General help and recommendations please.

[KolaKing]

I got the additional scrog yesterday and the new light today. The girls are looking great. No signs of aphids for the last few days. I'll post pics if anything interesting happens. So probably a few weeks if it's smooth.

Something a botanist told me. I had asked him about pests and pesticides and he told me that all plants have defense mechanisms that they've developed over the eons to protect themselves from everything from animals to weather. He said that when a plant gets a bug infestation it is a sign that the plant is not 100% healthy. He said that when he finds plants infested with bugs he doesn't treat the bugs as much as he treats the plant. He said a healthy plant should be able to fend off most any bug that it naturally has encountered. He said that once the plant is healthy the bugs will leave and look for easier prey. Granted, there are limits to the defense system. If the infestation is extreme even a healthy plant won't be able to fend off all the bugs. I'm guessing whatever you did in regard to pesticide control together with an improvement in plant health are what is fueling the lack of aphids. He also stressed the importance of using silica to enhance cell wall structure making it harder for bugs to pierce the plant.

 

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With the flip, I'm seeing some changes on one of the plants. Is this one a male?

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

We need a closer-up picture of the actual flower. I enlarged it using a photo editor and it looks male but before saying for sure 100%, please provide a close up picture of a flower cluster. My app blurs the photo above 200% enlargement.

 

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Here's a few.

It's 7 days after flip. I didn't expect to see flower this soon. I'm pretty sure too.

 

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[Mannitu78]

you shouldnt use these "bucket pots"...they can work if watered perfectly, but even in the best case you have still worse/slower root development than with any other pot with pruning-effect. Use airpots or cheap-fabric pots.

 

[spase]

This is the one plant that has had some other issues. One set of leaves had yellowed a bit. Looked like light burn. Could it be herme?

 

[Mannitu78]

i hope you let the pots dry out really well...biggest beginner trap along with over fertilizing. The fear of "if i dont water today they are thirsty and will suffer"...pots need to get very light, i know its counter intuitive in the beginning.

120ppm N /60ppm Phosphate/120ppm Potassium with every watering when grwowing in soil, thats what Buckbee says, thats what works perfectly. And its much lower than most people use.


im not 100% sure, but the last pics looks kind of a herma to me. I think i see little sacks. Had that only 1 single time so far on 1 plant. But i only use photos.


edit: 1 more thing, it looks to me like you flipped pretty early. using photos, right? You seem to have a reasonable large tent, i guess its at least 6 feet tall. Let the plants grwo and get some mass before switching. They look like something between 1 foot and 1,5 feet tall......wait at least until they reach 2- 2,5 feet.

 

[HerbalEdu]

With the flip, I'm seeing some changes on one of the plants. Is this one a male?

yeah look's male

 

[KolaKing]

Balls incoming.......

 

[KolaKing]

i hope you let the pots dry out really well...biggest beginner trap along with over fertilizing. The fear of "if i dont water today they are thirsty and will suffer"...pots need to get very light, i know its counter intuitive in the beginning.

120ppm N /60ppm Phosphate/120ppm Potassium with every watering when grwowing in soil, thats what Buckbee says, thats what works perfectly. And its much lower than most people use.


im not 100% sure, but the last pics looks kind of a herma to me. I think i see little sacks. Had that only 1 single time so far on 1 plant. But i only use photos.


edit: 1 more thing, it looks to me like you flipped pretty early. using photos, right? You seem to have a reasonable large tent, i guess its at least 6 feet tall. Let the plants grwo and get some mass before switching. They look like something between 1 foot and 1,5 feet tall......wait at least until they reach 2- 2,5 feet.

Agree. Manufacturer feed rates are way too high. I usually max out at a little over half of what they recommend.

 

[Mannitu78]

some do. I have this "probud" 2 component mineral from ebay. 2x1 Liter. If you use both, you come with 11-8-16. And they advice you to take 4-5ml /Liter of each the whole grow. So you end up with 550ppm/400ppm/800ppm. Also a lot of calcium , magnesium etc. Took 3-4 weeks until my e plants had severe issues and all kinds of symptoms.

Good thing, if you know what youre doing, you only take 1 ml of each bottle and you have a great and very cheap fertilizer. used that for a few grows now and the bottles are still not empty^^
they absolutely have no idea what theyre doing.

There are also some brands that play that game from the other side, they make the soup super thin, so you basically end up using a whole cup of products each watering and end up just in that 120/60/120 area. They basically make you pay 1-2 dollar each watering...if youre naive enough enoguh to alo incorporate all their "extra secret juices"

 

[spase]

you shouldnt use these "bucket pots"...they can work if watered perfectly, but even in the best case you have still worse/slower root development than with any other pot with pruning-effect. Use airpots or cheap-fabric pots.

I recently read up on those. I'm currently deciding what direction I want to go. I'm thinking I might go fabric with coco and a drip. I might go DWC. Maybe aero.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

That dude might look like a lady ... but its 100% dude going on there ...

 

[Mannitu78]

id just go with cheap fabrics. They make a dense rootball just as good as superrot/airpots. Had the chance to compare them more than once. The airpots can be a pain to water, you cant just water them in one run, especially when theyre dry.(what they should be when you water)..while the fabric pots, they will just suck back any water that rinses through..if you have them on a dish/cup.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

id just go with cheap fabrics. They make a dense rootball just as good as superrot/airpots. Had the chance to compare them more than once. The airpots can be a pain to water, while the fabric pots, they will just suck back any water that rinses through..if you have them on a dish/cup.

I'll second that. Sometimes airpots pee water out the holes. I use fabric pots 100% of the time. I even will wash them and reuse until they wear out.

 

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edit: 1 more thing, it looks to me like you flipped pretty early. using photos, right? You seem to have a reasonable large tent, i guess its at least 6 feet tall. Let the plants grwo and get some mass before switching. They look like something between 1 foot and 1,5 feet tall......wait at least until they reach 2- 2,5 feet.

The shortest is about 18 inches. The tallest about 22. I'm not sure how much they'll stretch, so I'm erring on the short side. Plus I'm impatient...

The room is about 6.5 feet tall.

 

[Mannitu78]

if theyre Sativa they can gain and additional 70-80%..meaning a 2 feet plant can get up to 3,5 feet app. Indicas stay smaller. Next time youll be able to judge better when to flip. Its not just that a big plant has more yield, its got more mass and ressources to rely on when things get not so optimal.

They should also grow faster next time when you use fabrics so you wont have to wait as long.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

if theyre Sativa they can gain and additional 70-80%..meaning a 2 feet plant can get up to 3,5 feet app. Indicas stay smaller. Next time youll be able to judge better when to flip. Its not just that a big plant has more yield, its got more mass and ressources to rely on when things get not so optimal.

They should also grow faster next time when you use fabrics so you wont have to wait as long.

Over the years though, that stretch relationship to indicas/sativas has become blurred because so much of the modern strains are hybrids. When in doubt, look at breeder estimates for final plant size.

 

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I am drying back well, I think. I check the soil a bit, and the weight, but I'm mostly waiting on the plant to just start to show, then saturate the pots.