Guess Who Is Killing Us Off One By One

[chickenman]

Every 20 mins someone dies from this in the USA
And it will get worse

 

[GrowGod]

Every 15 mins someone dies from this in the USA
And it will get worse

Stupidity?

 

[chickenman]

Stupidity?

You got that right..
GO Trump???WTF???

 

[GrowGod]

:D

 

[chickenman]

Stupidity?

More like 15 in 15 minutes

 

[Oregon Grown]

Doctors? At this point yes go trump. I can't stomach the thought of Hillary. At least there is a chance he will care what the voters want. More importantly from my point of view the next Supreme Court judge needs to be pro 2nd amendment.

 

[chickenman]

78 people fatally overdose daily from opioids, oxy, etc...
One person every 20 mins. or so.

 

[jumpincactus]

Doctors? At this point yes go trump. I can't stomach the thought of Hillary. At least there is a chance he will care what the voters want. More importantly from my point of view the next Supreme Court judge needs to be pro 2nd amendment.

please do tell, why on gods green earth would you think a filthy rich billionaire gives 2 shits about the common man. Surely you jest.

This whole political campaign is a good indicator how broken our whole political process is. Remember what George Carlin said. It's a big club and we are NOT members.

Nothing infuriates me more than hearing someone say there are no real viable candidates and then vote for one schmuck because they dont like the way the other schmuck combs their hair.

Heres a suggestion folks, if you really dont think any of the candidates will work for We the People, then don't vote for any of them..... Simple......... Roll a fatty and hold on to you azz cause with the clowns we got lined up this season we are all in deep shit!!!

So tired of the " Bread n Circus" !!!

Bread and circuses
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about a concept in political satire. For other uses, see Bread and circuses (disambiguation).
"Bread and circuses" (or bread and games; from Latin: panem et circenses) is metonymic for a superficial means of appeasement. In the case of politics, the phrase is used to describe the generation of public approval, not through exemplary or excellent public service or public policy, but through diversion; distraction; or the mere satisfaction of the immediate, shallow requirements of a populace,[1] as an offered "palliative." Its originator, Juvenal, used the phrase to decry the selfishness of common people and their neglect of wider concerns.[2][3][4] The phrase also implies the erosion or ignorance of civic duty amongst the concerns of the commoner.

This phrase originates from Rome in Satire X of the Roman satirical poet Juvenal (circa A.D. 100). In context, the Latinpanem et circenses (bread and circuses) identifies the only remaining cares of a Roman populace which no longer cares for its historical birthright of political involvement. Here Juvenal displays his contempt for the declining heroism of contemporary Romans.[5] Roman politicians passed laws in 140 B.C. to keep the votes of poorer citizens, by introducing a grain dole: giving out cheap food and entertainment, "bread and circuses", became the most effective way to rise to power.

 

[Ned Kelly]

Ya i think were all aware of the conundrum facing canna . Big pharama cant patent it so the money needed to reasearch all the benefits cannabis has to offer is wanting . As legalisation continues so will the main stream start shiffting to a less harmful pain management herb . Allso we should see in the future smaller morally correct individuals/companys exploring these areas . Let big corp have there way = rapid tech improvements but no rights for little growers or let the little growers grow to be big = better conditions for all but slower progression .

 

[Oregon Grown]

@jumpincactus how does not voting help? The way I see it is you need to try and find any difference you can between the candidates and see how those differences align with your own beliefs and make a choice. For me that is their stance on gun control. Most likely he's not going to care what voters think which is why I say maybe but by the GOP opposition to him it seems clear they don't think he cares what they want either. At least he's not a career politician who owes his allegiance to the party for getting him there. If you make no choice you really have no right to be unhappy about the outcome. Whatever the end result hopefully the GOP opposition to their candidate will open the eyes of some of the people who don't believe both parties are owned by the same money.

 

[kolah]

Jumpingcactus nailing it as always.

 

[Savage Henry]

"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."

-Mark Twain

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

Ya i think were all aware of the conundrum facing canna . Big pharama cant patent it so the money needed to reasearch all the benefits cannabis has to offer is wanting . As legalisation continues so will the main stream start shiffting to a less harmful pain management herb . Allso we should see in the future smaller morally correct individuals/companys exploring these areas . Let big corp have there way = rapid tech improvements but no rights for little growers or let the little growers grow to be big = better conditions for all but slower progression .

Big pharma can patent, and the drug can't be studied at any level unless it's rescheduled. The way it is now, there is no recognized medical benefits, therefore no studies can take place. Look at how much hypocrisy is going on.
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
US 6630507 B1
Abstract
Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention.

