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dude get a life leave the poor man to enjoy his hobby.it was fun at the beggining but your just harrasing him in his own diary

It's not a diary it's a mockery to growing and secondly he is way worse than me swearing and ranting maybe you should have a word with him first?

Then thirdly you understand who this is, he posts details and photo id your having problems working that out. This isn't the first site he has tried his aggressive behaviour on and got banned or the first people he has unloaded his narcissistic behaviour onto.

No sorry when we all said this was bogus and dead he went off at us.... Maybe I can get a warning to confirm my behaviour worse than his and I've been aggressive and bullying from an actual mod!!!!!

Just saying and before someone kills their grow following the fool!!!
 
who cares if he burns his plant.soo what if he wants to write novels he isnt going to other peoples diary and fighting them.i found him in the trainwreck and only because mike invited him there.he is sticking to his diary he can rant all he wants.
i understand the first few days when people fought he needed help and did stuff wrong but now when he says he doesnt want help and he doesnt care about the correct way leave him be.

nobody is gonna follow him he has 0.2g/w
 
who cares if he burns his plant.soo what if he wants to write novels he isnt going to other peoples diary and fighting them.i found him in the trainwreck and only because mike invited him there.he is sticking to his diary he can rant all he wants.
i understand the first few days when people fought he needed help and did stuff wrong but now when he says he doesnt want help and he doesnt care about the correct way leave him be.

nobody is gonna follow him he has 0.2g/w
Im sorry are you a Moderator?

Feel like you just insulted him on his own thread too... 0.2g a watt, nice comment bro!!!!

Now sorry but if you don't like the comments maybe don't post to a site where people are encouraged to comment.

You gonna call me an asshole dick like he did too, I mean that's a ban according to the rules right!!!
 
You’ve been in his shit from pretty much the beginning of the thread. Who gives a fuck if his plant looks like the energizer bunny hit by lightning. Chill out. If you don’t like his thread, don’t comment on it. You ain’t exactly the nicest guy either. For fucks sake.
 
"interesting" that's due to myself quickly understanding your meaning, and I said it in fun, but I still had difficulty sleeping that night, really, I suck at anything but sincere friendship, to add, write a novel and I'll consume it in a day, no science fiction thanks
That's okay . The words having difficulty sleeping is kind of scary though. Nothing I do has any effect on your life. At least I hope not.

I'm aware if I succeed, I'm going to crush an industry. It's pretty straightforward. I'm causing some incredible angst in some people right now.

Hopefully that's not you. I like you. But I like many of the people here who are helping me crush their industry. So that's some cognitive dissonance there.

Keep in mind, anybody helping me, if you sell cannabis for a living, this will hurt you.
 
You’ve been in his shit from pretty much the beginning of the thread. Who gives a fuck if his plant looks like the energizer bunny hit by lightning. Chill out. If you don’t like his thread, don’t comment on it. You ain’t exactly the nicest guy either. For fucks sake.
When the adults gather the children will play. They hang out at the kids table, they hang out at the den, they make a lot of fucking noise, and it's the adult's responsibility to feed them.

It's just something I've dealt with my whole life. Noisy kids. It's okay.

And let's face it. Come on when he's screaming about mockery, didn't you laugh loudly? I know I did. It was awesome.

Feel free to annoy him back, I'll pop in with pictures and whatever information I can occasionally. I'll rant occasionally. I'll answer questions occasionally. I believe I'm following the rules here. If others want to push it a little bit and be assholes about it, I don't mind that much. I expect there to be flame here.

Feed them search engines. Keep the specific thread active. Drive engagement.

This plant's got another month before I make a decision. So there'll be nothing of value here for another month unless you just want to hang out and see the pot porn or be annoyed.

It's only eyeballs at this point. It's no value. Don't waste your time here if you don't want to be annoyed or you don't enjoy this for the entertainment value

I've said many times. Lurkers are the most important people. We are the product. Not the customers.
 
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When the adults gather the children will play. They hang out at the kids table, they hang out at the den, they make a lot of fucking noise, and it's the adult's responsibility to feed them.

It's just something I've dealt with my whole life. Noisy kids. It's okay.

And let's face it. Come on when he's screaming about mockery, didn't you laugh loudly? I know I did. It was awesome.

