Growing for Tops Only, Second Grow

[Brian804]

Well, I've managed to chop, trim, and pull my plant into some sort of quasi-Christmas wreath-looking thing...

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My immediate concern is: have I created too many tops for a 4 gallon pot, because I'm not at all interested in trying to transplant this thing to a larger one. I know there's a give and take with growing for colas vs quality and potency of buds in the end, I just don't know how close (or over) that threshold I am.

It may be hard to tell from the pics but, I've taken off all the growth from the outside where the light is weaker, trying to make the plant focus its energy just on what is getting good, solid light.

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I have to flip soon (sometime in the next 10 to 12 inches) because I only have a 5' tall tent. I would have already flipped if it wasn't for the clones I'm trying to root before transplanting and moving them outside for the rest of the summer (along with the seedling in the corner).

My light is an inherited Vivosun VS1000, which is a little weaker than I'd like to be using, but right now that's what I'm working with due to finances. It's at 75 percent now, so hopefully bumping it up to 100 percent during flower will be okay.

So, whatcha guys/gals think? Am I pushing the limits? Might be okay? Too many tops for that size pot?

Bonus pics of the auto I'm running in the other corner. Right now I plan to just keep it in the tent when I flip the photo to flower, unless the general consensus is it would be better to move it outside and just have the flowering plant in there by itself.

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I was kinda flying by the seat of my pants with all this. I didn't plan anything out very well, which is probably obvious to some of you. So, I don't know how old any of these are or anything like that.

For those that are interested, though, the main plant is a Jean O's Genetics Devil's Lettuce, the auto is a SOFEM Blood Temple Kush, and the seedling is a SOFEM Hindu Lights auto. I've grown a couple Jean O's autos that I was less than impressed with, but I bought the Devil's Lettuce seeds at the same time so, hopefully their photoperiod genetics fare better than their auto genetics. Never grown anything from SOFEM before but so far I'm liking its structure at least, and she looks pretty damn healthy to me so, I'm encouraged by that heading into flower in the next little bit.

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[Brian804]

Thought I mentioned it but apparently not, there are 12 tops there

 

[Budtirement]

Wonderful training. I'll bet you enjoyed doing that. I wish you could transplant into a 10 gallon pot. I'm imagining the 3-D Christmas wreath. The 12 buds of Christmas.
Okay, here's my idea. Is it possible to mainline a plant so it spells out a word or forms some image at this stage? I think a contest might be in order. Mainlining a plant to spell out the longest word? Like the Scrabble of cannabis mainlining? Wow, that was a good joint.

 

[JarJar]

You may be able to cut the bottom of the pot using a sharp tool then transplant into a wider pot while the bottomless pot is still on, then make some cuts to what's left of the pot to remove it from within the bigger pot, add dirt to fill.

Dunno if that's helpful but figured I'd tell ya

 

[Billymgb]

That sounds like a good idea.

 

[Beachbumm]

Pot size is fine.

 

[Sunin]

just flip :D will be alright

 

[Brian804]

Wonderful training. I'll bet you enjoyed doing that. I wish you could transplant into a 10 gallon pot. I'm imagining the 3-D Christmas wreath. The 12 buds of Christmas.
Okay, here's my idea. Is it possible to mainline a plant so it spells out a word or forms some image at this stage? I think a contest might be in order. Mainlining a plant to spell out the longest word? Like the Scrabble of cannabis mainlining? Wow, that was a good joint.

Thanks! Been enjoying every minute of it for sure. Perhaps I'll try and time another one like this for late December and decorate it proper Christmas-like.

You may be able to cut the bottom of the pot using a sharp tool then transplant into a wider pot while the bottomless pot is still on, then make some cuts to what's left of the pot to remove it from within the bigger pot, add dirt to fill.

Dunno if that's helpful but figured I'd tell ya

That's a fantastic idea, don't know why but I feel like I never would have thought of doing that. That definitely makes the thought of transplanting a larger plant much less daunting. If I wasn't feeling like I'm pushing the limits of my tent size and my light, that's for sure how I'd go about transplanting this thing. I'll have to keep that in mind for the future for sure.

Pot size is fine.

Roger, Dodger. Thanks

just flip :D will be alright

Ride or die

 

[Galgrows]

I've run autos an photos during the flip with photos but.........my autos were already deep into flower not still young like yours. Will hurt yield i think if you keep it in 12/12.

 

[Brian804]

I've run autos an photos during the flip with photos but.........my autos were already deep into flower not still young like yours. Will hurt yield i think if you keep it in 12/12.

Yeah, with my limited experience with autos I was kinda thinking it was going to start flowering itself right around the time I was ready to flip the photo, but I think you're right, it's young and not ready for whatever influence the shorter light cycle might have on it. Outside it will go when I flip. Thanks!

 

[Sunin]

18 for auto is my go. 6 hours of dark is decency

 

[Natep]

Flip it see what happens make adjustment next grow.

