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Looks beautiful. Thanks Phreak! Man it’s hitting hard at the moment! Most the room hermed on me : / got three that havent and they are the three that dont look pollinated or as much as some of the others. I chopped two of them that were really throwin the...
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Looks beautiful.
Thanks Phreak! Man it’s hitting hard at the moment! Most the room hermed on me : / got three that havent and they are the three that dont look pollinated or as much as some of the others. I chopped two of them that were really throwin the nanners just to try and mitigate pollination. As i was really digging around checking things i found a fuck ton more nanners so im letting everything ride lol! I’ll have some super early unfinished herb to smoke on in another week though, so i got that going for me 🤣 and now im working on how im going to make concentrates out of pollinated seeded out herb, probably make some sifting type screen that’ll catch keif and seeds! : )

that pic of the outdoor is the plant that looks the worst. i think im going to water all the outdoor today, im going to mix in some green leaf nutes for (chucky’s little B’s) and then just water alone the rest : ) i dont have a moisture meter, was looking at getting one to just learn the pots and the watering characteristics of them.

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Thanks Phreak! Man it’s hitting hard at the moment! Most the room hermed on me : / got three that havent and they are the three that dont look pollinated or as much as some of the others. I chopped two of them that were really throwin the nanners just to try and mitigate pollination. As i was really digging around checking things i found a fuck ton more nanners so im letting everything ride lol! I’ll have some super early unfinished herb to smoke on in another week though, so i got that going for me 🤣 and now im working on how im going to make concentrates out of pollinated seeded out herb, probably make some sifting type screen that’ll catch keif and seeds! : )

that pic of the outdoor is the plant that looks the worst. i think im going to water all the outdoor today, im going to mix in some green leaf nutes for (chucky’s little B’s) and then just water alone the rest : ) i dont have a moisture meter, was looking at getting one to just learn the pots and the watering characteristics of them.

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Damn Bear what strain hermed on you?? I had a beautiful Kahuna that was gonna be glorious develop full on male flowers in the back corner of my 2x2 a day after flipping it to 12/12 . Was such a bummer. I cut it down and sprayed it down with water and let it sit a few days before removing it. Worst part was that it wasn’t the entire plant, it was just one branch that appeared out of nowhere and threw out flowers and dropped pollen overnight.
 
Damn Bear what strain hermed on you?? I had a beautiful Kahuna that was gonna be glorious develop full on male flowers in the back corner of my 2x2 a day after flipping it to 12/12 . Was such a bummer. I cut it down and sprayed it down with water and let it sit a few days before removing it. Worst part was that it wasn’t the entire plant, it was just one branch that appeared out of nowhere and threw out flowers and dropped pollen overnight.
I was able to get the critical peyote (both plants), two t1000s and two frostettes : ( Capt’s NL86 is a tank and the other Hindu Kush x SFV OG are solid also!

These didnt herm easy either : ) i had had multi mornings of my room reaching 95 plus and waterings are less than constant. (Thats a whole sob story I’ll save for myself lol) my humidity was all over the place too : / no complaints and im only blaming myself : ) i should be able to still pull some concentrates out of the bunch! And im not apposed to a seed or two poppin in my face! 🤣 ✌️
 
I was able to get the critical peyote (both plants), two t1000s and two frostettes : ( Capt’s NL86 is a tank and the other Hindu Kush x SFV OG are solid also!

These didnt herm easy either : ) i had had multi mornings of my room reaching 95 plus and waterings are less than constant. (Thats a whole sob story I’ll save for myself lol) my humidity was all over the place too : / no complaints and im only blaming myself : ) i should be able to still pull some concentrates out of the bunch! And im not apposed to a seed or two poppin in my face! 🤣 ✌️
I saw 91, 97 and 100 degrees yesterday in my three tents. I ended up dimming all the lights as low as possible and opened up the top corners of each tent. I like summertime, but I hate the challenge of environmental control in this pos trailer that I call home. I took a summer off a couple years ago and I missed growing so much that I’ve been constantly ongoing year round ever since. I should probably start watering daily and using kelp extract from here on out, I would use silica too but I think @Thatoneguyyouknow_ strongly cautioned against it being used mid flower in organic soil. So I’m going to aire on the side of caution.
 
