help on identifying deficiency? mag?

GNick55 · Apr 3, 2021

well, i’ve came up with this i’d give full grow big, full big bloom, half tiger bloom..
they don’t list on tiger bloom the ca %? why?
i know they use standard tap water for their nutrients.
and try raising your lights like 5-6 inches
i’m not 100% confident this will help..
maybe someone out there to confirm?

kyLman · Apr 3, 2021

GNick55 said:
well, i’ve came up with this i’d give full grow big, full big bloom, half tiger bloom..
they don’t list on tiger bloom the ca %? why?
i know they use standard tap water for their nutrients.
and try raising your lights like 5-6 inches
i’m not 100% confident this will help..
maybe someone out there to confirm?

Sounds like a plan, I will go back to 100% and raise lights couple of inches. I am curious why on half tiger bloom? Excess phos? Sounds like a plan either way, just curious to understanding.

GNick55 · Apr 4, 2021

kyLman said:
Sounds like a plan, I will go back to 100% and raise lights couple of inches. I am curious why on half tiger bloom? Excess phos? Sounds like a plan either way, just curious to understanding.

yep and it could be locking out magnesium.
when you gonna feed? tomorrow when lights come on? if so than there’s all day tomorrow for others to reply if i’m wrong, but i’m not far off so don’t think it would hurt any, in case.
and that’s for all plants..,
though it would be nice to know the calcium %’s in each of those nutes.. anyho..

Moshmen · Apr 4, 2021

Been following here - I don’t remember what media your in soil of some kind of soil right? Black gold maybe? Anyways - about the only thing I have a different opinion on on is runoff, I like run off -about 20% it helps keep the salt from building up and if your not organic it doesn’t deplete the meadow in my opinion , if you were in amended soil I’d say no run off but bottle fed nutes absolutely- I also take my ppm reading from the runoff if it’s climbing say water in is 800 and water out is 1200 I know I’m getting build up and problems are coming - just different technique

Good looking healthy plant ya got up front there ! Nice work

and the others gonna be alright Gman got you !
happy grows
Mosh

GNick55 · Apr 4, 2021

take this advice with run off if you can!
thanks
@Moshmen any thing to add! absolutely!
think his lights come on at 7:00 pm?..

Moshmen · Apr 4, 2021

GNick55 said:
take this advice with run off if you can!
thanks
@Moshmen any thing to add! absolutely!
think his lights come on at 7:00 pm?..

Nah only that I’m a constant underfeeder! Lmao so I’m used to colorful plants ! Really just wanted him to know those plants gonna make it. I know how it is. Lol
- I just see ya hangin around more and more, helpin us newer growers ! Thanx by the way! But I think we have very similar styles and tastes! Lol

so just so ya know not tryin to step on any toes! Just trollin around behind ya! Lol - please take that as a compliment

kyLman · Apr 4, 2021

Moshmen said:
Nah only that I’m a constant underfeeder! Lmao so I’m used to colorful plants ! Really just wanted him to know those plants gonna make it. I know how it is. Lol
- I just see ya hangin around more and more, helpin us newer growers ! Thanx by the way! But I think we have very similar styles and tastes! Lol

so just so ya know not tryin to step on any toes! Just trollin around behind ya! Lol - please take that as a compliment

everyone here is so darn helpful, I appreciate it guys. Ill stick to the runoff, the salt buildup is what i heard about too. They should be ready for feed tonight, I will take pics and post when they wake up. So, I can take the ppm of the runoff and itll tell me if its building up nutes or being used? Is that a precursor to problems prior to seeing them usually?

GNick55 · Apr 4, 2021

wow the pressures on me! haha.
and compliments to you as well!
you sound like a great guy!
i like helping and i want everyone to grow fantastic plants and be happy. i try to reply in simple terms there are easy to understand, and by no means do i know everything, haha..
anytime i’m posting/helping someone and my info is incorrect than absolutely anyone jump in and correct me!!!
the goal here is to help people learn and get help with their plants!
i understand myself that the search on the internet can get confusing or just hard to make a decision.. like most growers i learned by making mistakes with wrong decisions or just not knowing what to do.
so please anyone reading this and you see my help is wrong than please jump in and fix!!!
love you all!
peace from Canada!
Nick..

