Harvest Colors Or Problems Please Help!!

[jumpincactus]

@jumpincactus To be honest, mysterious. We have just a few girls in the ground and they have not yet started to flower... We have had some issues with the water table effecting the well, but I wouldn't think it would be that massive of a result. No worries, we aren't banking on them at all, though I did want to pollenate them with our shorter shit stinking Hindu Kush male...
Yourself?

Doin well brother. I cant complain. Every day the Creator allows me to be upright and suckin air is a Good Day.

 

[jumpincactus]

i was speaking of general indoor growers like your self that one picture i posted was right after first frost so of course there is going to be some color and damaged leafs
what i was referring to was for instance teas what good are teas when your organic perentage in soil has been depeleted this is what were are really seeing today in most peoples grows hence the tea craze
TBH tea;s are a activator but when there is not enough organic in soil what happens ??? the remaning N gets used up by the microbes , and they start dieing off teas in essence feed plants at this stage
soils are depeleted
That is the reason why so many people are in search of that perfect soil recipe that will take a plant from may to Nov with out adding anything other then water , And where many fail
Please do not seperate salts as to organic or chemical grown because
You are aware manures do create salt build up in soil pending on there age fresh manure with high N levels tend to have the highest salt content i know i spread hundreds of tons yearly on the farm :)  mulches are used to help reduce the salt build up in organic soils legumes for instance have a lower salt index but Salt is salt lets not forget that right ..
salts are a natural event although chemical salts are more harmful and take years to correct trust me i grow both ways.
Cover crops are used to slow down the leaching process and help dilute the salt concentrations that contrary to popular belief are naturally formed in organic soils
so where does it all end right
I have messed with soils pretty much all my life
I am not here to change your views on how you decide to grow its all about having fun and reaping the rewards right
here some no till garden pics i really like this huge tomato plant in 300 gallons of no till as well as other veggies and my pride in joy i been planting here for some time with great results only adding fresh compost and top soil early and re planting 100 percent naturally grown plant and walk away
only thing i am doing to this mj plant has been bending her over to keep her below 8 feet height

Nice garden you have there.!!

 

[Purpletrain]

Nice garden you have there.!!

ty sir Paul i take it your in the UK ???  well if you are is going to be few weeks before you see natural bloom stage your around 16 hrs of light still i suggest you light dep your going to run out of weather before there even close to being done
my self i plan on doing some work on my out door girl have some in green house light depped already but plans are to crop and fim my out door girl she is about 2 weeks before full transition into flower i'll continue to crop to keep streching in control


 

[MasterDsKush]

Do you guys think it's time to flush?

 

[DemonTrich]

Did you pee or poop? Why do you think you need to flush? Not trying to get into a flush don't flush debate, but. If you aren't a heavy feeder, slam your girls with pgrs, insecticides, ect, why?

 

[Purpletrain]

Did you pee or poop? Why do you think you need to flush? Not trying to get into a flush don't flush debate, but. If you aren't a heavy feeder, slam your girls with pgrs, insecticides, ect, why?

because that is what everyone says to do lol Which reminds i need to head out and flush the fields soon if that makes sense

 

[DemonTrich]

I used to flush when I started out. Been using same soil, same nutes for 4+yrs, and 3 same patients over 16 strains in this time. Myself nor anyone else could not tell a difference in flushed vs non. I do a water only as needed last 2 weeks. I like to let the plant consume all stored nutes in the fans before chopping.

 

[MasterDsKush]

No I was saying do you think it's time to start flushing because they way my plants look...

 

[Seamaiden]

And yea verbose I do tend to rattle on sometimes. :)

Just wait til we share our first joint. You'll be sitting there wondering, "Who the fuck stuck a nickle in Sea?"

 

[Seamaiden]

salts are a natural event although chemical salts are more harmful and take years to correct trust me i grow both ways.
Cover crops are used to slow down the leaching process and help dilute the salt concentrations that contrary to popular belief are naturally formed in organic soils

Where are the salts coming from in this scenario? The only one I can think of is NO3 from rainfall, and that is highly mobile through most soils.

 

[MasterDsKush]

Where are the salts coming from in this scenario? The only one I can think of is NO3 from rainfall, and that is highly mobile through most soils.

Hey sea maiden by those pics do you think it's time to flush? Or you really don't flush? I'm just confused on what to do the last 2 weeks

 

[Seamaiden]

I don't recall how you said you've been feeding them, or if you even did. But looking back at them it looks like they're still popping new white pistils, and if that's the case, I wouldn't start flushing just yet. Keep in mind, I don't flush in any event, but then even if I am using salt-based ferts I go very low, so there's nothing in there *to* be flushed out of the soil.