Feel free to annoy him back, I'll pop in with pictures and whatever information I can occasionally. I'll rant occasionally. I'll answer questions occasionally. I believe I'm following the rules here. If others want to push it a little bit and be assholes about it, I don't mind that much. I expect there to be flame here.

Feed them search engines. Keep the specific thread active. Drive engagement.

This plant's got another month before I make a decision. So there'll be nothing of value here for another month unless you just want to hang out and see the pot porn or be annoyed.

It's only eyeballs at this point. It's no value. Don't waste your time here if you don't want to be annoyed or you don't enjoy this for the entertainment value.
That's what they don't realise, you've dealt with it all your life because you instigate it with your narcissistic personality.

ANd here you are doing it all over again!
 
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Yo, homie, I agree you should chill on Test's own thread.

We tend to moderate ourselves here at the Farm and make it very easy on the actual mods.

I invited Test to the Train Wreck when he first got here. He started his issues there, got warned, and for better or worse, he has been playing in his own sandbox ever since.

If you find his content that offensive, I suggest you use either the [report] and or the [ignore] button.


The Farm is a very chill place to hang with a bunch of really laid-back, like-minded people. We gather here out of a common love for a medicinal plant and sometimes even out of love for our fellow man.

All of us get out of line here at times and (thankfully) our peers check us up and remind us of why we're all gathered here to begin with.

Please, bro: If you don't start no drama, there won't be no drama.

If you don't feed & water the vine, it'll dry up and go away on it's own
 
"interesting" that's due to myself quickly understanding your meaning, and I said it in fun, but I still had difficulty sleeping that night, really, I suck at anything but sincere friendship, to add, write a novel and I'll consume it in a day, no science fiction thanks
Big fucking wall of text. You've been warned. Don't read this if that type of stuff annoys you.

Speaking of communication difficulties, my face-to-face speech patterns are atrocious unless I have prepared.

I mean I have to give myself a pitch and I have to drive myself into concentration and focus and memorize what I'm going to say in each case of that discussion that I'm about to have.

This could be a presentation to an audience of 20 to 50 people or could be simply face-to-face.

My life was a series of rapid fire technical conversations for the most part when I wasn't coding. But that's cuz I already knew it. That's all I could speak about. It was all in my back pocket.

It wasn't until I was about 45 until I could hold a conversation. Something clicked then. But it's still not an easy flow.

On reread and typo fix. I'm going to give you another spin here. I just remembered what clicked. Holy shit. Hot chick.

So I just started a job. I escaped one major company and I landed nicely in another and the boss who brought me in brought me in sold me as this holy shit off the charts genius. I'm not. He was overselling. He was justifying my salary. He had to convince his boss I was worth it. And that meant everyone had some fucking expectations.

I try not to do that.

A week in, the whole group goes to the local bar. Big and noisy with lots of music and dancing, and I don't do bars. I don't dance in this context. I've never been in one for more than 10 seconds in my life beyond a very specific band that I went to bars to see in my youth. That's it. It's a waste of money. I can't handle the noise or the social awkwardness.

But I was forced to go. I was a new guy.

I'm there and this incredibly beautiful woman comes up and asks me to dance and takes me to the floor and starts dancing with me (slow and close) and says it's good you did all those drugs in your youth cuz now you've lost enough intelligence that you're capable of speaking to us.

What the fuck?

How many different ways can someone stroke my ego simultaneously?

She is the junior to the production manager and I report to her on specific projects and every Monday morning I come in to say this is what the state of the project is. We had a standard meeting.

She refused to talk about business. She told me that it's her job to socialize with me. Simple as that. She will do it. So we simply had conversations. Rambling enjoyable, wild or not. What happened over the weekend and what did that feel like?

And then after an hour of that she said okay. It's business time and we got shit done.

She fixed me. And I don't remember her name.

When I hit 60 it all became magical. At that point I'm a goddamn social butterfly. The old man hormones kicked in. But until that point….

I am incapable of holding conversation without annoying the fuck out of the person across from me unless they can understand and accept what is happening and give me a tiny bit more time.

Just a little bit. Maybe a second and a half in between each passage of our words going back and forth.

I need that much time to hear and understand and flip it all around and figure out what I'm going to say next before I can start to formulate the words that I am saying.