 

[Brian804]

Went through and thinned things out a little bit. I'm gonna let her readjust for a week or so while the auto and the seedling continue to harden off then flip. May be hard to tell, but I took 19 would-be bud-producing branches/nodes/shoots/whatever the correct term is off.

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[michigrown43.perrymi]

You may be able to cut the bottom of the pot using a sharp tool then transplant into a wider pot while the bottomless pot is still on, then make some cuts to what's left of the pot to remove it from within the bigger pot, add dirt to fill.

Dunno if that's helpful but figured I'd tell ya

I've done that cut put the bottom to up pot but i never cut my smaller pot off might have been easier if I did that part lol

 

[Brian804]

Well, I ended up getting nervous enough about pot size to transplant. Did as suggested and it was actually kind of a breeze to do, so, big thanks for that idea. Only thing I should have done that I didn't was to gently knead up the roots before covering it back up. At least I got some rooting powder on them. Live and learn, I guess.

Anyhow today marks the end of week three of flower.

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Supposed to have an 8-10 week flowering time, so, still a way for them cute little buds to grow up a bit. I hope.

Also, the auto I had planned to move outside when I flipped this to flower made its way back into the tent. Luckily, she didn't bring any bugs back in with her. After fighting for two weeks with god-awful, rainy, muggy, hot, humid weather I said the hell with it. I estimate it was already at least a week into flower by that time anyway. I figured I'd have better luck in the tent even though the lights are on 12/12 now vs. fighting the weather. Live and learn. I ordered a second tent to keep autos and photos separate.

Here they are side by side

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And then just her

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Question for you auto growers: What's your go-to pot size and shape?

 

[Brian804]

Going into week nine...

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Wasn't expecting purple, but I'll take it. They're hard as rocks.

 

[MellowRello]

Well, I've managed to chop, trim, and pull my plant into some sort of quasi-Christmas wreath-looking thing...

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My immediate concern is: have I created too many tops for a 4 gallon pot, because I'm not at all interested in trying to transplant this thing to a larger one. I know there's a give and take with growing for colas vs quality and potency of buds in the end, I just don't know how close (or over) that threshold I am.

It may be hard to tell from the pics but, I've taken off all the growth from the outside where the light is weaker, trying to make the plant focus its energy just on what is getting good, solid light.

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I have to flip soon (sometime in the next 10 to 12 inches) because I only have a 5' tall tent. I would have already flipped if it wasn't for the clones I'm trying to root before transplanting and moving them outside for the rest of the summer (along with the seedling in the corner).

My light is an inherited Vivosun VS1000, which is a little weaker than I'd like to be using, but right now that's what I'm working with due to finances. It's at 75 percent now, so hopefully bumping it up to 100 percent during flower will be okay.

So, whatcha guys/gals think? Am I pushing the limits? Might be okay? Too many tops for that size pot?

Bonus pics of the auto I'm running in the other corner. Right now I plan to just keep it in the tent when I flip the photo to flower, unless the general consensus is it would be better to move it outside and just have the flowering plant in there by itself.

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I was kinda flying by the seat of my pants with all this. I didn't plan anything out very well, which is probably obvious to some of you. So, I don't know how old any of these are or anything like that.

For those that are interested, though, the main plant is a Jean O's Genetics Devil's Lettuce, the auto is a SOFEM Blood Temple Kush, and the seedling is a SOFEM Hindu Lights auto. I've grown a couple Jean O's autos that I was less than impressed with, but I bought the Devil's Lettuce seeds at the same time so, hopefully their photoperiod genetics fare better than their auto genetics. Never grown anything from SOFEM before but so far I'm liking its structure at least, and she looks pretty damn healthy to me so, I'm encouraged by that heading into flower in the next little bit.

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Thought I mentioned it but apparently not, there are 12 tops there

The plant is going to grow less flower with so many tops, so the requirement of pot size is the same. There will be more top flowers but less over all mass, probably.
I'd be more concerned about how you can grow enough leaves to create enough energy, to grow all of those flowers in such a small circle. They need plenty of fan leaves for photosynthesis.
If you're growing with liquid nutes the pot size doesn't matter much anyway. If you're growing organic, 4 gallon pot is probably too small , two tops and up to 12 tops.

 

[Brian804]

The plant is going to grow less flower with so many tops, so the requirement of pot size is the same. There will be more top flowers but less over all mass, probably.
I'd be more concerned about how you can grow enough leaves to create enough energy, to grow all of those flowers in such a small circle. They need plenty of fan leaves for photosynthesis.
If you're growing with liquid nutes the pot size doesn't matter much anyway. If you're growing organic, 4 gallon pot is probably too small , two tops and up to 12 tops.

Things have worked out pretty well, I'd say, but thanks.

 

[organicbr016]

nice man!
flowers comming

 

[Galgrows]

Things have worked out pretty well, I'd say, but thanks.

Very pretty pheno. How'd the autos fair?