Hello, help with ph’ing with biobizz!

[AlanJohnson]

Apparently there’s a lot of this stuff ‘trihalomethanes’ which is meant to be bad and water failed to reach safe levels of chlorine in 98% or something close of tests, it’s an old network but being replaced.
Looks like a lot of the things we’re taught to fear in growing are more of a marketing thing.

I'm lucky,

I’ve got three Colombian gold landrace seeds that look super promising. I think I’m gonna try to germinate them in my next run.

I really want to try some land race full Indicas (not got the height for Sativas yet, is it the heirloom seeds your using ?

 

[Eledin]

Tap water was made to be human and plant safe, were watering vast amounts of soil crops here with the stuff and no pH control.

Everything about soil here is marketing, can just go to a supermarket buy cheap indoor soil and ferts and succeed.

I strongly disagree. You can grow with tap water yes, depending on where you live is fine, but is not optimal if you dont make sure the PH is where it needs to be. Also commercial soils are trash. I dont wanna be mean but is the second post I see from you that makes no sense to me. There's a difference in between a plant getting by and thriving.
Also I wouldnt drink my tap water even if they paid me to do so. Saying its safe is relative, it has long term health effects due to chlorides and residues, and if you live in a rural area like me expect A LOT of them to counteract e-coli and other bacteria from the shit from animals that filters to the underground water currents.

 

[Eledin]

In big gardens or fields is normal that you dont meassure the PH. Changing parameters can give you better yields but is counter productive because farmers get paid shit for their crops, so they are not gonna start going full organic, meassuring ph, introducing new microorganisms, etc... but for weed? I mean, there's plenty of studies already you dont have to believe me, use google scholar or search professor bugbee in youtube, the differences are very drastic when you have the optimal parameters.

 

[KG1]

I strongly disagree. You can grow with tap water yes, depending on where you live is fine, but is not optimal if you dont make sure the PH is where it needs to be.

Ph is quite irrelevant if the alkalinity is low as in all good tap waters.

Many fail to understand that 100ppm of calcium thrown into a soil matrix isnt going to do nothing.

Alkalinity is what your missing and the sum power of 100ppm of calcium on a soil matrix is meaningless.

Some just suck at growing is the answer then try and teach soil growers how to grow in soil which is simply off-putting and weird.

Not only do I understand soil but I understand water and growers round the world in a load of different waters all produced exactly the same results despite the fact you think they need to pH it.....

Not sure what else to say, your cross to burn not mine I can do it with many wrong pH waters sucks you still can't

 

[Eledin]

Ph is quite irrelevant if the alkalinity is low as in all good tap waters.

Many fail to understand that 100ppm of calcium thrown into a soil matrix isnt going to do nothing.

Alkalinity is what your missing and the sum power of 100ppm of calcium on a soil matrix is meaningless.

Some just suck at growing is the answer then try and teach soil growers how to grow in soil which is simply off-putting and weird.

Not only do I understand soil but I understand water and growers round the world in a load of different waters all produced exactly the same results despite the fact you think they need to pH it.....

Not sure what else to say, your cross to burn not mine I can do it with many wrong pH waters sucks you still can't

As I said, Ill trust the studies instead of a random dude that gives what seems to be very uneducated advice and is condescending to others that think differently.

 

[Eledin]

My tap water is highly alkaline, if I didnt check ph I would be having nute lockout every grow. And chlorides do damage microorganisms in the soil even if it doesnt wipe them all. Youre the one using the bro science, the rest of us are using actual science.

 

[KG1]

My tap water is highly alkaline, if I didnt check ph I would be having nute lockout every grow. And chlorides do damage microorganisms in the soil even if it doesnt wipe them all. Youre the one using the bro science, the rest of us are using actual science.

3ppm of chlorine has less destructive power than a tardigrade.

You need to go look at all the science and studies you selectively omitted im afraid.

Even these small points you make are ridiculous at a scientific level...