That's because I'm not preparing what I'm saying while I'm listening to you. I'm actually trying to listen to you. I am incapable of listening and trying to understand while simultaneously figuring out what I'm going to say to you next.

I need a tiny bit of time. It's a lag. It's a face-to-face lag with another person. If you're on the phone, you might think it's AI.

Most people think I'm hesitating and it gives them an opportunity to continue to speak.

After the 20 or 40 or 100th time of this happening in a 20-minute conversation I am to the point of shut the fuck up when I am trying to say something.

I will interrupt you every time you start to speak. When I pause. I will ask for a pause. You will look at me like what the fuck, you just interrupted me, and you told me what to do. Yes I did. My hand is up like a traffic cop at that moment. Shut the fuck up.

Keep in mind I started my professional life as a bastard operator from hell. You walk into my office. You fucking kneel. So I was trained pretty hard in the beginning to control the users. Velvet covered steel glove.

Hey Brian.

You were a tough brilliant bastard.

You are my first system administrator/ hey kid shut the fuck up and get out of here. Read the fucking manual. Don't waste my time. Kneel before me. You kicked my ass and you kicked it well. I learned at least a half a dozen variations of Unix under you. Thank you very much. Maybe you'll read this here someday.

I started with ed. Line editors. I thought in grep. We didn't have them fancy backscrolling screens. Cursor positioning? Hah. In some rooms it was fucking punch cards. No screen at all.

When I got to the point that I could write termcap entries by hand, I started feeling a little more comfortable. When I could tell which terminals had the standard glitch that wasn't documented, I knew where to change the adjustment. When I could could write all the entries to emulate whatever terminal showed up on my desk and write the matching term cap entry and then proved it worked full screen identically to the software and the hardware and now the software can replace the hardware and they can use a PC and throw out all those old fucking terminals, life is getting a bit better. Multiplied that by all the companies buying that software.

And then fucking terminfo showed up and I had to learn it all again.

How many competing email systems were there 30 years ago. There must have been dozens that we went through before we settled on three of them that we might use and then there's new ones continuously that got better. It was a constant churn.

How many industrial printer device drivers talking to which CPU architecture and which seriall chip or parallel chip did I have to figure out the ioctl calls for? That's assembly and binary masks. That's bit twiddling. That's doing a lot of ANDs and XORs.

Moving on.

My next boss from 35 years ago is reading this forum. I give him entertainment that you cannot possibly imagine.

I used to tell him to shut the fuck up. He played jazz. He had a jazz station going on in his office. I ran into his office 20 times a day during heavy development or production issue times.

Every time I told him to turn his radio off because I cannot think when there is jazz in the room.

I need 5 mg of methamphetamine under my tongue at 5:00 in the morning to get through a solid day of work in a distracting environment to about 3:00 in the afternoon and then I'm dragging and then a train ride home for an hour and then relax for a few hours and go to sleep and flip back and do it again.

I can't do meth anymore. High blood pressure.

I cannot think at all if I am in a room with multiple conversations going. I simply cannot do it. I go into observe and absorb mode. Just let it flow and get the context. Get the gestalt.

I hear all the conversations and my subconscious is storing a significant portion of them. I can't pick them out individually later, but I might get a phrase or a feeling associated with a person based on the experience.

I always have a pad ready to take notes. If I want to store a thought in this context it cannot be done verbally or electronically. I have to write it by hand on a piece of paper.

Cocktail party effect. I hear everything simultaneously. Zero filter.

Adhd distraction story time…

Try to imagine me trying to concentrate and program while sitting next to my boss on the $300,000 seat on the stock exchange floor. That's what he told me that seat cost. Here, sit here, learn. I want you right here in the middle of the frenzy. Excuse me?

Yes this is a very special seat. This is the seat next to me in the center of 50 people that I run. We're packed like fucking sardines in here and there's a thousand screaming traders who need us continuously.

But they don't need me. I'm here to code some back office of shit that's going to change your world.

Yes, but there's all kinds of other things you need to learn and I want you sitting next to me during this process.

Nah.

How about you give me one of those executive glass boxes up there?

And how about you give me another desk next door on the 42nd floor with a window. My Lord, the storm's rolling in were awesome.

