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Earthtoshell · Apr 16, 2020

Soo I've grown many many many plants a few years ago but I grew with other people running the show.. so I wanted to get some plants of my own. I am in hawaii and we are getting ready for long season. I got 3 clones.. they came to me in cups of water strong roots I transplanted in good organic soil. 1 of 3 got transplant shock BAD... I'm nursing her. The other 2 mamas where doing great until today... I took them outside to the shade for the morning and came out out to feed them some organic nutrients... came out an hour later to check on them since its breezy and they dropped and wilted hard.. soni brought in under the lights. I think they are over watered. They have good draining but the soil at the bottom of the 5 gal is wet enough that water drips to my hand when I push my finger in even tho the top layer is dry..
Soo I figure I need to veg them inside for like 3 days? And no watering..
Thoughts?

Last photo is of them this morning... happy

How many days until they look better? I dont have fancy lighting only a few house hold type lights

Madbud · Apr 16, 2020

Wind burn?

Earthtoshell · Apr 16, 2020

Madbud said:
Wind burn?

Honestly not sure what that looks like..

uphere · Apr 16, 2020

You should add perlite to your soil. I've suffered many a loss to heavy winds and it looked nothing like that. Plants look real hot to me but I'm no pro. Anyway, Im sure one of the pros will help you soon. Good luck on your grow.

growsince79 · Apr 16, 2020

Earthtoshell said:
Soo I've grown many many many plants a few years ago but I grew with other people running the show.. so I wanted to get some plants of my own. I am in hawaii and we are getting ready for long season. I got 3 clones.. they came to me in cups of water strong roots I transplanted in good organic soil. 1 of 3 got transplant shock BAD... I'm nursing her. The other 2 mamas where doing great until today... I took them outside to the shade for the morning and came out out to feed them some organic nutrients... came out an hour later to check on them since its breezy and they dropped and wilted hard.. soni brought in under the lights. I think they are over watered. They have good draining but the soil at the bottom of the 5 gal is wet enough that water drips to my hand when I push my finger in even tho the top layer is dry..
Soo I figure I need to veg them inside for like 3 days? And no watering..
Thoughts?

Last photo is of them this morning... happy

How many days until they look better? I dont have fancy lighting only a few house hold type lights

The one in back looks dead

Madbud · Apr 16, 2020

Madbud said:
Wind burn?

Heres a couple that were overexposed the first day, combination of wind and natural light. They came back after a couple days back indoors but they were not clones.

uphere · Apr 16, 2020

Wow, Ive never seen that and now I've seen it twice. Good call madbud. Ive grown os for over 30 years and haven't run in to that. Probably the only little problem I've avoided.

Earthtoshell · Apr 17, 2020

Madbud said:
Heres a couple that were overexposed the first day, combination of wind and natural light. They came back after a couple days back indoors but they were not clones.View attachment 962523 View attachment 962524

Wow lucky did you have them under light at night?
Mine just are a shit show.. I showed a friend and they said I needed to mist them.. so I tried.. as he has a indoor grow down the road. And now worse.... I need seeds like now to start... I'm totally new to growing from clones.. but I grow alot of food I'm not that new at this.. I'm so confused

Hatchett · Apr 17, 2020

I had a plant behave like that once but it died because it was outdoor and I wasn't able to re-locate it I figured it up to a duel factor of over watering/and or over fertilization and drastic temp change.. I personally don't think that looks like wind burn and I grew that plant in the desert it was 6 months old and died and withered almost in an 18 hour period it was Blue Dream. I'll try and find a picture of it..

One drop · Apr 17, 2020

Earthtoshell said:
Soo I've grown many many many plants a few years ago but I grew with other people running the show.. so I wanted to get some plants of my own. I am in hawaii and we are getting ready for long season. I got 3 clones.. they came to me in cups of water strong roots I transplanted in good organic soil. 1 of 3 got transplant shock BAD... I'm nursing her. The other 2 mamas where doing great until today... I took them outside to the shade for the morning and came out out to feed them some organic nutrients... came out an hour later to check on them since its breezy and they dropped and wilted hard.. soni brought in under the lights. I think they are over watered. They have good draining but the soil at the bottom of the 5 gal is wet enough that water drips to my hand when I push my finger in even tho the top layer is dry..
Soo I figure I need to veg them inside for like 3 days? And no watering..
Thoughts?

Last photo is of them this morning... happy

How many days until they look better? I dont have fancy lighting only a few house hold type lights

If as you say the soil is very wet , the plants are trying to transpire the fluid through there transport tissue up to the leaf then to atmosphere your plants are doing that , the need for better drainage a more open medium so the roots can breath , and keeping you pots up off cold floor surface will help as well good luck have fun .... Aloha.