GNick55 · Apr 4, 2021

Moshmen said:
Nah only that I’m a constant underfeeder! Lmao so I’m used to colorful plants ! Really just wanted him to know those plants gonna make it. I know how it is. Lol
- I just see ya hangin around more and more, helpin us newer growers ! Thanx by the way! But I think we have very similar styles and tastes! Lol

so just so ya know not tryin to step on any toes! Just trollin around behind ya! Lol - please take that as a compliment

my reply was to you and everyone here..

boomgagem · Apr 4, 2021

kyLman said:
I have iOS :(

Look for an app called photone, the LED option you’ll need is 4 bucks

RealizedReal000 · Apr 4, 2021

Moshmen said:
Been following here - I don’t remember what media your in soil of some kind of soil right? Black gold maybe? Anyways - about the only thing I have a different opinion on on is runoff, I like run off -about 20% it helps keep the salt from building up and if your not organic it doesn’t deplete the meadow in my opinion , if you were in amended soil I’d say no run off but bottle fed nutes absolutely- I also take my ppm reading from the runoff if it’s climbing say water in is 800 and water out is 1200 I know I’m getting build up and problems are coming - just different technique

Good looking healthy plant ya got up front there ! Nice work

and the others gonna be alright Gman got you !
happy grows
Mosh

Absolute beautiful info. :)

RealizedReal000 · Apr 4, 2021

And don’t forget to check your run off waters ph. Can detect signs of lockout for ph concerns.

Moshmen · Apr 4, 2021

GNick55 said:
wow the pressures on me! haha.
and compliments to you as well!
you sound like a great guy!
i like helping and i want everyone to grow fantastic plants and be happy. i try to reply in simple terms there are easy to understand, and by no means do i know everything, haha..
anytime i’m posting/helping someone and my info is incorrect than absolutely anyone jump in and correct me!!!
the goal here is to help people learn and get help with their plants!
i understand myself that the search on the internet can get confusing or just hard to make a decision.. like most growers i learned by making mistakes with wrong decisions or just not knowing what to do.
so please anyone reading this and you see my help is wrong than please jump in and fix!!!
love you all!
peace from Canada!
Nick..

Growing is just like any “art” what works for me may not work for you so I think we all acquire our own style eventually!

Moshmen · Apr 4, 2021

GNick55 said:
my reply was to you and everyone here..

I would never say or think it’s “wrong” again just a Different approach. And everyone grow is different there’s lots of growers got the no runoff thing dialed! It’s difficult fir us Nubi’s

GREENSOURCE · Apr 4, 2021

GNick55 said:
just remember that happened because of overwatering and over doing it with nutrients, now that you’ve dialed it back, watch the new growth daily, as maybe a deficiency may show up, but probably not..
any real bad leaves can be removed, just a few everyday or two, just don’t want to stress her out, again..

Exactly, hit them hard when you get home!

Tubilcain · Apr 5, 2021

kyLman said:
everyone here is so darn helpful, I appreciate it guys. Ill stick to the runoff, the salt buildup is what i heard about too. They should be ready for feed tonight, I will take pics and post when they wake up. So, I can take the ppm of the runoff and itll tell me if its building up nutes or being used? Is that a precursor to problems prior to seeing them usually?

Sounds like everyone here has you covered. I wanted to throw my two cents in as well. I agree with the over watering and over feeding. I grow hydroponically RDWC so I have no experience with the run off. But what I seen in some of the pictures was the new growth had really skinny fingers, and some were a brighter green. Which is a sign of excess nutrient for both phosphorus and potassium. Too much P causes calcium and magnesium deficiencies. Too much K causes calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc deficiencies.
So some times when you are seeing calcium and magnesium deficiencies, there is the possibility that an excess of P or K is causing a shortage of calmag when the right amount of calmag is available to the plant. If you are short just the cal mag, you won’t see the skinny fingers and light green colour.

kyLman · Apr 5, 2021

Here’s some update pics after last feed. Thoughts? Concerns? Should I go full nutes next time?

GNick55 · Apr 6, 2021

kyLman said:
Here’s some update pics after last feed. Thoughts? Concerns? Should I go full nutes next time?

hey i’m here.. sorry i passed out on the couch than had a big day at work today.,
having a couple doobies and a coffee going through your pictures.,

kyLman · Apr 6, 2021

GNick55 said:
hey i’m here.. sorry i passed out on the couch than had a big day at work today.,
having a couple doobies and a coffee going through your pictures.,

no worries broski, i think were doing fine anyways. ill post pics in a couple hours to show how were doing today.

RealizedReal000 · Apr 6, 2021

I would stick with what your last feed was for a bit cause it seems to look better. :)

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