Yet, schedule 1 drugs are defined as:
Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote.

It would be nice if our elected officials could explain this, and the view through my rose colored glasses is good today.

 

[fishwhistle]

Did you know Big Pharma is one the largest contributors to Hilarys campaign?Guess how she intends to pay them back?You know what they are scared of more than anything right now?Thats right,Marijuana.
The whole political thing is a shit sandwich,Always has been.
Back on topic Cman is right opiods are killing more people than most beleive and drug companies are killing it off of killing people.
This is why drug companies are so scared,imagine this kind of profit.

''Did you ever wonder how much it costs a drug company for the active
ingredient in prescription medications? Some people think it must cost
a lot, since many drugs sell for more than $2.00 per tablet. We did a
search of offshore chemical synthesizers that supply the active
ingredients found in drugs approved by the FDA. As we have revealed in
past issues of Life Extension, a significant percentage of drugs sold
in the United States contain active ingredients made in other
countries. In our independent investigation of how much profit drug
companies really make, we obtained the actual price of active
ingredients used in some of the most popular drugs sold in America .
The data below speaks for itself.

Celebrex: 100 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $130.27
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.60
Percent markup: 21,712%

Claritin: 10 mg
Consumer Price (100 tablets): $215.17
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.71
Percent markup: 30,306%

Keflex: 250 mg
Consumer Price (100 tablets): $157.39
Cost of general active ingredients: $1.88
Percent markup: 8,372%

Lipitor:20 mg
Consumer Price (100 tablets): $272.37
Cost of general active ingredients: $5.80
Percent markup: 4,696%

Norvasc:10 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $188.29
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.14
Percent markup: 134,493%

Paxil: 20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $220.27
Cost of general active ingredients: $7.60
Percent markup: 2,898%

Prevacid:30 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $44.77
Cost of general active ingredients: $1.01
Percent markup: 34,136%

Prilosec:20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $360.97
Cost of general active ingredients $0.52
Percent markup: 69,417%

Prozac:20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets) : $247.47
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.11
Percent markup: 224,973%

Tenormin:50 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $104.47
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.13
Percent markup: 80,362%

Vasotec: 10 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $102.37
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.20
Percent markup: 51,185%

Xanax: 1 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets) : $136.79
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.024
Percent markup: 569,958%

Zestril:20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets) $89.89
Cost of general active ingredients $3.20
Percent markup: 2,809%

Zithromax:600 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $1,482.19
Cost of general active ingredients: $18.78
Percent markup: 7,892%

Zocor:40 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $350.27
Cost of general active ingredients: $8.63
Percent markup: 4,059%

Zoloft: 50 mg
Consumer price: $206.87
Cost of general active ingredients: $1.75
Percent markup: 11,821%

Since the cost of prescription drugs is so outrageous, I thought
everyone should know about this. Please read the following and pass it
on. It pays to shop around. This helps to solve the mystery as to why
they can afford to put a Walgreen's on every corner.On Monday night,
Steve Wilson, an investigative reporter for Channel 7 News in Detroit
, did a story on generic drug price gouging by pharmacies. He found in
his investigation, that some of these generic drugs were marked up as
much as 3,000% or more. Yes, that's not a typo: three thousand
percent! So often, we blame the drug companies for the high cost of
drugs, and usually rightfully so. But in this case, the fault clearly
lies with the pharmacies themselves.For example, if you had to buy a
prescription drug, and bought the name brand, you might pay $100 for
100 pills.

The pharmacist might tell you that if you get the generic equivalent,
they would only cost $80, making you think you are 'saving' $20. What
the pharmacist is not telling you is that those 100 generic pills may
have only cost him $10!

At the end of the report, one of the anchors asked Mr. Wilson whether,
or not there were any pharmacies that did not adhere to this practice,
and he said that Costco consistently charged little over their cost
for the generic drugs.

I went to the Costco site, where you can look up any drug, and get its
online price. It says that the in-store prices are consistent with the
online prices. I was appalled.Just to give you one example from my own
experience, I had to use the drug, Compazine, which helps prevent
nausea in chemo patients.

I used the generic equivalent, which cost $54.99 for 60 pills at CVS.
I checked the price at Costco, and I could have bought 100 pills for
$19.89. For 145 of my pain pills, I paid $72.57. I could have got 150
at Costco for $28.08.

I would like to mention, that although Costco is a 'membership' type store, you do NOT have to be a member to buy prescriptions there, as it is a federally regulated substance. You just tell them at the door that you wish to use the pharmacy, and they will let you in. (This is true)

This is true in Canada, too. I went there this past Thursday and asked them.

