Hello all newbie from upstate ny

[PlumberSoCal2]

See the moth egg right in the middle?

Do you have any idea how mnt plants I grow? No, I can not afford all the netting it would take and they do not work all that well. It's not even a little feasible.

Read, learn:

Neem Oil Fact Sheet

Bro science is meaningless

 

[Merkle]

Check your facts before encouraging others to follow bad advice. This is from the manufactures web site, dude.

• Lipid Pneumonia Risk: The primary concern with inhaling oil-based products is the risk of developing lipid pneumonia, an inflammation of the lungs caused by the aspiration of fats.
• • Respiratory Irritation: Inhaling the residue can cause severe coughing, throat irritation, and other respiratory problems, particularly for individuals with existing conditions like asthma or COPD.
  • Allergic Reactions: Some individuals may have adverse or allergic reactions to neem oil, which could be a serious issue if inhaled.
  • Unpleasant Taste/Smell: Besides potential health risks, neem oil has a strong, pungent, and bitter smell and taste (often described as garlic-like) that will stick to the buds and create an unpleasant smoking experience.

Best Practices

• Avoid Buds During Flowering: The general consensus among experienced growers is to never apply neem oil directly to the buds, especially once flowering has started.
• Cease Application Pre-Harvest:Application should ideally stop at least three weeks before harvest to allow any residue to dissipate.
• Proper Use: Neem oil is typically used as a foliar spray on the leaves (tops and undersides) during the vegetative stage, usually right before lights go out to avoid leaf burn.

 

[orggrwr]

I don't use neem in flower but Jack's and bt are fine, especially if you bud wash your outdoor grows.

 

[Merkle]

I don't use neem in flower but Jack's and bt are fine, especially if you bud wash

I don't use neem in flower but Jack's and bt are fine, especially if you bud wash your outdoor grows.

I would wash thoroughly as to whatever you are using on your buds. Smoking anything but pure unadulterated weed could not be good for your lungs.

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Check your facts before encouraging others to follow bad advice. This is from the manufactures web site, dude.

• Lipid Pneumonia Risk: The primary concern with inhaling oil-based products is the risk of developing lipid pneumonia, an inflammation of the lungs caused by the aspiration of fats.
• • Respiratory Irritation: Inhaling the residue can cause severe coughing, throat irritation, and other respiratory problems, particularly for individuals with existing conditions like asthma or COPD.
  • Allergic Reactions: Some individuals may have adverse or allergic reactions to neem oil, which could be a serious issue if inhaled.
  • Unpleasant Taste/Smell: Besides potential health risks, neem oil has a strong, pungent, and bitter smell and taste (often described as garlic-like) that will stick to the buds and create an unpleasant smoking experience.

Best Practices

• Avoid Buds During Flowering: The general consensus among experienced growers is to never apply neem oil directly to the buds, especially once flowering has started.
• Cease Application Pre-Harvest:Application should ideally stop at least three weeks before harvest to allow any residue to dissipate.
• Proper Use: Neem oil is typically used as a foliar spray on the leaves (tops and undersides) during the vegetative stage, usually right before lights go out to avoid leaf burn.

Really?

Neem oil is commonly used in horticulture to combat or prevent molds and other diseases. This oil, extracted from the neem tree, native to India, contains natural fungicidal materials.

You can use neem oil as a preventative measure, if you suspect a bud rot outbreak is starting in your greenhouse or grow room.

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Neem Oil is one of the most widely used, and most effective ways of combating pests in the grow room. When we surveyed our readers, it’s used by growers 8 times more than the next most popular pesticide, natural or not.

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Then there's personal experience and my actual instructions:

"Neem oil, Jack's Dead Bug and Bt are my go to. Neem in vegg every week and even into the first couple weeks of flower."

After years of use and I'm still standing and healthy the BS is obvious.

Did you also get fooled like 80+% of Americans and get c.o.v.i.d shots?

 

[Merkle]

Really?

Neem oil is commonly used in horticulture to combat or prevent molds and other diseases. This oil, extracted from the neem tree, native to India, contains natural fungicidal materials.

