@iCultivate There's not only sea lions and krill, I edited my post and added this article:
Radiation? Seals, Sea Lions, Polar Bears, Bald Eagles, Sea Stars, Turtles, King and Sockeye Salmon, Herring, Anchovies and Sardines In The Western Part of North America All Suffering Mysterious Diseases At the Same Time

This is getting really serious.

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Both these maps are fakes by the way, one should always check their sources. They are not based on any sort or real readings or scientific data what-so-ever. This situation is definitely something we need to be aware of but spreading fear doesn't help anyone.

@Blaze It's pretty hard to get real infos since the mean stream medias don't mention much about it.
Here I have a interesting article about Fukushima hoax and truth:

2700 words • 12~19 min read
28 fallacies about the Fukushima nuclear disaster’s effect on the US West Coast
The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is back in the news, with recent reports of continued leaks. Coming on the heels of these new reports is a viral blog post entitled 28 Signs That The West Coast Is Being Absolutely Fried With Nuclear Radiation From Fukushima. The article is a paranoid, poorly reasoned attempt to link the tragedy of the Fukushima disaster to just about every environmental issue facing the US west coast in the last few months. At its best, it’s an illogical piece of post-modern absurdism. At its worst, its empirically false and intentionally misleading, rife with out-of-context quotes and cherry-picked data. The author had 28 chances to make a single reasonable point, and every single one rang hollow.

Of course it went viral.

Read the rest of this article here:
source: http://www.southernfriedscience.com/?p=15903


Here's is news of the today, they are getting homeless people to clean the mess at Fukushima !


This maps are not fake, similar result have been shown by some simulation done by:


Here's the other one simulation on oceans:


Of course those are just simulation, but it still give us a little idea of how far and fast radiation can spread.

No need to be a official scientific nowadays. With the right knowledge and computer software, anyone could run this kind of simulation. Even in 3d Max or Cinema 4d.

TheCoolestMan said:

@iCultivate There's not only sea lions and krill, I edited my post and added this article:
Radiation? Seals, Sea Lions, Polar Bears, Bald Eagles, Sea Stars, Turtles, King and Sockeye Salmon, Herring, Anchovies and Sardines In The Western Part of North America All Suffering Mysterious Diseases At the Same Time

This is getting really serious.

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did ya read the article ya posted yerself above? gives good reasons why fukushima is less than likely to be the cause of these problems.

neverbreak

@neverbreak yes I did, I posted it here on a purpose. I'm trying to gather as much infos as I can. But all those articles only shows that we don't know much of what is going on. Some think all those animals death are linked to Fukushima, but without real studies and evidence it's impossible to know. Only time will tell.

but there are studies bro, perhaps only a few, but those indicate that there are other causes at hand.

gonna quote the conclusion of that article ya posted, as it's good and worth readin for those that didn't read the article.

The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster was an unparalleled environmental catastrophe and we will be seeing fallout from it for years to come. I honestly cannot think of any reason to fabricate a bunch of paranoid talking points to make it seem worse. Thousands of people were displaced from their home, many of them permanently. Contaminated waste was, and still is, being dumped into the water surround the plant. The energy infrastructure of an entire nation was compromised. Do we really need to blame Fukushima on a viral outbreak in British Columbia, too?

To put things in perspective, the Fukushima disaster released approximately one ten-thousandth of the total radiation produce by the world’s coal power plants annually. That number will either be reassuring or terrifying, but, really, it should be both.

There is another reason why articles like this are so compelling, particularly to those in rich, developed countries. It gives us the ability to blame the “foreign other” for our own environmental crises. It’s not our fault that salmon stocks are collapsing, it’s the Japanese! We aren’t the ones driving polar bears and marine mammal moralities, Fukushima did it! The West Coast of the United States is being fried. It’s being fried by over-fishing, agricultural run-off, runaway development, and a host of other issues, but it’s not being fried by Fukushima, and articles that promote that fallacious argument are distracting us from the dominant causes of environmental degradation on our coasts: Us.

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neverbreak

Yes but doesn't prove 100% that none of sudden animals death are not linkable to Fukushima (Which I doubt by the way). But is always better to have as many views on the subject as we can.

