harvesting healthy plants

Natural · Aug 12, 2013

Oregon Panda said:
Mobile nute in the leaves went into the calyxes. It explained why they look like that...

I dont flush, but I dont add soluble nutes at all. Even so, some strains finish fall colors anyway. I really think its strain specific.

The slow low temp dry is so important, then a nice 2 month cure in glass... Oh yeah.

So basically, what you are saying (so I can understand) is that you supp' the soil with nutrients that would only be available if the bacteria and fungi make it available by breaking the food down?..correct?
If so, which nutes for macros? guanos..blood/bone meal? and what of micros?

outwest · Aug 12, 2013

Quantum9 said:
I am also of the oppionion that "stressed" plants cannot produce the yeild or potancy of "optimal" ones.

Personally i think the myth began because so few people were able to grow healthy plants durring bloom that they decided it was a good thing.

All of the 4+ lb per light rooms i have run were healthy through harvest. The flavor is amazing as well, but then again we rarely break 200 ppms of nutes, so whats the point of a flush when your already in tap range?

Dig it! Flushing is for those that over feed. If you follow the label you're probably over feeding. Lots of growers have an ah ah moment when they realize they can cut PPMs significantly and keep their plants healthy.

I'm organic and don't flush, because it wouldn't do anything. My weed is tasty fresh and often complimented!

outwest

Oregon Panda · Aug 12, 2013

Bonemeal
Gypsum
Animal Compost
Kelp

Fermented and compost teas and a little bit of soluble humic. Molasses at the end.

So I do use some souluble additives, but not to the extent most would. I've hit with tea like once, humic once only on specific holes, and a fermented comfrey foliar on everything once. Nothing I feel like needs to be "flushed".

I have no plans to add anything else all the way to harvest except a bit of molasses at the end week just out of habit.

Not exactly the same situation... lol I gotta stop responding without knowing what section these threads are in. "Whats new" ha ha

Natural · Aug 12, 2013

thanks for confirming Panda...It's nice to have space to cook it all. I would think the shovel time would be pretty intense. I'm old enough to consider a concrete mixer might come in handy..lol.

Oregon Panda · Aug 12, 2013

Hell yeah. Gotta be in shape, unless your a panda... ;)

By some universal fluke, despite being a total nerd I only made friends with all the biggest guys in town. You'd be surprised what a bunch of tall bears can do in a few well coordinated hours.

Natural · Aug 12, 2013

I hear it's pristine farm country out there..not unlike the raw beauty of Arkansas.

ttystikk · Aug 12, 2013

'Raw beauty'... of Arkansas? I lived there for over three years- and nothing I saw there looked like 'raw' beauty... but then I grew up in Colorado, at the base of the craggy Rocky Mountains. I never saw anything in Arkansas that measures up to them, not in spectacle, not in stature- and certainly not 'rawness.'

I'm not ripping on the land. It is beautiful. On the other hand, don't ask me about the climate, the bugs-or most of the people!

Natural · Aug 12, 2013

ttystikk said:
'Raw beauty'... of Arkansas? I lived there for over three years- and nothing I saw there looked like 'raw' beauty... but then I grew up in Colorado, at the base of the craggy Rocky Mountains. I never saw anything in Arkansas that measures up to them, not in spectacle, not in stature- and certainly not 'rawness.'

I'm not ripping on the land. It is beautiful. On the other hand, don't ask me about the climate, the bugs-or most of the people!

hahaha...seriously I have a buddy down there that's always talking it up..lol. Maybe undeveloped would've been a better statement. So ttystikk is an old R Kansas hick?..lmao..jokes
Depends what you're used to I guess..and what you prefer. I'm sure they have some good clean fishing spots.

Quantum9 · Aug 12, 2013

This thread, which was dead since march, was some how turned to absolute garbage in a matter of hours.

Sorry We Solidarity.

ttystikk · Aug 12, 2013

Natural said:
hahaha...seriously I have a buddy down there that's always talking it up..lol. Maybe undeveloped would've been a better statement. So ttystikk is an old R Kansas hick?..lmao..jokes
Depends what you're used to I guess..and what you prefer. I'm sure they have some good clean fishing spots.

I knew plenty of people who lived there, loved it, and talked it up every chance they got. There are a lot of pepper who feel the same way about this whole country, too- and for the same reasons; they've never left to go see for themselves!

I followed a Chinese girlfriend down there to help out with her parents' Chinese restaurant, so I totally had my heart in the right place- but it was never, ever going to be home.