You can use neem oil as a preventative measure, if you suspect a bud rot outbreak is starting in your greenhouse or grow room.

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Neem Oil is one of the most widely used, and most effective ways of combating pests in the grow room. When we surveyed our readers, it’s used by growers 8 times more than the next most popular pesticide, natural or not.

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Then there's personal experience and my actual instructions:

"Neem oil, Jack's Dead Bug and Bt are my go to. Neem in vegg every week and even into the first couple weeks of flower."

After years of use and I'm still standing and healthy the BS is obvious.

Did you also get fooled like 80+% of Americans and get c.o.v.i.d shots?

Once again these are facts from the manufactures information not my own opinion. There are facts based on “real scientific data “ it’s not bro science. I am not going to argue with anyone on this forum. I am trying to help a person who is new to growing weed and that is what this forum is about. I am not going to address any other comments.

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Once again these are facts from the manufactures information not my own opinion. There are facts based on “real scientific data “ it’s not bro science. I am not going to argue with anyone on this forum. I am trying to help a person who is new to growing weed and that is what this forum is about. I am not going to address any other comments.

Cannabis lipid pneumonia is uncommon but has been increasingly recognized, particularly due to vaping, though the overall incidence is not precisely known. It is a rare condition where lipids from inhaled substances, such as those in cannabis vape products, build up in the lungs, causing inflammation. This type of pneumonia can be serious, but many people recover after stopping exposure to the lipid substance.

Looks like it's a common problem, Einstein

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Once again these are facts from the manufactures information not my own opinion. There are facts based on “real scientific data “ it’s not bro science. I am not going to argue with anyone on this forum. I am trying to help a person who is new to growing weed and that is what this forum is about. I am not going to address any other comments.

It's obvious you do not grow outdoors yet you think you can help someone else grow outdoors? You haven't a clue how to control insects and would wind up producing little. Stick with what you know or learn what you don't before offering help

 

[Hossgrows]

Once again these are facts from the manufactures information not my own opinion. There are facts based on “real scientific data “ it’s not bro science. I am not going to argue with anyone on this forum. I am trying to help a person who is new to growing weed and that is what this forum is about. I am not going to address any other comments.

I'd have to say this.... he's in northern NY. I'm NE Ohio. We ain't got pillers like y'all do. Spider mites, aphids, and leaf hoppers are our main threats. I had very little problems with them. Our biggest threat is powdery mildew and bud rot, up here. As well as reaching maturity with most strains, for our geographic location.

Dman....ask AI what strains would grow best for your location, it'll give u a choice of photo strains like Northern lites, durbin poison, ect. Or look at fast flower or auto strains.

Search outdoor grow diaries, and read thru them to get a feel of how farmers grow in their areas, what soils and amendments they use.

I'm not new to grow things, but still a bit green to growing cannabis. Learning more all the time, and loving the challenges it brings.

It's a weed, and quite resilient. 2025 was my first grow in my simple garden. All I did was add peat moss, perlite, horse n cow manure, and fish carcasses to my soil. And the occasional rodent that digs holes under my garden shed, or the trash panda's tearing up my buildings. I did give them a bit of miracle grow during veg, and some bloom booster during flowering. I ended up with just over 2 3/4 lbs. from those first two plants. But learned a lot from that first grow.....I could've done better. But we all have to start somewhere, to learn our mistakes or where we can do better, next grow.

Find a strain that'll work best for your location, and go for it. Don't try to out think it, keep it simple. Ya might be surprised at the results, and you'll gain knowledge of how it grows in your location, and how to utilize it better the next grow.

U have to learn how to crawl before u can stand, and walk before you can run. Its life lessons for all of us, but we'll try to lessen the learning curve for u, with the combined knowledge, here at the farm.

 

[dman049162]

I'd have to say this.... he's in northern NY. I'm NE Ohio. We ain't got pillers like y'all do. Spider mites, aphids, and leaf hoppers are our main threats. I had very little problems with them. Our biggest threat is powdery mildew and bud rot, up here. As well as reaching maturity with most strains, for our geographic location.

Dman....ask AI what strains would grow best for your location, it'll give u a choice of photo strains like Northern lites, durbin poison, ect. Or look at fast flower or auto strains.