I saw 91, 97 and 100 degrees yesterday in my three tents. I ended up dimming all the lights as low as possible and opened up the top corners of each tent. I like summertime, but I hate the challenge of environmental control in this pos trailer that I call home. I took a summer off a couple years ago and I missed growing so much that I’ve been constantly ongoing year round ever since. I should probably start watering daily and using kelp extract from here on out, I would use silica too but I think @Thatoneguyyouknow_ strongly cautioned against it being used mid flower in organic soil. So I’m going to aire on the side of caution.
i dont think it would hurt anything as long as you dont drown em in it. Just make damn sure when you put minerals like silica, magnesium, calcium, as a water soluble feed into a totally organic situation, that it goes in at that 6.5-6.8ph range, and not over 200ppm or so, or youre going to either see some lockout symptoms, or mineral burn to follow. If just straight silica i wouldnt go over 120ppm personally.


My entire growing method circulates around fairly organically rich soils that i supplemental feed solubles over top of. PH and ppm/ec is of utmost, and critical importance in this context. They are the single most important metrics you can monitor when you start putting soluble minerals over organic rich soils in a small container.

If you dont have an accurately calibrated ph meter and tds meter, dont even bother trying to put soluble minerals or salts over top of your biologically active soils. Dont. Just runa more intense top dress regiment or larger containers next go or something. You could potentially cause a pretty catastrophic cascading problem. (its actually quite likely, not just a potential)

If you run too much, or un ph'd silica into an active soil, you could spike the PH quite high, its very alkaline, this would essentially shut down the entire decomposition process feeding your plants from the micro flora/fauna breaking the nutrients down, would lock out phosphorous, as well as micronutrients, causing calcium toxicity along side micros and phosphorous deficiencies that arent actually deficiencies, and all kinds of weird shit.
 
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i dont think it would hurt anything as long as you dont drown em in it. Just make damn sure when you put minerals like silica, magnesium, calcium, as a water soluble feed into a totally organic situation, that it goes in at that 6.5-6.8ph range, and not over 200ppm or so, or youre going to either see some lockout symptoms, or mineral burn to follow. If just straight silica i wouldnt go over 120ppm personally.


My entire growing method circulates around fairly organically rich soils that i supplemental feed solubles over top of. PH and ppm/ec is of utmost, and critical importance in this context. They are the single most important metrics you can monitor when you start putting soluble minerals over organic rich soils in a small container.

If you dont have an accurately calibrated ph meter and tds meter, dont even bother trying to put soluble minerals or salts over top of your biologically active soils. Dont. Just runa more intense top dress regiment or larger containers next go or something. You could potentially cause a pretty catastrophic cascading problem. (its actually quite likely, not just a potential)

If you run too much, or un ph'd silica into an active soil, you could spike the PH quite high, its very alkaline, this would essentially shut down the entire decomposition process feeding your plants from the micro flora/fauna breaking the nutrients down, would lock out phosphorous, as well as micronutrients, causing calcium toxicity along side micros and phosphorous deficiencies that arent actually deficiencies, and all kinds of weird shit.
Thanks for the explanation TOGY! Yeah I’ve seen it used and (my simple mind would of just ran with it because it can help in hotter grow rooms)🤣

so im in a peat based “bro mix” its like pro mix lol. and i feed with green leaf nutrients. now im not very versed at all in anything around here so please help me understand or correct me if im wrong. green leaf nutrients is enough “organic” to keep living soil alive and feeding the plants right? now i know they dont have the “omri” or whatever but they claim right on their package that it will help the medium : ) OH! i got Gaia in there also!