Madbud · Apr 17, 2020

Earthtoshell said:
Wow lucky did you have them under light at night?
Mine just are a shit show.. I showed a friend and they said I needed to mist them.. so I tried.. as he has a indoor grow down the road. And now worse.... I need seeds like now to start... I'm totally new to growing from clones.. but I grow alot of food I'm not that new at this.. I'm so confused

They do look pretty far gone. I drenched mine, put them in heavy shade, temps were moderate and they came back, but they were from seed, not clones.

Madbud · Apr 17, 2020

Hatchett said:
I had a plant behave like that once but it died because it was outdoor and I wasn't able to re-locate it I figured it up to a duel factor of over watering/and or over fertilization and drastic temp change.. I personally don't think that looks like wind burn and I grew that plant in the desert it was 6 months old and died and withered almost in an 18 hour period it was Blue Dream. I'll try and find a picture of it..

Yeah, they were more wind beaten than typical windburn from a fan. But a steady breeze for any length of time batters them unless they’re hardened. From then on i put them on the bulkhead stairs for a couple days to prevent wind and direct sun. (My avatar)

Earthtoshell · Apr 17, 2020

Okay so if these are far gone and I wanna start over with seeds.. someone please just tell me everything lol...can I just get them started in a window then veg them at night with super basic lighting... 24 hours ....

Earthtoshell · Apr 17, 2020

My nieghbor gave me a seed start he has super tiny but it was started under artificial light can I get to still do its thing under basic lighting... doni have to transition it?

Madbud · Apr 17, 2020

Earthtoshell said:
My nieghbor gave me a seed start he has super tiny but it was started under artificial light can I get to still do its thing under basic lighting... doni have to transition it?

Yes, the simplest veg light is a flourescent tube or bulb, no heat so 3-4 inches is good. The roots on that little seedling are probably 6 inches in all directions already so be sure its really dry before you water, then give it a good drink. Hope its a girl!

Earthtoshell · Apr 17, 2020

Madbud said:
Yes, the simplest veg light is a flourescent tube or bulb, no heat so 3-4 inches is good. The roots on that little seedling are probably 6 inches in all directions already so be sure its really dry before you water, then give it a good drink. Hope its a girl!

Okay so maybe I can just be sure all the bulbs in the pantry ( that's where I plan to veg them as it's generally out of the way ) are fluorescent... and it is a girl feminized. :) how can i transition it to being outside in sun most of the day then inside under light... with out killing it too...

Earthtoshell · Apr 17, 2020

Madbud said:
Yes, the simplest veg light is a flourescent tube or bulb, no heat so 3-4 inches is good. The roots on that little seedling are probably 6 inches in all directions already so be sure its really dry before you water, then give it a good drink. Hope its a girl!

And your sure I can do that even tho it's been in a I dorr setup most of it's already life? My nieghbor keeps saying theres no way it will transition to outdoor..

One drop · Apr 17, 2020

It will be ok to go outdoors in a few weeks .

Hatchett · Apr 17, 2020

Madbud said:
Yeah, they were more wind beaten than typical windburn from a fan. But a steady breeze for any length of time batters them unless they’re hardened. From then on i put them on the bulkhead stairs for a couple days to prevent wind and direct sun. (My avatar)

yea now that I think about it my outdoor is always protected well from wind, and just a good tip depending on how you make the top of the wall and or barrier can affect the range of wind flow. For example if a straight up 6 ft wall has an angled inward lip it'll block wind for 6-8 ft on the inward side of the fence, depending on the speeds and different lips on the top.. plus height drastically affect the ratio. I'v personally noticed excessive winds can stunt or affect the plant insanely.... as for my indoors you got. This crop has never had any type of wind burn, I'v had the fan or high fans damage plants in the past.

Earthtoshell · Apr 17, 2020

Hatchett said:
yea now that I think about it my outdoor is always protected well from wind, and just a good tip depending on how you make the top of the wall and or barrier can affect the range of wind flow. For example if a straight up 6 ft wall has an angled inward lip it'll block wind for 6-8 ft on the inward side of the fence, depending on the speeds and different lips on the top.. plus height drastically affect the ratio. I'v personally noticed excessive winds can stunt or affect the plant insanely.... as for my indoors you got. This crop has never had any type of wind burn, I'v had the fan or high fans damage plants in the past.

There is a chance they got some wind today.. but I was trying to bring them out so they where in the shade next to a 6 to 8 ft wall of ti leaves.. they didnt move much when I watched the wind pass through but I wasnt watching the whole time but this is totally when shit changed so bad for them... so how can I fix it if its wind damage?

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