Here is a article I translated. This from official media that pretexted to debunked hoax for bringing their truth about Fukushima.:

However, this diversion should not forget that radioactive elements escape indeed from Fukushima to end up in the ocean. Since the disaster, the operator Tepco is indeed facing a major problem: radioactive water. 400,000 tonnes of contaminated water after being used to cool the reactors, are accumulated on the site - 300,000 in tanks and the rest in the basement of the plant. Consequence: 300 tons of contaminated water (including cesium, strontium and tritium) end up in the sea every day from groundwater. Leaking tanks are also regularly discovered, as we explained in this video:

Conclusion: the plume of cesium-137 issued in the months that followed the disaster is expected to reach the northwest coast of the U.S. at the beginning of next year, but at levels safe for health. A powerful current passing near the coast of Japan, the Kuroshio has indeed diluted radioactivity in four months to lower the standards of the World Health Organization levels, while vortices Pacific continued this process of dilution. Researchers predict rates between 10 and 30 becquerels per cubic meter (Bq/m3) on the coast of Oregon and Washington between 2014 and 2020 and between 10 and 20 Bq/m3 in California between 2016 and 2025.

This graph shows the concentrations of cesium-137 in the surface ocean (from 0 - 200 m) in April 2012 (a), April 2014 (b), April 2016 (c) and April 2021 (d).



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When the gov says "don't worry it's ll good, eat the fish" I don't trust them :)

Word ^^^^ You know what? Ever since the government said "All's Well That Ends Well... No Worries" and Raised :confused: the exceptable levels of Radiation Exposure for Our safety after the Fukushimia Disaster I've been going through the X-ray machines multiple times for the T.S.A. @ Airports, Have my dentist "Hit Me" 10 or 12 times to make sure he got "My Best Side" and my buddy that works as A janitor @ the hospital shoots me through the M.R.I. with my headphones on as many times as possible while he polishes the floors... Bro, My Tan has Never Been Better... I mean, It's like I'm Glowing Man... ;)

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For Immediate Release: Apr 08, 2013
Contact: Kirsten Stade (202) 265-7337

WHITE HOUSE APPROVES RADICAL RADIATION CLEANUP ROLLBACK
Civilian Cancer Deaths Expected to Skyrocket Following Radiological Incidents

Posted on Apr 08, 2013 | Tags: EPA

Washington, DC — The White House has given final approval for dramatically raising permissible radioactive levels in drinking water and soil following “radiological incidents,” such as nuclear power-plant accidents and dirty bombs. The final version, slated for Federal Register publication as soon as today, is a win for the nuclear industry which seeks what its proponents call a “new normal” for radiation exposure among the U.S population, according Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER).

Issued by the Environmental Protection Agency, the radiation guides (called Protective Action Guides or PAGs) allow cleanup many times more lax than anything EPA has ever before accepted. These guides govern evacuations, shelter-in-place orders, food restrictions and other actions following a wide range of “radiological emergencies.” The Obama administration blocked a version of these PAGs from going into effect during its first days in office. The version given approval late last Friday is substantially similar to those proposed under Bush but duck some of the most controversial aspects:

In soil, the PAGs allow long-term public exposure to radiation in amounts as high as 2,000 millirems. This would, in effect, increase a longstanding 1 in 10,000 person cancer rate to a rate of 1 in 23 persons exposed over a 30-year period;

• In water, the PAGs punt on an exact new standard and EPA “continues to seek input on this.” But the thrust of the PAGs is to give on-site authorities much greater “flexibility” in setting aside established limits; and
• Resolves an internal fight inside EPA between nuclear versus public health specialists in favor of the former. The PAGs are the product of Gina McCarthy, the assistant administrator for air and radiation whose nomination to serve as EPA Administrator is taken up this week by the Senate.
• Despite the years-long internal fight, this is the first public official display of these guides. This takes place as Japan grapples with these same issues in the two years following its Fukushima nuclear disaster.

“This is a public health policy only Dr. Strangelove could embrace. If this typifies the environmental leadership we can expect from Ms. McCarthy, then EPA is in for a long, dirty slog,” stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch, noting that the EPA package lacks a cogent rationale, is largely impenetrable and hinges on a series of euphemistic “weasel words.” “No compelling justification is offered for increasing the cancer deaths of Americans innocently exposed to corporate miscalculations several hundred-fold.”

Reportedly, the PAGs had been approved last fall but their publication was held until after the presidential election. The rationale for timing their release right before McCarthy’s confirmation hearing is unclear.

Since the PAGs guide agency decision-making and do not formally set standards or repeal statutory requirements, such as the Safe Drinking Water Act and Superfund, they will go into full effect following a short public comment period. Nonetheless, the PAGs will likely determine what actions take place on the ground in the days, weeks, months and, in some cases, years following a radiological emergency.

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Link -> -> -> http://www.peer.org/news/news-relea...-approves-radical-radiation-cleanup-rollback/

See the EPA PAG posting

View some of the internal controversy

Gov. Runs When Questioned On Massive Iodine Purchase

Don't it make you wonder? People have such A hard time Reading Between the Lines / Connecting the Dots... but when you see A document dumped that says "We decided today (The E.P.A. no less) that people are just not getting enough Radiation" everybody "Eats It" Hook, Line and Sinker... WTF is wrong with people these days? :confused:

Well said. What's wrong with people? They can no longer think for themselves....and the others are just afraid to accept the truth.

