Flowering Under 315 Cmh

stonestacker · Jan 26, 2018

If you only get 2.5 off of one plant you better get out of the game.
If you grow outdoors the plants need to be under lock and key. Plus they can't be visible.
It's kinda fucked but we do what we have to to stay compliant. The feds can still come kick your door in take your shit and just about any thing else and not even charge you with a crime.

MIMedGrower · Jan 26, 2018

GrowGod said:
That makes total sense. The 2.5 ounces is insanely low amount to be allowed. If they ever do mess with you I would sue the pants off those assholes being 100% compliant.

Best result I have seen from a court case is the charges were dropped and the pot and guns were returned.

They even busted some small company last year for 3 day hang drying flowers as usable product. Bad precedent for us.

So I also date hang dry and jarred product. I will maintain in court that the jars need 2 months before they are usable.

Only way I can figure to label the drying/curing product so it looks like I would never use it. Lol.

MIMedGrower · Jan 26, 2018

stonestacker said:
2.5 oz per patient of useable or ready to use. But you can have 12 plants per patient. how stupid. Now you play the labeling game. Cuntaminated uncured etc.

Yup. Got lots of date labels on everything. I even label the plant stakes with sprout and flowering dates to show I am not doing things all at once for a big crop.

MIMedGrower · Jan 26, 2018

GrowGod said:
That’s insane! If you grew 1 outdoor plant your in trouble because it is going to produce a lot more the 2.5 ounces

I have been averaging 5.5 even on the frosty little indicas lately inside. Eh, I mean 2.5. Lol

I plan to do 6 trees next season. And keep flowering 6 inside.

With some signs, labels and seperation barriers we can double those numbers as Mrs. MMG is a card holder too.

Or her garden is the hoop house and mine is the spare bedroom. Space is the only issue. I want a climate controlled greenhouse in the yard. I bet I could have a lot of success with light dep.

I’m thinking a solid wall shed type 12x12 or so building with a transparent roof. And maybe a pair of full garden beds with a path down the middle.

Fans, ac and heat built in. Maybe replace the indoor rooms and have my house back. The plants have more rooms than us right now. Lol

MIMedGrower · Jan 26, 2018

stonestacker said:
If you only get 2.5 off of one plant you better get out of the game.
If you grow outdoors the plants need to be under lock and key. Plus they can't be visible.
It's kinda fucked but we do what we have to to stay compliant. The feds can still come kick your door in take your shit and just about any thing else and not even charge you with a crime.

Not too worried about feds with my small garden but out here in the poverty stricken woods near horribly crashed Muskegon people have problems. And they get jealous and weird. Especially the bad Growers wives and sometimes make trouble for others.

So I appear to be fully compliant officer. Who by the way we know all 6 that patrol anywhere near here. My girl cuts one of their hair.

Freshone · Jan 26, 2018

I feel bad for you guys that try to follow laws that are designed to trip you up.I have been doing this over 4 decades now and one thing I know is there is NO such thing as legal.If you put as much effort into staying on the down low as you did trying to follow rules that are impossible then you don't need to worry about much.
Get a good lawyer on retainer,keep your mouth shut and don't look the part,be a great neighbor and do your thing!

MIMedGrower · Jan 27, 2018

Freshone said:
I feel bad for you guys that try to follow laws that are designed to trip you up.I have been doing this over 4 decades now and one thing I know is there is NO such thing as legal.If you put as much effort into staying on the down low as you did trying to follow rules that are impossible then you don't need to worry about much.
Get a good lawyer on retainer,keep your mouth shut and don't look the part,be a great neighbor and do your thing!

You have to do all that too. But I’m not big enough for the retainer.

stonestacker · Jan 27, 2018

I have not put up a retainer. I just keep a list of top liars and keep my mouth shut until they show up. My right to right to remain silent.

JMcG · Jan 27, 2018

GrowGod said:
That’s insane! If you grew 1 outdoor plant your in trouble because it is going to produce a lot more the 2.5 ounces

You think that’s fucked up..?
My state currently lets me have twelve seedlings ( less than 12”) and four mature plants per client.... and one ounce of finished material each.
WTF....?

stonestacker · Jan 27, 2018

JMcG said:
You think that’s fucked up..?
My state currently lets me have twelve seedlings ( less than 12”) and four mature plants per client.... and one ounce of finished material each.
WTF....?

I thought MI was bad...

DemonTrich · Jan 27, 2018

Mi is bad.

Look at all the tools racing to get those 500/1000/1500 licences.

Lol

JMcG · Jan 27, 2018

New law taking effect any day now, I’m not confident it will get any better. At least now they are talking about allowable canopy sizes, seed to sale tracking, lab testing, etc... so we will see.

JMcG · Jan 27, 2018

Oh yeah, 5k for the license... if I stay under 10 clients, over ten = 10k :(

stonestacker · Jan 27, 2018

I'm not looking for a new carrier. I just want to grow my and my patients meds. It's just that growing is so addictive for me lol. I could shut down my flower but I need to keep my strains going.

DrPhillippe · Jan 31, 2018

Awesome thread here! Well I have to admit I've been growing dope for over two decades! I was a strict Hps with supplemental Mh lighting guy for the past 25yrs! I never bit on the Led phase. I saw & heard all too many horror stories about under developed flowers or unhealthy plants being flowered with Leds. So I just stayed away. Well these past few years I've read nothing but solid reviews & seen solid tests with Cmh lights. Fast forard to today. I completely revamped my entire garden and I run nothing but Cmh lights! Currently I'm running (20) 315s & (5) 630s. I can honestly say it was the best investment ever! I'm blowing out INSANE yields & my buds are trich covered monsters! Here's a few pics of one side of my room. These are trees and please check out my grow journal to follow along for more details & weekly pics! Either way I'll never go back to the old days. Cmh light is the future! I am a believer AMEN! Frosty, dense, bulky buds how can you not want this in your growroom? I've even done a side by side comparison with two 315w cmh lights vs one 1000w hps light. I think you pretty much already know the verdict. However I'm still going to make a thread about it. So stay tuned! Here's those amazing pics of some cmh grown bud! Be sure to check out my Cmh Tree Grow by clicking here: https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/my-tree-grow.93655/

m8ty · Jan 31, 2018

Nice fat and frosty colas singing: "Master of puppet's I'm pulling your strings"

UC Quest · Jan 31, 2018

What's everyone's opinion on a fixture that has 2 x 315 watt bulbs vs a single 630 watt de fixture ?

MIMedGrower · Jan 31, 2018

Always better to have more points of light than less.

Even better to use cmh to supplement hps for best results.

JMcG · Feb 2, 2018

Just because I couldn’t afford to change all my lighting over to CMH at once , I opted to replace half of my HPS with 315s instead. I now have them staggered and it’s working well. I am contemplating wether to leave it as is or go all CMH.
I do like the cross lighting I’m getting. Don’t need to keep them too close to the canopy cuasing undo stress.

JMcG · Feb 2, 2018

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