forums, this was a good decision, despite the heat problem). I explained the issues and that I wanted a closed-loop where no air would go in or out, only circulate. He sold me a full kit, gave me some fertilizer and another "super-something 1-something-something" I forget the name of, for the rest of the yellowing leaves.
Once I put everything together:
This is the setup at the time of filming the first video:
After a while, temps were absolutely insane, at a scorching 33°C / 41% R.H.
Since the plant was still very young and didn't smell, I opened up the tent and put a fan in front of it.
This would now be exhausting hot air in my air conditioned bedroom, which was at 19°C near the AC, and 21°C near the tent. (AC is across the room, exhausting to the outside.)
I figured I would lower the 4-step dimmer on the ballast, and at the 145w setting, I was able to reduce temps to:
23.5 / 74% R.H. Day with the tent open
28.1 / 80% R.H. Day with the tent closed
21.7 / 45% R.H. Night (tent closed, obviously)
The local shop suggested another fan, so I bought him a booster fan and a pole-mounted fan, and I thought it would be enough CFM to cool the CMH light tube on its own like this (not my setup):
It didn't take very long for me to realize the booster fan was ABSOLUTELY not enough.
Plus, some of the research I did told me there is a need for fresh, CO2-charged air, and a perfectly closed loop with no CO2 generator is simply impossible.
So, I asked a few more questions regarding the filter and apparently even if it is exhausted in the house, it should not smell.
Okay then, I trust you, local shop owner. Used 2 old usb desk fans with a usb hub, opened up two passive intakes at the bottom of the tent, and exhausted this in the bedroom.
The setup at this point July 30th:
Trimmed it on Aug 1st, and switched to a 12/12 schedule because I read that you should put em in flowering as early as 14 or 16 days Here (and this guide is what I've been using ever since):
On August 8th, a sister was given to me as the potential owner could take take care of it. It was put together with the other one, and as such was immediately switched to 12/12. I also setup an old phone as a camera inside the tent.
August 10th:
August 16th, started reading up on monster cropping, training, etc. and tried to apply some of the things I learned. Also, at this point I returned the dimmer to 315w, because I realized I put these babies in flowering way too early and I want them to benefit more from the stronger daytime light:
At this point, I keep the tent closed all the time, daylight temps are 28.4°C / 48% R.H., night is around 23°c.
This is today, August 20th. Note, some of the bottom leaves yellowed where some fertilizer water spilled and dried.
I need to be more careful, maybe my watering can is too big. Any ideas?
Also changed the training wires to something thinner and lighter.
I believe most of the vertical growth is over at this point, so I should be focusing I getting a good flowering season and a successful harvest.
I am thinking about buying some polyester trellis netting for training, and I ordered a mini air cooler (cool water evaporator) to lower the temps and raise the humidity levels.
And so, here we are.
As you can see I am not an experienced grower by any means.
I would like to know what you think about my grow setup, what would help me get the biggest yield with the plants what I'm working with, and how to avoid any further mistakes.
Thank you all, and have a great rest of your day!
Links:
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