So i guess my question is am I running an organic fast feed, and would the silica harm the “living aspect of my bro mix”? ✌️
 
Thanks for the explanation TOGY! Yeah I’ve seen it used and (my simple mind would of just ran with it because it can help in hotter grow rooms)🤣

so im in a peat based “bro mix” its like pro mix lol. and i feed with green leaf nutrients. now im not very versed at all in anything around here so please help me understand or correct me if im wrong. green leaf nutrients is enough “organic” to keep living soil alive and feeding the plants right? now i know they dont have the “omri” or whatever but they claim right on their package that it will help the medium : ) OH! i got Gaia in there also!

So i guess my question is am I running an organic fast feed, and would the silica harm the “living aspect of my bro mix”? ✌️
green leaf soluble arent organic. Youre growing salt feed over soiless. technically hydro lol. Promix isnt a soil, its technically soiless medium with some added minerals.

If youre running something like green leaf's mega crop over somthing akin to promix (peat/perlite), you can actually only get aawy without PH'ing that formula because it has enough calcium and micros to balance out and function well enough in an acidic lockout situation.

If you PH something like mega crop to where it should be, or use it over qa true soil, youll burn your plants with the calcium levels at a fairly low ph and the plants cant take more then 600ppfd in flower.

Most green leaf's base 1 part solubles already have silica in them too already, and ifg you add a dditonal potassium silicate youll pull the mega crop out of "homeostasis" with the plant so to speak and end up with some funky alkaline lockout and mineral burn issues just like a living super soil or something.

I wouldnt consider supplementing anything mineral based over top of a green leaf 1 part fertilizer if that is what you are using. Just run it as is or switch to something easier to dial in along side other nutrients imho.

Theres nothing wrong with the green leaf feeds though, but the 1 parts only work as they are, mostly by themselves or just as light supplementation over organic situations. but they arent organic feeds, and you aren't actually growing in soil either technically. If you want to dial anything in specifically for a plant you gotta move into more complex multi part regiments, or go the full organic/top dress route usually.

i use green leaf's pk boosts. Love em. So cost effective its unreal. And so is megacrop. Its a perfect thing if you run lots of plants ya gotta take care of at the same time, and you select phenos by how well they perform with your process. Its like the best fertilizer ever for that context. You just cant dial it to a specific or picky plant very easily, it works most effectively the other way around from that.
 
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@MartyMcFly42oh most silica supplements are potassium silicate and quite alkaline, i believe some are silica Dioxide, and a lot more PH stable because of it.
I use a readily available version of mono silic acid, at 5ml per gallon, but I let my fancy ph meeter dry out so I wont even bother. The stuff is called Stout msa, by a company called the Alchemist. Not the beer brewer in Vermont or the hip hop producer 🤣
 
I use a readily available version of mono silic acid, at 5ml per gallon, but I let my fancy ph meeter dry out so I wont even bother. The stuff is called Stout msa, by a company called the Alchemist. Not the beer brewer in Vermont or the hip hop producer 🤣
i only bother with silica when i hav a plant that cant hold its buds, or a plant with exceptional resin content but lackluster trichome coverage (when messing with your own lineages you end up with crazy dank, potent phenos, that lack in the frost department more often then when they dont, these are usually my best quality flowers too lmao, not always tho obviously)

When ive run silica over super frosty sativas that were already potent, but kinda dry on resin content (you know, the kiefy sativas, thers many these days) all it did was make it even drier, and burn even hotter, and even more kiefy. It genuinely deminishd the quality of my maui86 pheno and some other sativas ive had over the years. On those plants the *only* benefit ive ever turned over is bag appeal. it even made the flowers noticably more difficult and tough to grind. No tangible, usable benefits whatsoever with her.

Banjo has wimpy ass stems, and CRAZY natural resin content though, silica supplementation improves the quality of her smoke, and the appearance both. As well as keeps me from having to tie her up for a few weeks longer into flower.

Silica just mkes my maui pheno dry and kiefy, and makes the trichomes reflect more light. It actually kinda destroys her smoke quality completely lol.

Silica is a double edged sword imho, and should only be applied with certain plants in certain contexts.

