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Flushing is a bad practice based on flawed science.

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UCMETOO

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Hey Dabbby, what do you think of that 'Tight' space,......and did you think it was a compliment too?
 
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I don't consider OF to be "soil". You do. I would imagine if you talked with true "soil" growers they prob wouldn't consider it to be either.... but who really cares? This thread was about flushing......wtf happened to that thread? MGG
 
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Shit was rising while I was gone, I was asked in an email about this I thought I would put it here. There are a variety of different class and types of plants. Some do store food in the nodules on the roots, others store in in the roots also. For me I was referring to starches/carbs . You can google that and amylose and find more info.
And the dude with those fine lollypopped plants we see you are banging at least 3g's a watt so you just keep on going..... JK
 
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!/÷@*£|♢~¿? WTF!!
 
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Hey Dabbby, what do you think of that 'Tight' space,......and did you think it was a compliment too?
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I took it as it was typed... a Tight space = a Tight fitting space lol

Im not much for Yo dude that shits TIIIIIIGHT DOGG! :P I listen to rap but i don't live it.. :D
 
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I took it as it was typed... a Tight space = a Tight fitting space lol

Im not much for Yo dude that shits TIIIIIIGHT DOGG! :p I listen to rap but i don't live it.. :D
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It made me laugh out loud, how could you take that picture and think,......"MY SPACE IS TIGHT"
you might think My space needs to be cleaned up, sure, but TIGHT?
 
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Flushing,.......that's the ticket!
 
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delusions of grandeur .. What can i say?
 
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I don't consider OF to be "soil". You do. I would imagine if you talked with true "soil" growers they prob wouldn't consider it to be either.... but who really cares? This thread was about flushing......wtf happened to that thread? MGG
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What factual basis is your perception of ocean forest as a soilless medium based on? "I would imagine" is NOT a factual basis. No changing the subject smarty pants. You made your bed, now sleep in it.

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What factual basis is your perception of ocean forest as a soilless medium based on? "I would imagine" is NOT a factual basis. No changing the subject smarty pants. You made your bed, now sleep in it.

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Smarty pants? Really?? Funny shit.

Well the first comments were on HF not OF, either way, in my "O", neither are real "soil" and you sure aren't gonna change that. I stated my opinion, you stated yours...I can live with you thinking I'm wrong...can you? Start a fuckin thread on it and see what others think.

LMFAO @ "smarty pants"...how fuckin old are you anyway? MGG
 
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Hey i put an end to this soil talk god damnit! WIKI SOIL! :P

Back to flushing ! I flush all toliet paper! No reason to not flush it?
 
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I'll try and break a TRUE flush down...

The idea is to remove excess salts or help your plant use them up...

To do this, some offer sugar, this in turn will feed microbes which will break down complex starches and turn them into simple carbs for the plant to use up. Fancy sugar products are a HUGE waste of money, your best source will be something that has already been enzimatically digested.

I personally started using Fulvics in the last 2 weeks. Fulvics will also break down complex starches and turn them into easily digestible carbs.

If someone is flushing to remove left over garbage they need to reevaluate their feeding regimen. Your plants should be using what is given to them.
 
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I'll try and break a TRUE flush down...

The idea is to remove excess salts or help your plant use them up...

To do this, some offer sugar, this in turn will feed microbes which will break down complex starches and turn them into simple carbs for the plant to use up. Fancy sugar products are a HUGE waste of money, your best source will be something that has already been enzimatically digested.

I personally started using Fulvics in the last 2 weeks. Fulvics will also break down complex starches and turn them into easily digestible carbs.

If someone is flushing to remove left over garbage they need to reevaluate their feeding regimen. Your plants should be using what is given to them.
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How much and how do you use the Fulvics,......have heard of others going this route, with success just was never involved,........Teach me more GR33nL3af!!!
 
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I don't need to supply you with any factual basis LOL. I can have my opinions and views w/o being required to answer to you or anyone else. What would make you think I owe you a damn thing, including any "factual basis" or anymore explanation than I already have. This is a damn forum.....where folks can share their experiences, ideas and OPINIONS. Never saw anything on this sites TOS that requires people to post up factual basis for their posts. Get over it. MGG
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You said something completely false with no ability to defend what you said. You certainly don't have to defend your opinion, but in this case you can't.

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How much and how do you use the Fulvics,......have heard of others going this route, with success just was never involved,........Teach me more GR33nL3af!!!
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My personal flush...

Herculean Harvest: 2 TBS per gallon
Aphrodites Extraction: 1 TBS per gallon

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Aphrodites Ext.: 1 TBS per gallon
Ful Power: 20 ML per gallon

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Ful Power: 10ml per gallon

Harvest.

The Aphrodites is an enzimatically digested sugar source and specifically the sucrose used will make your bacteria life go crazy and break down starches. The fulvic/humic acid in Ful Power will do the same...

We are working on a spraying devise that offers such a FINE mist that it can be sprayed in late flower without any humidity spikes or mildew concern. We have experienced growers using this sprayer to apply fulpower in the last 2 weeks of flower.
 
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My personal flush...

Herculean Harvest: 2 TBS per gallon
Aphrodites Extraction: 1 TBS per gallon

next..

Aphrodites Ext.: 1 TBS per gallon
Ful Power: 20 ML per gallon

next

Ful Power: 10ml per gallon

Harvest.

The Aphrodites is an enzimatically digested sugar source and specifically the sucrose used will make your bacteria life go crazy and break down starches. The fulvic/humic acid in Ful Power will do the same...

We are working on a spraying devise that offers such a FINE mist that it can be sprayed in late flower without any humidity spikes or mildew concern. We have experienced growers using this sprayer to apply fulpower in the last 2 weeks of flower.
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Cool and thank you,.......Nectar for the gods is good stuff. I don't use it right now, and wonder about the general effects of a Calcium based nutrient Vs Botanicare CNS and if it would make a difference running this flush without using the calcium based nutes for the grow?
 
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Cool and thank you,.......Nectar for the gods is good stuff. I don't use it right now, and wonder about the general effects of a Calcium based nutrient Vs Botanicare CNS and if it would make a difference running this flush without using the calcium based nutes for the grow?
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I use grow more for my base with a select few nectar additives. After I finish my grow more I'll prob go back to Jack's 3-2-1. I use the herc primarily for the flushing properties and the Ful Power is the cleanest, most potent Fulvic source I've worked with.

So you wouldnt have a problem applying these products to any existing regimen
 
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thank you, amazing what you can learn if your OPEN, and not insecure!

wondered because i've seen/heard the plants get crazy for the Cal after you add the Aphrodities, and having none in reserve with CNS did not want to cause a deficency at the flag!

now that seems right on the BULLSEYE for POINT!
 
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Gotta admit these last few posts have been quite informing i'll be passing this information off to my grower and see if he can perhaps use this info :D ( Im sure he can!!! lol )

Thanks Guys! and Gals if there were / are any :D
 
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thank you, amazing what you can learn if your OPEN, and not insecure!

wondered because i've seen/heard the plants get crazy for the Cal after you add the Aphrodities, and having none in reserve with CNS did not want to cause a deficency at the flag!

now that seems right on the BULLSEYE for POINT!
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you can get phos pro from grow more to use along side the cns, I have for years with good results
 
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