Can I have that? I'll just pop in over and hang out whenever you need me. I'm always accessible but I get to concentrate. And I get a view from the glass box, God damn that was awesome.

Oh, you're sending me to the development group down on Wall Street and you just want me to make friends and learn for a few weeks? Get vendor presentations and have people kiss my ass? Oh you want me to do a little coding? A little stealthy research. Oh yeah no problem. I can do that.

Oh you like that program that's running on all the servers and all the fucking trading systems. And you know whether or not trading is capable of running when you get off the train and therefore the whole fucking world works when you walk through the door.

Before this moment you didn't know what hell you were walking into, now you know exactly what's going on in every one of those goddamn servers down to a red light or a green light.

Can trading commence?

Yeah I got that. I can code that. Give me 2 weeks.

It took them 3 months to turn on the security permissions to allow that code to run. It had to figure out everything everywhere. That's a lot of servers with a lot of permissions. And I was doing process table application checks and is this the right application on the right server? Talking to the right application on the other server. Now map it out too. The matrix of thousands of trading servers. Now map that out into a time zone with many of these centers.

I had to code my own multitasking distribution throttling system just to keep a scoreboard going for the thousands of applications running simultaneously while not impacting trading.

That took 3 hours. No problem.

Oh, you liked it, it worked, cool. What do you mean? I have to come into the office every NIGHT for the next two weeks to talk to some guy in Japan. Oh you want my code running in Japan. Okay. I have to guide him through the implementation cuz I don't get security on the Japanese systems. Got it.

That was a fucked up schedule.

Oh that works very nicely and now this is getting some attention and holy shit.

You're telling me you the guy who's in charge of this whole fucking world, and trust me this guy had power, said that two weeks of code that I wrote made his career and whatever next level meeting and discussions were I had is they're flying me to London next week and they just want me to have fun and turn the code on.

They've already given me the go have fun credit card.

That was the first time in my life. Go Have Fun.

Every coworker you meet, offer to take out. Offer to take them to an expensive restaurant or bar across the street. Go get some expensive booze and play pool and punch the stupid machine to see how strong you are.

My current boss of the time could do a roundhouse kick. Unassuming little Asian dude and I am not big and this guy could take your fucking head off with a roundhouse kick. And anybody's head another foot taller. He broke that machine. He could be reading this. I'm not saying his name.

This is Manhattan. If you meet an associate that has traveled from any other location to Manhattan to learn or to go to a meeting and they are someone of any value to you, your career, or just your social circle within the company, use the credit card to take them out and have fun.

The above roundhouse kicker gave me that card.

Oh, he created that job for me. 10 years before that he was a sysadmin running my Unix systems along with another few admins. I teamed them up so brilliant individuals could tag team.

He learned for a couple years, went back to get his MBA, rocketed through the ranks of Merrill Lynch, and took over the world. Then he created a job for me. That's how it works.

Back to credit cards.

In most cases when I did this, the person would turn around and say no problem. I'll put it on my credit card. Let's go. Have fun.

House fire. Growing mushroom arrest. jail. Pumping gas.

Just a little distracting.

Okay, I'm giving you a hell of a circle around of my life there. So my general attitude to anybody I'm speaking to face-to-face is:

If I am of enough value to continue the conversation for you, you must accommodate an extra second between the passing of the words between the people. There must be a lag, a hesitation, to allow me to respond.

Other than that, I can't.

The flip side of that is I can baffle them with brilliance. And when the brilliance runs out rather quickly I can baffle them with bullshit.

Not on purpose. It's just I've rehearsed so many different conversations and answers to questions before that moment and ran through so many goddamn different patterns of what WOULD I say here, it gets to the point where I've got paragraphs.

My vocabulary for those types of conversations are paragraphs. They're three or four paragraphs long. That'll string together a point and I will rapid fire them. I will slam that down into that person.

If I'm doing this in a professional presentation they love it. Holy shit. This guy knows everything. That's part of my professional dance monkey dance history.

If I'm doing it one-on-one, it's kind of like you've just been attacked by a machine gun and I have to stand back and say I'm sorry.

So don't worry about any of the communication difficulties in this type of context. You get all the time you want. You can always step back and think about stuff. You can formulate. You can come back when you're comfortable.

Take care
 
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Here's the tricone shot. Hopefully the resolution is good enough.