Outdoors in ground ive never actually noticed a single difference with or without additional silica. Was a totally non relevant factor all together. Probably because most soil is full of silica naturally. Is Prob *super* useful in an outdoor grow bag situation with most plants though but i dont do that kinda growing outdoors. In ground or bust on this side of the country imho.
 
green leaf soluble arent organic. Youre growing salt feed over soiless. technically hydro lol. Promix isnt a soil, its technically soiless medium with some added minerals.

If youre running something like green leaf's mega crop over somthing akin to promix (peat/perlite), you can actually only get aawy without PH'ing that formula because it has enough calcium and micros to balance out and function well enough in an acidic lockout situation.

If you PH something like mega crop to where it should be, or use it over qa true soil, youll burn your plants with the calcium levels at a fairly low ph and the plants cant take more then 600ppfd in flower.

Most green leaf's base 1 part solubles already have silica in them too already, and ifg you add a dditonal potassium silicate youll pull the mega crop out of "homeostasis" with the plant so to speak and end up with some funky alkaline lockout and mineral burn issues just like a living super soil or something.

I wouldnt consider supplementing anything mineral based over top of a green leaf 1 part fertilizer if that is what you are using. Just run it as is or switch to something easier to dial in along side other nutrients imho.

Theres nothing wrong with the green leaf feeds though, but the 1 parts only work as they are, mostly by themselves or just as light supplementation over organic situations. but they arent organic feeds, and you aren't actually growing in soil either technically. If you want to dial anything in specifically for a plant you gotta move into more complex multi part regiments, or go the full organic/top dress route usually.
Thank you, very much for this breakdown! : ) just when you think you have a grasp on things! 😆

so what you are saying is I can call myself a hydro grower!?😳🤣✌️and im a lucky idiot! hahaha. literally the one combo you can get away with not ph”ing and i got it and thought i was doing good! hahahahah!

so im a tinkerer, and this lineup of nutes fit so freaking perfectly with allowing me to tinker but still feel like im letting the plant and “medium” 😆 do its thing!

Im absolutely not going to water my outdoor plants with green leaf. Thank you for preventing a horrible situation! I’ll top dress them today with the Gaia and hope it becomes available on the outdoor stuff!

Thank you for taking the time to explain things, and setting me straight! I had some ideas and kind of let my imagination run with them.

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Thank you, very much for this breakdown! : ) just when you think you have a grasp on things! 😆

so what you are saying is I can call myself a hydro grower!?😳🤣✌️and im a lucky idiot! hahaha. literally the one combo you can get away with not ph”ing and i got it and thought i was doing good! hahahahah!

so im a tinkerer, and this lineup of nutes fit so freaking perfectly with allowing me to tinker but still feel like im letting the plant and “medium” 😆 do its thing!

Im absolutely not going to water my outdoor plants with green leaf. Thank you for preventing a horrible situation! I’ll top dress them today with the Gaia and hope it becomes available on the outdoor stuff!

Thank you for taking the time to explain things, and setting me straight! I had some ideas and kind of let my imagination run with them.

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you are doing good, definitely didnt mean to imply otherwise.

Lol, greenleaf should work better outdoors then in actually. Especially if planting in ground. How healthy it is for the soil is another question, but it would actually work even better outside in most cases. PH monitoring becomes a lot less important under natural sunlight and with real rainfall and naturally accumulated soil. But you would absolutely be leaching inorganic nitrates into the ecosystem etc.

I give my in ground plants mineralized water straight out the hose from the well that smells like eggs lol. I dont bother with PH or anything like that with healthy organic rich soils outdoors in ground. Mid season i may have to throw some soil acidifier down becasue the well is quit alkaline, like 8ph, but usually only once right before flower.

