SurfdOut said:

Dudes look nice, did you use both on the Ortega and GHash?

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Yep dusted both, the Ghash and the Ortega appear to have seeds forming....kinda stoked to see what the prodigy has to offer

SurfdOut said:

Did you pop that whole pak of Original D x AW?

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Yah... i popped all of what the Hawaiian sent me gave some seedlings to the boys in Waimanalo too, I need to give them a jingle and see what they needed up with.

SurfdOut said:

It is all about going with the flow, don't fight the universe. Puna logic.

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Amen Brother!

I gonna work the Afgooey x Purepurea for the next year, chasing the purple and mold resistance. I not gonna make seeds until the second run on clones. Gonna do a couple different 1 to 1 matings once I really know the plants.

Yeah, have you seen the Waimanalo boys plants yet?

Morning of the Earth.....

SurfdOut said:

Yeah, have you seen the Waimanalo boys plants yet?

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Yah some of the stuff they're testing for us, I don't think they have much going on up there,it's small kine stuff.

SurfdOut said:

Morning of the Earth.....
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Looks mighty vigorous in there ;-)

Lemonzinger nug - just noticed it was infested with root mealybugs.

Blue temple cola - still a way to go


Stretchy girl, does well in the rain but has mealybugs.

The Hawaiian said:

nice shots DB and Coots!! just testing out this new laptop, I decided to not buy MS office this go around and try some free word processing downloads. I used to use MS word to edit my pix, but no more. I gotta download a free picture editor to get the pixels down. ok here goes the firs try. it should be an 'Ono and my shaggy frost that is funking out.

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You should try OpenOffice or Libreoffice. Both are free and pretty good, I put them on all the computers at work instead of MSoffice when we upgraded our systems recently.
Nice fish!

cool brothers!!

I picked up a cheapy $250 laptop, and MS Office is like $140, so like 2/3 of cost of laptop. fucking ridiculous lol. I have used MS Office since 1990s but it is too much for me to pay now. I rather pick up a sack lol. I mostly need it for word processing anyway. I actually downloaded LibreOffice and it works well so far. fucking computers haha.

all shots taken are of my Mamma Frost. the shaggy one is the one I was able to use to keep the strain after my bout with spider mites. the big girl is funking out most likely because I didn't let her get back to full leaf set before I put her out. unfortunately the rest are kind of in the same boat. and this is because I had to put out Mamma Frost clones when all my seedlings turned male haha. on another note, my friend who originally gave me these frost seeds, and to whom I gave a pack of F/O Bx, said he got a stud he used to pollenate his shit. he saving some for me and I going pollenate some Frost with that shit :D aloha bruddahs!!

The Hawaiian said:

cool brothers!!

on another note, my friend who originally gave me these frost seeds, and to whom I gave a pack of F/O Bx, said he got a stud he used to pollenate his shit. he saving some for me and I going pollenate some Frost with that shit :D aloha bruddahs!!

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Smells like gem city! Can't wait to hear how everything turns out:cat:

Baby Angles Breath all females

Wittker Blues x c99 Mr Sket

Flo xAW

Copied from Ohsogreen. FYI.

Hello all.... Here is some info about proper seed storage, which I hope you find helpful.
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According to the National Seed Storage Lab at Ft. Collins, CO, seeds have three enemies: fresh air, moisture and heat.
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The NSSL advises the moisture content most optimal for long term seed storage is is 4-8%. These moisture levels can only be obtained by slow drying seeds, over the course of 10 to 14 days (in a controlled environment).
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Air drying, at room temp ( 72° F ), will only get you down to 12 - 20 % at best. At these moisture levels, freezing can harm seeds, because ice crystals can form inside them. If your seeds are only air dried at room temp, don't freeze them..
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If stored at room temperatures, seeds will last perhaps 2-3 years. For each 10° F the temperature is lowered, the seed life can double (but only if the moisture content of the seed is 8 % or slightly less).
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Here are the general timelines if the moisture content is proper, and they are stored in airtight containers (having a small desicant pack in with them is a smart move).

32° 50+ years

42° 25 years

52° 12 1/2 years

62° 6 years

72° 3 years

82° 1 year

90° and above-not recommended

(If your seeds are only air dried, at room temp, divide the times listed above by 2 to 2.5, to correct the average survivial / with very good germination rates (but do not freeze them).