 

[KG1]

My tap water is highly alkaline, if I didnt check ph I would be having nute lockout every grow. And chlorides do damage microorganisms in the soil even if it doesnt wipe them all. Youre the one using the bro science, the rest of us are using actual science.

My tap water can hit eight or over so what....

 

[Eledin]

3ppm of chlorine has less destructive power than a tardigrade.

You need to go look at all the science and studies you selectively omitted im afraid.

Even these small points you make are ridiculous at a scientific level...

The tap water in the US can contain up to 250ppm of chlorides, what are you talking about? Also it can contain way more than 100ppm of calcium aswell, seen tap water with 300ppm of calcium.

 

[Eledin]

My tap water can hit eight or over so what....

Show us your plants, lets see how marvelous are they with 8ph and commercial supermarket soil.

 

[ForestSpirit]

The tap water in the US can contain up to 250ppm of chlorides, what are you talking about? Also it can contain way more than 100ppm of calcium aswell, seen tap water with 300ppm of calcium.

The average calcium content in tap water and spring water in Russia is about the same, but I don't know about other countries.When Comrade Chesnokov and Mrs. Bazyrina prepared the solution, no calcium was added. They either added more water or less, because the average value was about 140 mg/L

 

[KG1]

Show us your plants, lets see how marvelous are they with 8ph and commercial supermarket soil.

Ah I see now it's a grow off because you think soil growers need to pH...

Really you just have bad water, not good for health or plants.

Sucks your so third world there.... Maybe follow the advice not blanket a board hmmmm!

 

[Eledin]

Ah I see now it's a grow off because you think soil growers need to pH...

Really you just have bad water, not good for health or plants.

Sucks your so third world there.... Maybe follow the advice not blanket a board hmmmm!

Ah I see, instead of showing evidence of what youre saying you insult me. In my third world country we have free healthcare and education and we dont have one of the highest incarcerations rates in the world, I can go for low blows too.

 

[Eledin]

Also what you dont seem to understand is that chlorides are naturally present in water, chlorine is only one type of chloride in your tap water.

 

[ForestSpirit]

Ah I see now it's a grow off because you think soil growers need to pH...

Really you just have bad water, not good for health or plants.

Sucks your so third world there.... Maybe follow the advice not blanket a board hmmmm!

I don't quite understand what you're arguing about, but I'll venture to suggest that when you talk about harm, you're referring to an excess of trace elements. However, I believe that central water supply eliminates the possibility of poisoning. If you have a well, you should have a filtration system that addresses this issue. The next step is to determine the amount of calcium in your water, which can be achieved by regulating the concentration. However, it's crucial to maintain a balance of essential elements. All elements except calcium. But if we fall below the 1ec concentration, we should add calcium.

 

[Eledin]

The average calcium content in tap water and spring water in Russia is about the same, but I don't know about other countries.When Comrade Chesnokov and Mrs. Bazyrina prepared the solution, no calcium was added. They either added more water or less, because the average value was about 140 mg/L

Depending on the hardness of the water you dont need to use calmag or not as much. I have hard water and I still use calmag because if you push other parameters accordingly you can push more nutes too, never had a problem with calcium toxicity or lack of calcium.

 

[orggrwr]

You two take it outside!

 

[Eledin]

Also I dont treat my tap water when Im watering onions or lettuce, but we are talking about weed.

 

[Eledin]

You two take it outside!

And let this guy tell the OP that he shouldnt meassure anything because its all bro science? Cant do that.

 

[ForestSpirit]

Chlorine is the only antagonist of sulfur. Just add sulfur. But chlorine can also be useful. It will be an additional nitrogen compound. In fact, you will have to add more nitrogen and potassium to the classic fertilizers, which is strange that I am saying this, but it already applies to the classic fertilizers, as the magnesium content is too high.I recommend reverse osmosis because it removes 98% of everything in the water, and you can use it to fertilize your garden. This may require some additional costs, but it can help reduce environmental pollution and excessive use of fertilizers in your home. Additionally, it can reduce the need for drainage, which can help minimize environmental pollution.