And if in containers, well youre not going to be leaching any nitrates or anything into the environment anyway. Not in amounts that wont be fed on before it reaches the water table, thats for sure. The greenleaf would work fine, but nah, its not organic.
 
you are doing good, definitely didnt mean to imply otherwise.
Brother i know your style! if you had something to say about it you would have lol! Didn’t take it any other way than a senior member/experienced grower helping the newby out! ❤️✌️ I absolutely appreciate your input! 😍

Ok just so im on the same page as you : ) it WOULD be ok to feed a little mega 1 part to my outdoor potted plants? : )
 
Brother i know your style! if you had something to say about it you would have lol! Didn’t take it any other way than a senior member/experienced grower helping the newby out! ❤️✌️ I absolutely appreciate your input! 😍

Ok just so im on the same page as you : ) it WOULD be ok to feed a little mega 1 part to my outdoor potted plants? : )
yea should be fine. You will prob enjoy your results tbh. i put mega crop in the raised bed and the tomatoes went fuckin ape shit.

Was waiting for the blood and bone meal to become available while they established, did the trick perfectly fine.
 
yea should be fine. You will prob enjoy your results tbh. i put mega crop in the raised bed and the tomatoes went fuckin ape shit.

Was waiting for the blood and bone meal to become available while they established, did the trick perfectly fine.
Ok! Im totally watering with mega 1 part then🤣 thank you for clarifying! : )

hahahaha! thats awesome! super maters! ill mix a little batch and throw it in my tomatoes😆

thanks again man!
 
Man some real good info here. Was thinking of using mega crop 1 part to help bring my plants back from a flush.
Right!? : )

I just watered everything in with a mega 1 part and some cal-mag and a dose of some stuff i have that probably at this point wont make a difference but i figured it wouldn’t hurt to add it (natures brix) its a 002 but has a bunch of minerals and other stuff in it also.
 
i only bother with silica when i hav a plant that cant hold its buds, or a plant with exceptional resin content but lackluster trichome coverage (when messing with your own lineages you end up with crazy dank, potent phenos, that lack in the frost department more often then when they dont, these are usually my best quality flowers too lmao, not always tho obviously)

When ive run silica over super frosty sativas that were already potent, but kinda dry on resin content (you know, the kiefy sativas, thers many these days) all it did was make it even drier, and burn even hotter, and even more kiefy. It genuinely deminishd the quality of my maui86 pheno and some other sativas ive had over the years. On those plants the *only* benefit ive ever turned over is bag appeal. it even made the flowers noticably more difficult and tough to grind. No tangible, usable benefits whatsoever with her.

Banjo has wimpy ass stems, and CRAZY natural resin content though, silica supplementation improves the quality of her smoke, and the appearance both. As well as keeps me from having to tie her up for a few weeks longer into flower.

Silica just mkes my maui pheno dry and kiefy, and makes the trichomes reflect more light. It actually kinda destroys her smoke quality completely lol.

Silica is a double edged sword imho, and should only be applied with certain plants in certain contexts.

Outdoors in ground ive never actually noticed a single difference with or without additional silica. Was a totally non relevant factor all together. Probably because most soil is full of silica naturally. Is Prob *super* useful in an outdoor grow bag situation with most plants though but i dont do that kinda growing outdoors. In ground or bust on this side of the country imho.
In hydro I will never grow without silica again. From the day I started using it my plants are like night and day. Heat, light, bugs... they plough right though it. My current run is the best example yet. I don't think the temp inside the tent has gone below 85° for the last 3 days and that's including lights off. They've been eating over 800 ppm at 38 DLI with zero signs of stress and they're only 23 days old. Last week I noticed a few fungus gnats, gave them one spray of trifecta crop control and some cinnamon and haven't seen another since.

They seem so much stronger in every way on silica. Just my two cents 💚
 
🤔 not pictured is my little goofy temp sensor and that reads 82* with 68rh 🤦‍♂️
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the ACI sensor is about 6 inches higher in the room and closer to the AC. im not going to buy that there is that much temperature variation in my room from two feet apart with the fans i have going on and ac on. thinking i may need to calibrate the aci unit? I’ve never had that much variation before.
 