I am asking each of you to please help me by copying this letter, and passing it into your own e-mail, and send it to everyone you know with an e-mail address.

Sharon L. Davis
Budget Analyst
U.S. Department of Commerce''

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

I think that the cost of research and development of drugs has to be considered as well. The costs to bring a new drug to market are very high. I don't want to debate the merits of how the money is spent, but drug companies take risks with new drugs, and they spend a lot of money. I despise big pharma but I also have to acknowledge that medications save lives. Where would we be if we still had to worry about polio, smallpox, etc. I have a family member with Graves Disease, which affects metabolism and causes havoc to her thyroid, which had to be removed with radiation therapy. Now she has to take synthetic drugs to replace what her body is unable to do. I can't ignore that. The costs of testing drugs that end up being dangerous or not working on humans also affects the cost of meds.

But there's also this:
-Animal experiments failed to predict the kidney toxicity of the general anesthetic methoxyflurane. Many people lost all kidney function.
-Flosint, an arthritis medication, was tested on rats, monkeys and dogs; all tolerated the medication well. In humans, however it caused deaths.
-Zelmid, an antidepressant, was tested on rats and dogs without incident. It caused severe neurological problems in humans.
-Nomifensine, another antidepressant, was linked to kidney and liver failure, anemia, and death in humans. Animal testing had given it a clean, side effect-free bill of health.
-Amrinone, a medication used for heart failure, was tested on numerous animals and was released without trepidation. Humans developed thrombocytopenia, a lack of the type of blood cells that are needed for clotting.

I don't think a chain email that shows the cost of ingredients is a fair or accurate way to compare costs or to show 'markups'. Buying drugs at Costco is the best piece of advice that I see, but I think it's oversimplifying things to only look at the cost of ingredients. There is a hell of a lot more that goes into the costs of drugs other than the cost of their active ingredient.

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

snopes:
As the popularity of this
e-mail attests, the fact that one can find a wide disparity in drug prices from one pharmacy to the next was apparently surprising news to many people. And there's probably some truth to the notion that because we tend to view generic drugs as great "money-saving" alternatives to brand drugs, we often don't consider that the mark-up on generics can vary widely from one retailer to the next.

The basic facts laid out in the message quoted above are true. Steve Wilson, a reporter with WXYZ-TV in Detroit, conducted an investigative study into the cost of generic drugs at various pharmacies and other retail drug outlets and found quite a disparity between the highest and lowest prices

charged for certain generic drugs. For example, the Prescription Drug Price Comparison Chart available in conjunction with Wilson's report shows that a one-month supply of Fluoxetine HCL (the generic for Prozac), which wholesales for $1.48, varied in retail price from a high of $92.24 to a low of $9.69 just within the Detroit area.

Comparison shopping applies to generic drugs just as much as it does to food, clothing, DVDs, automobiles, or any other product. Those willing to do some hunting around get the best prices, and many drug comparison sites are available on the web to help consumers compare the costs of various drugs at different retail outlets before submitting their prescriptions (although medical insurance or HMO restrictions may limit which pharmacies a covered patient can use). Price differences between pharmacies can't necessarily be chalked up to nothing more than mere greed, however — some pharmacies offer additional levels of service (such as staying open 24 hours a day) and have to recoup the costs of those additional services by charging higher prices.

Although we can't guarantee that Costco always has the lowest prices on generic drugs, it is generally true that their pharmacy will fill prescriptions for non-members (but be prepared to pay by cash or ATM card rather than check).

Later versions of this message had the following table added to the beginning:
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BIG RIP-OFF

The Cost of Prescription Drugs

Did you ever wonder how much it costs a drug company for the active ingredient in prescription medications? Some people think it must cost a lot, since many drugs sell for more than $2.00 per tablet. We did a search of offshore chemical synthesizers that supply the active ingredients found in drugs approved by the FDA. As we have revealed in past issues of Life Extension, a significant percentage of drugs sold in the United States contain active ingredients made in other countries.

In our independent investigation of how much profit drug companies really make, we obtained the actual price of active ingredients used in some of the most popular drugs sold in America. The chart below speaks for itself.

