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[failure to comply with fake-seed selling wishes...]What are the charges, failure to comply with fake-seed selling wishes of the Dea/Bayer/Monsanto/MiracleGro/General Hydroponics/Hortafarm/GWPharma?
Yes I always look at the bigger brushes and the picture that been painted for me. Real breeders, watch your asses. They coming for you
Did customs just happen to find rezdog's seeds, or did someone tip off the feds?People don't realise the importance of this.
I'm not going to say too much, but this could see a lot of American seed breeders go to jail.
The US DEA may not even have Gypsy Nirvana as their main target, their main target may be to shut down the online selling of seeds, and they see Gypsy as a way to accomplish that.
Icmag shut down discussion of this after a short while.
But what is interesting is that Gypsy said he thinks the whole thing started with a "Mother", as he referred to her as, who was a member of icmag at the time, and she got busted growing and LE threatened to take her kid unless she rolled, so she rolled and she shopped Rezdog, who shopped Dutchgrown and some others, and they rolled and shopped Gypsy.
I have suspicions who this "Mother" is that Gypsy is referring to, but I can't say anything without proof.
So it didn't start with customs finding Rezdog's seeds he was sending to the UK, and I never believed it did.
I mean there are two things in relation to that, and the first is that customs don't have enough resources to check everything that comes into the country, let alone also check what people are sending overseas.
And the second is that, would Rezdog mail illegal drugs overseas with his name and address on the back?
I don't think so.
It's called parrallel construction, where LE hides the fact that their bust is a result of an investigation, and to hide the identity of people who have rolled.
A classic case is where LE arranges for a "random" car stop, and just happens to find drugs in the car.
So Rezdog was under surveillance for a while, and LE knew he was going to post the drugs to the UK, so they just happened to arrange for a random finding of them, giving them a way of hiding the woman who shopped him.
Shit is going to go down, and unless you live in a legal state, then I advise don't post grow pics or anything incriminating on any site, especially icmag.
Respectfully, I don't think you fully understand what a plea agreement is, or what they entail, because there are no discounts. A defendant might make a deal to plead guilty to lesser charges in return for testifying. Gypsy would plea his case, say he's guilty of a lesser charge, which takes more serious charges off the table, but the penalty or sentence isn't discounted. Care to clarify? This is where the term 'throw the book at' comes from. I guess I'm picking nits. I think you might be confusing a confidential informant and their testimony which might be sealed, but plea deals for federal charges aren't sealed automatically, and they wouldn't be for a pot case, especially with El Jeffe at the helm of the AG's office. The original charges, as well as the evidence behind them, doesn't automatically go away, which is why I'm wondering why this thread is the only one around like it. Curious I guess."Did customs just happen to find rezdog's seeds, or did someone tip off the feds?
All I know is I'm buying front row tickets."
I think LE had him under surveillance, and knew he was about to send a package of seeds, and tipped off customs.
I mean, ok, so if they found the seeds, how would they trace them back to Rezdog?
He would have to have his return address on the package, and I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to do that.
The only other way is they found his fingerprints on the package.
I would say Gypsy Nirvana would plead guilty anyway, I mean I think they probably have him cold.
And don't forget, you get a sizeable discount off your sentence if you plead guilty.
So I think it's unlikely that the truth will come out in court, as if he pleads guilty then the one's that rolled wont be giving evidence.
It seems that these one's in Maine that got busted all knew each others business, which is not a good way to roll if you are growing somewhere it's illegal, so they were able to shop each other, and then shop Gypsy Nirvana.
Let me inject my opinion here. To me a real breeder is the opposite of the average pollen chucker, even tho real breeders chuck pollen as well. Anyone can make S1' crosses, that doesnt truly fit the true breeder bill.[failure to comply with fake-seed selling wishes...]
Your post implies conspiracy not relating to gypsy, which has its place, just wrong thread maybe. You'd get a reply in a relevant thread such as the bayer/monsanto or gmo or etc. Welcome to the farm.
How do you define 'real breeder'?
People pay for the possibilities of the f1 generation now. Which is fine if that's what your expecting. But let's not derail
Any possibilities the other two in the indictment are just Rez and Dutch
What's the point in leaving gyspy in the PI for 2 years and allowing him to step off a plane in the uk and just go home.
It would be some shit if the govt arrested a bunch of people with GN fund beans
Any Silk Road ties ? Mongoose could use a deal these days I'm sure
No, don't forget they have already been charged and done their jail time and are out.
They can't charge them again for a crime they have already been convicted of and served the sentence for.
There is a guy over on mpg who has got hold of a copy of the indictment from the US PACER, (online court records system) and he says it says that the DEA has been after Gypsy since 2004.
When did he start Seedsdirect? Was it about then or earlier?
I think icmag started in 2004.
I would say the other two would be seedboutique employees and maybe the administrator of icmag, Skip.
But yeah, apparently this is not a recent thing, it didn't start with Rezdog getting busted and snitching, they have apparently, according to what the indictment is supposed to say, been after Gypsy and his accomplices named in the indictment since way before that, since 2004 or earlier.
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