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Head first into Hydroponics. A beginner's story.

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Yeah that was my concern initially, the time it would take to get the 35-45 gallons of water my system will hold. I think if I can make the space, I'll get a 50 gallon barrel and a seperate pump. My systems plumbing isn't something I want to mess with anymore. I just got it finished up today. Running a line to my bathroom isn't an issue. I just don't wanna mess with my complicated manifold I cobbled together. A seperate submersible and a hose would to the trick when the time comes.

On to the next hurdle, I guess. On a positive note, I "finished" my first RDWC project today and got the electrical roughed in. Looks like getting the RO set up will put me back a week or two but I'm creeping towards the end of setup and I'm getting antsy.
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Not sure if its too late, or perhaps you already did this, but I put my water and air pumps on a switched outlet w the switch right above my reservoir and it has been very handy for the small amount of trouble it was.
 
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Keep in mind that those RO filters take some time, you also need a waste line because the way they work they generate some waste water.
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So to get my RO, should I plumb in before the softener, or does it matter since it's getting filtered now? I ask because it would be so much easier to tap off my sink or toilet to feed the RO system. They're softened so I avoided that initially and ran a line across the house. If I could avoid the crawlspace again, that'd be sweet. If it's gonna significantly shorten the life of the filters running softened water through it, I'll just tap in to my original supply, instead.
 
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My understanding is RO after the water softner.
The soft water should lengthen the life of the RO membrane.
 
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My understanding is RO after the water softner.
The soft water should lengthen the life of the RO membrane.
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Awesome. That makes it all really easy. Tap on to my sink or toilet and call it good.
 
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Awesome. That makes it all really easy. Tap on to my sink or toilet and call it good.
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You might want to double check that.

Im of the opinion you want to "T" into the line before the softener
 
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From what I have learned, you never want to used softened water for a grow. I would assume as steamroller said that the RO system would filter out anything left behind by the softener, but I don't know that for sure.
 
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You might want to double check that.

Im of the opinion you want to "T" into the line before the softener
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From what I have learned, you never want to used softened water for a grow. I would assume as steamroller said that the RO system would filter out anything left behind by the softener, but I don't know that for sure.
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The rdwc is currently fed from before the softener, but the water quality is poor. We've been discussing whether or not to use softened water to feed the RO system. Is that what you guy's are saying? Don't even feed the RO with softened water?
 
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I just googled it to be sure.
 
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I just googled it to be sure.
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Ask about using it with cannabis

 
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Ask about using it with cannabis
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Right. We're not debating whether or not to use softened water for my grow. We're talking about whether or not you should soften the water feeding the RO. Softening the water before apparently extends the life of the membrane. Which sounds like a plus, right?

Is there something you can share that suggests the water shouldn't be softened before the RO? From what I can gather, one of the many things an RO system filters out is salts. Is there something I'm missing?
 
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Right. We're not debating whether or not to use softened water for my grow. We're talking about whether or not you should soften the water feeding the RO. Softening the water before apparently extends the life of the membrane. Which sounds like a plus, right?

Is there something you can share that suggests the water shouldn't be softened before the RO? From what I can gather, one of the many things an RO system filters out is salts. Is there something I'm missing?
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Got it now.

But why would you want to add a bag of salt, run 500 gal of RO water just to throw in another bag of salt.
 
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Is that what you guy's are saying? Don't even feed the RO with softened water?
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No, not what I am saying. Just don't use straight softened water in your grow. I thought steamroller was probably right that it would be fine after going through the RO system. If it saves on the RO membrane that's a plus, they are not cheap. I'm not likely to get a water softener here but I did not know that, so it's good to know about saving on the membrane.
 
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No, not what I am saying. Just don't use straight softened water in your grow. I thought steamroller was probably right that it would be fine after going through the RO system. If it saves on the RO membrane that's a plus, they are not cheap. I'm not likely to get a water softener here but I did not know that, so it's good to know about saving on the membrane.
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Agreed. Sounded like a win/win for me. Saves the mebrane some AND I get to avoid my crawlspace. That's what I'm talkin' bout!
 
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Got it now.

But why would you want to add a bag of salt, run 500 gal of RO water just to throw in another bag of salt.
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A bag of salt lasts us upwards of 3-4 months. I'll need 50 gallons of RO at a time. We average 107 gallons a day, softened. I don't think it'll make much of a difference.
 
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I've almost got everything in the room set up as needed. Just waiting on the RO system and trying to source a cheap 55 gallon drum. What's the best way to go about cleaning and sterilizing the room?

My plan was to give the whole room a good vacuuming. Then, mix a mild bleach water solution and wipe down all the smooth surfaces. Lysol all the other surfaces like the exposed studs and lumber. Ceiling and shit.

Should I run a bleach or peroxide mixture through the lines for the plumbing?

Any other precautions or steps to take?
 
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Best thing about hydro is I can eat off the floor again.
 
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I use Rubbermaid Brutes to store water.
They have a 20, 32, 42g with lid that you can get a 6 wheel dolly for.
The bleach and water should work. You can rinse lines if you choose.
Just let everything dry. If you still smell it, it is still there.
1part bleach to 10 parts water is safe
 
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I have a water softener and RO systems.

The RO filters seem to last forever. My out of the RO filter PPM is less than 20.
 
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I have a water softener and RO systems.

The RO filters seem to last forever. My out of the RO filter PPM is less than 20.
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Nice. I'm looking at an RO system that'll hook right up to my sink. I think that would be the easiest route for me.
 
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Nice. I'm looking at an RO system that'll hook right up to my sink. I think that would be the easiest route for me.
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Here's the one I had in mind. There's only about a million options when you get on Amazon. This one seemed to have everything I would need for an easy hookup in my bathroom.

AQUATICLIFE 4-Stage Reverse Osmosis Water Filtration Deionization System, RO/DI Filter Unit 100 GPD - Amazon.com

AQUATICLIFE 4-Stage Reverse Osmosis Water Filtration Deionization System, RO/DI Filter Unit 100 GPD - Amazon.com
www.amazon.com
 
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