I'll see your clear fishing spot in ARrrrrrrrrKinSauw, and raise you a whole creek in the Rockies- and I know from experience which will taste better, too.

Colorado is home. I tried to deny it when I was younger, so I went and saw for myself. It really IS better here. I can defend that statement with any number of factoids and statistics, but that's not what matters. What matters is that feeling I get when I'm here... and I hope everyone else feels the same about their little corner of paradise... Even if it is governed by Jim Huckabee...?!

Oregon Panda · Aug 12, 2013

I think we have more of a "fresh" beauty in my neck of the woods. Anything east of the cascades is a desert wasteland. Shit doesnt get nice again till the Poconos.

Natural · Aug 12, 2013

Quantum9 said:
This thread, which was dead since march, was some how turned to absolute garbage in a matter of hours.

Sorry We Solidarity.

don't worry there's still time for woodsmaneh to apologize for misleading you..lmao

sorry we got off topic...to flush or not to flush i thought we started getting somewhere:rolleyes:

ttystikk · Aug 12, 2013

Quantum9 said:
This thread, which was dead since march, was some how turned to absolute garbage in a matter of hours.

Sorry We Solidarity.

I've had the experience of flushing for weeks, flushing for one week, flushing for a few days- and recently, not at all.

What tasted best to me was the flush for a few days. I too follow the logic of never overnuting or loading up on nutrients, as it always seemed like it was throwing things out of whack.

I flush with 2g/bask of table sugar and 2g/gal of Epsom salt. The sugar is there to keep the plant metabolism in the absence of base nutrients, and the Epsom is there to provide some EC to the water so the plant's osmotic balance isn't thrown out completely. Usually by this time, I'm seeing fall colors anyway.

Quantum, you have a point. Sorry for the thread Jack, and I have a question for you: just 2 weeks ago, I saw my ec fall to 1.1 in my rdwc, or 550ppm. My plants STARVED and stalled. How do you feed such a tiny amount and keep yours from doing the same? My climate parameters, in case it's relevant; air 80F, RH 71%, no CO² at the end, water temp 66F. I run Jacks nutrients with a few amendments.

Capulator · Aug 12, 2013

reloader said:
I always flush the last two weeks. It makes sense to me to flush out all the nutes that you have been adding the last 6 weeks. My plants never look starved for food, as I'm sure their is enough nutrient residue & traces left that, the plant will do fine for the last 2 weeks.
As for what the op said about flushing lowering your yield, is not true. Most marijuana plants have reached full size (or close) at 6 weeks, they need the last 2 weeks to finish getting fully ripe. Flushing or not would have nothing to do with size. Also yellowing is natural and can depend upon the strain & conditions. I get some plants that yellow out more then others, but they are still healthy & produce.

Brother the last two weeks you should be getting your swole on... The plants aren't growing any taller , but the flowers are getting bigger and the plant is 100% undergoing photosynthesis. For this process it needs light, water, and food.

Capulator · Aug 12, 2013

Quantum9 said:
This thread, which was dead since march, was some how turned to absolute garbage in a matter of hours.

Sorry We Solidarity.

LULZ.

We Solidarity · Aug 12, 2013

I've done a fair bit of trialing with flushes...I still think a flush beats the shit out of not flushing (at least in coco) in terms of flavor and potency. I have noticed a significant decrease in the flavors when a flush goes too long, and although the first hit or two is phenomenal without a flush, the rest of the bowl is absolute garbage.
I'm waiting on terpene profiles but labs show properly flushed buds testing around 2-3% higher in THC than the unflushed (after curing).

This is where I like to take my plants - leaves recieving the most light are spent but not dying, and the lowers/small sugar leaves are still very green.

I think a flush is only necessary with synthetic nutes/low CEC growing environments, and I don't think a flush should be taken to the point where leaves are dying. Organic soil you can harvest any time you want, but in my experience the best flavors come from plants that are just starting to undergo senescence.

Right now I'm stopping feed at 1.8 and flushing for 7 days in coco (running clear water through every day). After 5-7 days drying and two weeks curing there is flavor down to the last hit, and the ash burns to a clean white and can be blown out of the bowl when finished.

reloader · Aug 13, 2013

Capulator said:
Brother the last two weeks you should be getting your swole on... The plants aren't growing any taller , but the flowers are getting bigger and the plant is 100% undergoing photosynthesis. For this process it needs light, water, and food.

Agreed, I said they were close to full size, but I know they continue to swell & ripen. They will fatten up, but at 6 weeks you have a pretty good idea of what to expect.

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