When chosing a storage container, know that it is just as important as the moisture content & storage temp. The reason the storage container must be airtight is because fresh air carries moisture (which can lessen life, or cause false starts). It also carries oxygen, which will oxidize your seeds over time.
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Your airtight storage container needs to be made of a closed cell material, such as glass, tin, or mylar for best results. Most plastics don’t work, since they are an open celled material, which air can and will penetrate over time. These include tuperware, 35mm film canisters, disposable food containers, and zip lock bags.
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If you google airtight storage containers, you can find plastic ones made specifically for seed storage.
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So, if you're planning on storing some special seeds for later down the road, know what the enemies are and how to eliminate them.

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Common Question: What are the requirements for the controled enviroment to slow dry seeds?
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The requirements are basically clean, dry and not above room teimp.
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To acheive this you can :
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Place your seeds in a clean / new paper lunch sack, label it, and set it in a cool dry place (out of direct sun light) for several days.
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Next place it in a clean / sterilized ice chest (hot water, soap, vinegar or hydrogen peroxide (not bleach), with a small Eva Dry dehumidifier (they don't require electricity to work).
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Place the ice chest in an area out of direct sunlight, with a temp of 72 F or under (but above freezing), for eight days. During that eight days, (every two days) open, remove sack, shake lightly, and return promptly to the the ice chest. This will loosen any plant material still on the seeds, that you might have missed.
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The next step is to place them in the final stage dryer.
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You can make your own seed dryer from any of the items listed below, by cleaning / sterilizing them first (hot water, soap, vinegar or hydrogen peroxide (not bleach), then adding a small dehumidifier to it.
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Refrigerator - ** non functioning, but door gasket must be in good condition
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Old freezer - ** <- this is what I use.
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Large dishwasher **
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^^ the nice thing about all of these is, they are gasketed, have shelves, and can be had for free (curb score or recycling centers).
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Place your seeds in the bottom of a clean cardboard box, or a large paper sack (wear gloves to avoid moisture & oils from your hands getting on the seeds). Place your box or sack in your clean / sterilized, gasketed, drying box.
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Set the dehumidifier (*) to 70 % for two days, then drop the setting to 60 % for two days, and keep dropping it every two days, until you hit 20 %. Very few home models will dry the air to below 20 % humidity.
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(*) If your dehumidifier doesn't have a digital readout, no biggie, you can buy a cheap digital temp / humidity gauge to help you slowly drop down the humidity.
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After eight days, remove your seeds (wearing gloves), weight them on a scale, place them in small lots in your airtight containers, add silica desicant packs (twice the weight of the seeds you are storing), and seal your containers. Small silica desicant packs can be purchased at hobby shops, or from online packing / shipping businesses or coin dealers.
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Place the small airtight containers (either numbered or with abbrevated strain names written on them in permanent marker) into a tupperware container (just to keep them together & this gives you a place to put a sheet of paper listing what is in each numbered or abbrevated containers).
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I say small lots, because it makes more sense to have 20 seeds in 10 airtight containers than it does to have 200 seeds in just one.
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Most people only need to pull 10 to 20 seeds at a time, and you don't want to expose all of them to air / moisture, so small lots are the way to go.
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Then into the refrigerator.....
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Or you can dry them for several additional days, using a professional drying cabinet, or one using a modified home dehumidifier. Most home dehumidifiers can pull humidity down to 20 % in a 400 sq ft room (easily). Hhaving a tech friend modify the rheosta, to fool it, as to the actual R/H percentages, will get your unit to continue to work, below it's normal range. That way it draws down humidity into the 6 % to 12 % range. Best to verify temp & R/H using one of those digital combo thermometers.
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When I finally get down to under 12 % (8 % being the target), seeds quickly go into small / heavy (seal a meal) freezer storage bags (with paper I.D. tags), in go desicant packs, and these little oxygen absorbing packets (that Granger Supply carries). That way I get both R/H and Oxygen percentages down, and keep them down (contained). My bags get lightly vaccumed, sealed, then into (for the freezer) tupperware (also with dessicant packs & oxygen absorbing packs). Then the tupperware goes into a (seal a meal) freezer storage bag, vaccumed, sealed, and into the freezer (inside two cold paper sacks (you can get these at Wal-Mart in the Ice Cream Isle for free) <-keeps the storage packaging from freezing to the freezer shelves.....
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Doing it this way, is more professional, and guarantees a great germ rate, many years later.......
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Hope this helps someone....

SurfdOut said:

Morning of the Earth.....
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GH with a view! Love to bro, awesome photo.

Thanks Plasma, spend a lot of time in the biodome of love.

Here are some pics of the ones with Shrom in them.