Brand Name
of Drug Consumer Price/100 tabs Cost of General
Active Ingredients Percent Markup

Celebrex 100 mg $130.27 $0.60 21,712%
Claritin 10 mg $215.17 $0.71 30,306%
Keflex 250 mg $157.39 $1.88 8,372%
Lipitor 20 mg $272.37 $5.80 4,696%
Norvasc 10 mg $188.29 $0.14 134,493%
Paxil 20 mg $220.27 $7.60 2,898%
Prevacid 30 mg $44.77 $1.01 34,136%
Prilosec 20 mg $360.97 $0.52 69,417%
Prozac 20 mg $247.47 $0.11 224,973%
Tenormin 50 mg $104.47 $0.13 80,362%
Vasotec 10 mg $102.37 $0.20 51,185%
Xanax 1mg $136.79 $0.024 569,958%
Zestril 20 mg $89.89 $3.20 2,809%
Zithromax 600mg $1,482.19 $18.78 7,892%
Zocor 40mg $350.27 $8.63 4,059%
Zoloft 50mg $206.87 $1.75 11,821%
-----------------------------------------

[Important]
This chart is of dubious accuracy and has little relevance (other than an inflammatory one), as far more goes into the retail pricing of drugs than the raw cost of their active ingredients. Pharmaceutical companies expend money on the research and development costs of creating the drugs, plus the overhead costs of manufacturing, marketing, and shipping them; as well, pharmacies must sell drugs for more than their wholesale prices in order to cover the overhead costs of store operations (including pharmacists' salaries).

I do agree with Chickenman (I forget who posted that pic/caption) in that not taking prescriptions and having a homeopathic doctor would be ideal, but that's not always an option.

 

[jumpincactus]

@jumpincactus how does not voting help? The way I see it is you need to try and find any difference you can between the candidates and see how those differences align with your own beliefs and make a choice. For me that is their stance on gun control. Most likely he's not going to care what voters think which is why I say maybe but by the GOP opposition to him it seems clear they don't think he cares what they want either. At least he's not a career politician who owes his allegiance to the party for getting him there. If you make no choice you really have no right to be unhappy about the outcome. Whatever the end result hopefully the GOP opposition to their candidate will open the eyes of some of the people who don't believe both parties are owned by the same money.

Very simple........ I learned a long time ago my vote does not matter. IMHO the electoral college is the deciding factor...... Why would I vote this round if non of the candidates align with my beliefs....Are you satn that because to do so cause it's my civic duty. NOT>>>>>> They are all clowns..... I hear what your sayin and this is the kicker, Ive been hearing this stuff for 50 years and still the situation in DC gets worse and more decrepit. I have watched the assault on the middle class and we are just about erased if things continue. The entire power structure from the Executive Branch on down is tainted with lust for power and greed. To make matters worse, just voicing my thoughts and opinions like I just did can get me on a domestic terrorist watch list. Those in the ivory towers hate the fact they have to work around our Constitution. My name is jumpincactus and I endorse this statement.:smoking:

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

Very simple........ I learned a long time ago my vote does not matter. IMHO the electoral college is the deciding factor...... Why would I vote this round if non of the candidates align with my beliefs....Are you satn that because to do so cause it's my civic duty. NOT>>>>>> They are all clowns..... I hear what your sayin and this is the kicker, Ive been hearing this stuff for 50 years and still the situation in DC gets worse and more decrepit. I have watched the assault on the middle class and we are just about erased if things continue. The entire power structure from the Executive Branch on down is tainted with lust for power and greed. To make matters worse, just voicing my thoughts and opinions like I just did can get me on a domestic terrorist watch list. Those in the ivory towers hate the fact they have to work around our Constitution. My name is jumpincactus and I endorse this statement.:smoking:

Don't look behind you. Keep an eye out for the chemtrails. And the chupacabra

 

[jumpincactus]

Don't look behind you. Keep an eye out for the chemtrails. And the chupacabra

Dude really,,,,,,,,,,, For starters I dont believe in chemtrails. Brujo's Bruja's or fantasy chupacabra's :cool:

Never have, never will, at least until till I see concrete proof which frankly I don't believe will ever come. It isactually easy to debunk most CT's so I am not too much into that whole movement I only believe in half of what I see and nothing of what I hear, until I can verify what I heard......

However, I am a little affronted by your innuendo that I wear a tinfoil hat or am a conspiracy theorist. At least thats the smell I was getting. My views and opinions have been formed over 60 yrs of staying in touch with the world around me. And get this, paying attention. :speechless: My opinion of the term CT's is based on the fact that once you call someone that because there are some real wacko's out there with the tinfoil, calling someone or inferring that puts a question mark over their head and what happens then is even if they had some valid stuff to look at they are overlooked or not listened to. It's a clever form of character assassination.

I will not get going on this as it is clear to me your mind is closed to anything you were taught in your school books or watched on main stream news. :p

 

[chickenman]