Search outdoor grow diaries, and read thru them to get a feel of how farmers grow in their areas, what soils and amendments they use.

I'm not new to grow things, but still a bit green to growing cannabis. Learning more all the time, and loving the challenges it brings.

It's a weed, and quite resilient. 2025 was my first grow in my simple garden. All I did was add peat moss, perlite, horse n cow manure, and fish carcasses to my soil. And the occasional rodent that digs holes under my garden shed, or the trash panda's tearing up my buildings. I did give them a bit of miracle grow during veg, and some bloom booster during flowering. I ended up with just over 2 3/4 lbs. from those first two plants. But learned a lot from that first grow.....I could've done better. But we all have to start somewhere, to learn our mistakes or where we can do better, next grow.

Find a strain that'll work best for your location, and go for it. Don't try to out think it, keep it simple. Ya might be surprised at the results, and you'll gain knowledge of how it grows in your location, and how to utilize it better the next grow.

U have to learn how to crawl before u can stand, and walk before you can run. Its life lessons for all of us, but we'll try to lessen the learning curve for u, with the combined knowledge, here at the farm.

At this point im mostly concerned of climate and timeframe to start. Along with how life states look. Im honestly not a good "book learner" but im good in person...which is why I went to a technical school in high school. I do learn some by reading. But i absorb more by doing. I forgot a friend of mine grows and hes willing to be my in person teacher. He's not perfect(he said that) but he gets by. But thats what Im looking for for in person to supplement learning by reading. Especially with my families active lifestyle its easier to learn in person. I can learn the science of it all by reading. But the basics in person.

Currently brain storming spring startup for a garage countertop seedlings start diy on a budget...as my first step. Thinking harbor freight 2ft grow light for 25 bucks with plastic corrugated roofing and 1x1 lumber for framework. And maybe some of that reflective crap tape to the walls for light reflective purposes. Drilling a few holes f9r humidity regulation.

 

[dman049162]

At this point im mostly concerned of climate and timeframe to start. Along with how life states look. Im honestly not a good "book learner" but im good in person...which is why I went to a technical school in high school. I do learn some by reading. But i absorb more by doing. I forgot a friend of mine grows and hes willing to be my in person teacher. He's not perfect(he said that) but he gets by. But thats what Im looking for for in person to supplement learning by reading. Especially with my families active lifestyle its easier to learn in person. I can learn the science of it all by reading. But the basics in person.

Currently brain storming spring startup for a garage countertop seedlings start diy on a budget...as my first step. Thinking harbor freight 2ft grow light for 25 bucks with plastic corrugated roofing and 1x1 lumber for framework. And maybe some of that reflective crap tape to the walls for light reflective purposes. Drilling a few holes f9r humidity regulation.

Also talking heat mat for warmth

 

[Merkle]

Also talking heat mat for warmth

Sounds good for your seedlings. As long as there are no drafts you should be good for that phase of growth.

 

[dman049162]

Sounds good for your seedlings. As long as there are no drafts you should be good for that phase of growth.

My garage ain't perfect but its not a barn with inch wide gaps between boards lol

 

[Hossgrows]

My garage ain't perfect but its not a barn with inch wide gaps between boards lol

I have a furnished basement. I use the unfinished wet bar table. It's a little cooler than upstairs, but in the range that I can safely germinate and have seedlings ready for transplant, come mother's day.... typically.

I kept my container wrapped in a towel for insulation, so to maintain a more consistent ground temperature.

That brings me to my medium/soil.
I used soil straight from my garden, mixed with some old hyponex potting soil, and some organic, dry fertilizer ( miracle grow). Watered till completely soaked, then let sit till nearly dry, before placing seed in it. That should wake up the microbes, and get things started for the seedlings, before hand. I was trying to make transplanting move along easier, without them having to adjust to a different medium than what they were already accustomed to. I just had to get the garden amended in the same matter as the pots, but for extended growing for the season.

Wished I was close enough to give ya hands on, we'd both be learning new stuff. The Indians taught us something....fish work's. And I bury buckets of them in my garden every year, after transplanting the kids.