In hydro I will never grow without silica again. From the day I started using it my plants are like night and day. Heat, light, bugs... they plough right though it. My current run is the best example yet. I don't think the temp inside the tent has gone below 85° for the last 3 days and that's including lights off. They've been eating over 800 ppm at 38 DLI with zero signs of stress and they're only 23 days old. Last week I noticed a few fungus gnats, gave them one spray of trifecta crop control and some cinnamon and haven't seen another since.

They seem so much stronger in every way on silica. Just my two cents 💚
I used a lot more of it in DWC than anywhere else. And you got that crazy oven out back you're growing in. I would absolutely be keeping silica on hand for plants in there for several reasons lol

And it def does have lots of benefits for growing that translate Into negatives for consuming the end smoke with some plants though, even in DWC, even if the plants themselves are indeed easier to manage.

There's not many cons to silica from a growing cannabis perspective, if any at all lol, as for actual end quality, from a smokers perspective that is already familiar with all his clones though, same clone compared to same clone. Grown indoor, excess Silica has obvious and undeniable pros and cons both if compared same same clone with and without 100%. Just like everything else that exists, it has pros and cons both, there are absolutely trade offs.

Most pros are on the side of the growers of the plants. There are lots of pros for it looking at it that way. You will have less bug issues, assuming you aren't running preventative measures. It does indeed help plants take environmental extremes in stride a lot more smoothly too. It hugely strengthens stems, and all but completely removed the need for yoyos and cola ties in late flower, even from wimpy stemmed plants. It also definitely increases bag appeal for sure. There are absolutely 100% undeniable benefits to growing plants with excess supplemented silica.

But Most cons are on the side of the consumption of the flower. It's not a huge difference with most, but it does make trichomes shells thicker and stiffer and more numerous, and it makes them reflect more light so they stand out more too. But they will also fall off into kief a little easier. It doesn't seem to enhance resin content much if any though and an individual gram of straight kief from a same same clone usually burns hotter and won't hit quite as hard, while also producing a little bit less resin from the same weight of trichome. I do lots of hash washes, and dry sifts, pressing and BHO, i keep tabs on my resin yields pretty well.

As for pest and disease resistance I haven't even seen a mite or any bugs in my tents in ages. Even doing outdoor next to Indoor. I Ortho the house once a month and have never seen a single bug that wasn't a lost winter stink bug thats dead the next day in a tent since. Every bug that crosses that ortho line on the outside perimeter of the house is dead within a day whether it gets into the tent or not lol.

I'm also usually barefoot no shirt in basketball shorts when I'm out at the outdoor plants.

When I was running silica in DWC I started doing buckets with and without silica on the same clones because so many people were just racing about it like a be all end all kind of miracle nutrient.

My take is: I understand exactly why people feel that way about it, I genuinely do. But I also played with it enough with control clones and test clones in the same setups to come to some very solid conclusions about it.

Main conclusion being for indoor smoke, most of my clones produced smoke I preferred to smoke without it, even if I have to use yoyos or be religious about pest prevention. And outdoor, it changes absolutely nothing (where I live) because of the already bioavailable silica content in my natural soil here.

I definitely recommend most indoor growers play with it on their plants and see if they like using it. I do, but only in certain context personally.

The only clone i have i wouldn't run without Silica is Psychedelic Banjo, and thats because she has very wimpy stems, and a resin content off the damn charts no matter what you do. I have 13 distinct female clones atm. A plant i hav i wouldnt EVER hit with silica under any circumstances is my Maui86. When ya do, all the kief wants to fall off the buds because it spreads out her total resin content too much, shes an oldschool kiefy sativa dom as is. Silica completely destroys her smoking qualities. A grower running silica on everything would have never even noticed how good that clone actually is. Straight up. They'd assume it to be a dry, kiefy, flavorless sativa that burns to hot. It isnt though.


The journal owner's 1 part feed is already like 1-5% silica anyway i believe, id have to go look at my bag of it to quote % for sure, but i know 100% for sure silica is already in the green leaf 1 parts in levels that make a difference.
 
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