If you're not certain, try giving one of them a few sugar feeds and see if they stop throwing white pistils. 1tsp of whatever kind of sugar you want to use. Keep in mind that if you've got a microbial population in the soil, those microbes will eat the sugars, thus 'fixing' (mineralizing) the N present, and making it unavailable to the plant. But, once they shit and/or die, that N is again available to the plant and it'll put it to use. Two weeks is the approximate time frame for that in my experience.

But! If you see lots of new white pistils then I say they're still flowering and treat them in an appropriate manner.

 

[MasterDsKush]

I don't recall how you said you've been feeding them, or if you even did. But looking back at them it looks like they're still popping new white pistils, and if that's the case, I wouldn't start flushing just yet. Keep in mind, I don't flush in any event, but then even if I am using salt-based ferts I go very low, so there's nothing in there *to* be flushed out of the soil.

If you're not certain, try giving one of them a few sugar feeds and see if they stop throwing white pistils. 1tsp of whatever kind of sugar you want to use. Keep in mind that if you've got a microbial population in the soil, those microbes will eat the sugars, thus 'fixing' (mineralizing) the N present, and making it unavailable to the plant. But, once they shit and/or die, that N is again available to the plant and it'll put it to use. Two weeks is the approximate time frame for that in my experience.

But! If you see lots of new white pistils then I say they're still flowering and treat them in an appropriate manner.

I use bio bizz nutes top max, bio bloom, and bio heaven

 

[jumpincactus]

Just wait til we share our first joint. You'll be sitting there wondering, "Who the fuck stuck a nickle in Sea?"

LOL you gurl are a frikkn riot. I read that after some motorbreath and almost fell outta my chair.

Hey gurl @Seamaiden no nickles here, your worth a hell of a lot more just for the knowledge base. Tell the old man I said hey and miss him coming around.

So pray tell when will that sesh take place? Would love to meet you and the hubby. :D Much love and peace.

 

[MasterDsKush]

Hey guys do I start flush (or instead of flush just use water for last 2 weeks when trics get clear? Or just milky? Here is some nug shots

 

[Seamaiden]

Thanks for those pix. I'd say she's a-done. If you 'need' to flush, start flushing her now.

LOL you gurl are a frikkn riot. I read that after some motorbreath and almost fell outta my chair.

Hey gurl @Seamaiden no nickles here, your worth a hell of a lot more just for the knowledge base. Tell the old man I said hey and miss him coming around.

So pray tell when will that sesh take place? Would love to meet you and the hubby. :D Much love and peace.

If I can get it done, before the end of the year. :)

 

[jumpincactus]

Thanks for those pix. I'd say she's a-done. If you 'need' to flush, start flushing her now.

If I can get it done, before the end of the year. :)

That in my mind would be epic. I have some latitude with time travel as I draw closer to retirement. You give the word and me and my better half Kat would love to hang with you a bit. We missed @chickenman for our proposed visit next week. Got a tweaker daughter that is causing all sorts of chaos so we had to cancel. It would be nice to set up a trip early summer next year and see Dave n yourself and knock out @chickenman in a loop road trip. Much love @Seamaiden So it go like this, start with you n Dave, hit up the keeper of thunda @thunderfudge and then swoop on the
@chickenman on our way back to AZ. Peace out Farmers!!!

 

[Seamaiden]

Sorry about your daughter, addiction is always a messy business.

 

[jumpincactus]

Sorry about your daughter, addiction is always a messy business.

Indeed, brings me to tears everytime I think about it. I am no stranger to addiction or the recovery process. The hardest part is realising I am powerless over her and her behavior and not until she is sick and tired of being sick and tired will she make the change.

My concern really is for my 4 yr old grandbaby Sophia being drug thru the mess.

If I may vent a bit, my daughter just informed us she is going to move in with a dude she dated 20 years ago, fokker lives in Conn right outside Bridgeport. If you all are familar with this area it is crack town central. Miserable part of the country. No jobs lots of crime, drugs of her choice and did I mention she is leaving a decent job here as well.

She is leaving a current job and going to a city that unemployment rate is currently 11% she hasnt seen this dude in 20 yrs and upon my background check on him he just finished up a 14 year run in AZ DOC and did an interstate compact and moved to Conn he is on parole for another 1-1/2. The last 3 convicts she hooked up with abused her and kept her sprung. Last dude almost killed her.

She flipped out on me when I suggested she leave Sophia with me. I told her that if she indeed was going to do this crazy shit she should leave the baby here so if things go sideways the kid will be safe. Told me that she had it under control, ya right!!!! I am at a total loss over what to do.

Insanity= Doin the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

 

[Seamaiden]

Oh God... I've had it difficult enough with my son, but he hasn't made any babies. I'm with you, leave Sophia with grandpa, who's stable and loving.

I know it's hard. I had to do it when I didn't have work and couldn't provide for my own children. My parents took the very best care of them anyone could.