SoCal 420 said:

Don't it make you wonder? People have such A hard time Reading Between the Lines / Connecting the Dots... but when you see A document dumped that says "We decided today (The E.P.A. no less) that people are just not getting enough Radiation" everybody "Eats It" Hook, Line and Sinker... WTF is wrong with people these days? :confused:

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So I'm gonna ask it again for those of you who are so concerned about this issue...How often do you eat McDonald's, Taco Bell, Jack in the Box, Burger King. Do you smoke tobacco? Drink Red Bull? Monster? Non organic produce and meat(s)?

I'll bite... I don't eat or drink any of the stuff you listed... or smoke tobacco. Is there radiation present in the stuff above or what?

Edit: Fresh Meat & Produce via. local farmers markets. I think "Organic" is Overpriced / Rated but that's just me...

@pinegrovedave @SoCal 420 Personally I don't eat junk food, don't smoke tobacco, and I hate red bulls or energy drinks. But even if someone like them sometimes, doesn't mean that we are guilty and deserve to be irradiated by Fukushima ! Or have to shut their mouth and don't complain cause they eat weekly at Mc Donald.

I'm not implying that at all, I'm just pointing out how "misplaced" our concerns can be. I don't believe I even intimated that "we" deserve to be exposed to radiation. Just pointing out how funny it is when some will bring an issue such as this up and then turn around and eat pesticide laden, GMO foods...or just an overall unhealthy lifestyle that isn't conducive to good health.

pinegrovedave said:

So I'm gonna ask it again for those of you who are so concerned about this issue...How often do you eat McDonald's, Taco Bell, Jack in the Box, Burger King. Do you smoke tobacco? Drink Red Bull? Monster? Non organic produce and meat(s)?

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C'mon Dave...none of that is sensational enough.... and people die far too SLOWLY for any of that to interest the masses who survive on the latest doomsday theory.

what a person chooses to eat or drink is there own health choice... if i live in japan and don't want to eat mcdonalds idon't have too...exposure to shit from fukashima there is not optional...

I eat well, I do smoke tobacco and I also go for runs all the time. I'm not saying I'm healthy but I am far better off than the average. exposure to radiation I can only control by where I am (and what we intake...).
What is upsetting to me about this potential(where is the fucking data!) disaster is the effect on the ocean(s) and the air- the stuff the animals live in.

PB

TheCoolestMan said:

@pinegrovedave @SoCal 420 Personally I don't eat junk food, don't smoke tobacco, and I hate red bulls or energy drinks. But even if someone like them sometimes, doesn't mean that we are guilty and deserve to be irradiated by Fukushima ! Or have to shut their mouth and don't complain cause they eat weekly at Mc Donald.

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That ^^^^ is A mater of "Choice"... Your choice and that is Exactly how it should be. You talk about GMO's, Pesticides by Dow, Organically Grown vs. standard farming techniques and people Jump right up, Shit loads of people, with their panties in A Knot in A full Up Roar. Radiation in food??? Denial, skepticism, conspiracy theory, Name calling, Finger pointing...

So, for starters, we'll just allow 5X the amount of Radiation in the food you eat, and if they "Eat it"... Because they don't know or choose to do so out of ignorance... We will be "Happy" to sell our Radiation Poisoned "Stamped Organic Fish and Produce" and your Federal Government will "Allow" us to do so... (E.P.A. Raises acceptable Radiation Levels in Food, post #68 above) Peoples Reaction "Yawn" :meh: Like I said before, and I'll say it again...
WTF is wrong with people these days? :confused:

Labels for GMO's, Organic and Calories??? I'd sleep "Hella" more Easy with "Radiation Free" Labels...

@SoCal 420 Yes exactly but can we talk about "free choice" when I didn't choose to get my food poison by radiation? Is it still a "free choice" when u have a gun on ur head with the gun holder asking u to choose between the plague and cholera?! The rules and regulation concerning producing organic food, have been change so many times, that today's organic ain't even TRUE organic. Good thing is that generally, farmers that grow organically have a ethical stand, compare to huge conventional farms.

I bet a lot of people will want to go out and fight for their rights, but when they see others doing so and getting beat up by the police and military forces, it stopped them. Remember the 99% at Wall Street? But lot of People nowadays careless about eating shitty food, or being irradiated by Fukushima, or the wars around the world! As long as they can afford the latest Iphone, they happy!! God bless the people who knows that in those days of crisis better, save the cash and buy peaceful land in the country.