All brown falls off to reveal green.

It was very damp in 90% and it while definitely had some dry buds, I might have snapped them on a previous movement. They fade out in a couple of days. And when I say buds I really mean about 2 in of segments.

So am I burning it simply because the inside of flowers never see the Sun and this is something we've ever seen before?

Was I was giving it the appropriate amount because I'm trying to shove as much light as deep as I can because it is truly that thick and spongy.

Am I giving it too much water because it feels so damp? Or am I giving it just enough because of this incredible growth?

Yeah this thing will go moldy or this thing will do something horrible when something gets pushed too far.

Okay I'm still keeping it half lights and no UV for a week. I'm going to back off on the watering a little though.

I think the tips will grow a little bit further than they normally do. I think they'll feel that less light and tried to stretch toward it as opposed to simply feeling enough or too much light and saying screw you. I'm going to grow straight up because that's what gravity tells me to do.

When I have what is obviously what is overwhelming light they grow a flat face as they can and then go straight up.

In the last week you can see they've rounded out which means they are filling out evenly, which means they never hit the maximum light level.

Yet we were feeling it was too much light because it seemed like I'm burning the hell out of it due to the interior of exposed flowers being brown.

I think we're going back to because no one's ever seen it before. We're crap shooting it and it really doesn't matter. It's going to go bad, it's an experimental plant, accepted and move on.

I will add more air flow. There is the concept of the overhead square fans sucking through, but it's not concentrated on the plant itself and therefore when it gets dense it's going to trigger some pushback. I need focused air flow into the dead spots as well as the total sweep through.

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TestTime showed me this thread, so I decided to drop in.

I've known TestTime for close to 30 years, and can basically confirm his whole crazy backstory. Including having gone from a VP in the finance industry, to a felon after the fire department found what was in his house. I can't directly confirm some details, such as MMDA -> empathy. But overall, if you enjoyed his stories, go back and enjoy them again. This time knowing that they are true.

Who am I? I'm Ben Tilly. btilly on Hacker News and Stack Overflow. Back when Perl was big, I was tilly on Perlmonks - the top rated poster there. (vroom had more XP, but he gave that to himself when he created the forum.) If anyone wishes to confirm that I'm me, just drop an email to [email protected].

I'm also the guy who was living in New York that TestOne went and visited. The one who talked about A's, B's, and C's. But why is that true? It is called cognitive dissonance. When people want to be good at something, they work hard and learn. Then they convince themselves that they are good. Once that becomes part of their identity, it's a blow to their ego to encounter contrary evidence. So they stop finding ways to improve. Which means that they stop improving. And they also like being surrounded with people who confirm that they are good. Guess what? That's your typical B! Started with some talent, got somewhere, declared themselves king of their local dung heap, and stagnated.

If you want to become an A, see Ten Commandments of Egoless Programming. That appeared in a blog by one of the founders of the top programming Q&A site out there. The advice in it is from The Psychology of Computer Programming. Which is where I learned about it. My boss recommended that book to me. And I read his recommends because he was a far better programmer than I could hope to be.

Back to TestTime. I've known him since the late 90s. He was a character even back then. I found him a great technical resource, and a really fun friend. Would I trust him? Only within the limits of the whole functioning sociopath thing. I'd trust him to set up my database. I wouldn't trust him with my wife.

What does functioning sociopath really mean? Here is an example. His ex-wife got jealous and accused him of having an affair. Wouldn't let go of it. He wasn't having an affair. But he figured, "If I'm going to do the time, I might as well do the crime." One thing lead to another, and he wound up with a mistress and a batch of kids. In one of his posts he said that he raised two families. What he didn't mention is that he was raising them at the same time!

Now what about this plant? That I can't confirm directly. I've never seen it. I don't grow. I don't even use. (Alcohol is more my thing, but I gave that up because it is unhealthy.)

But in all the time I've known him, I've never seen TestTime blow smoke up anyone's ass. It's not that he ever had any objection to lying. But he's the kind of asshole who knows how to take advantage of a reputation for honesty. And so he maintains his among the people who know him.

Has he done way too many drugs? Does he get into manic states? Has he royally fucked up his life? Absolutely yes to all of that. But I would also bet my life that he believes that this plant does exactly what he says it does. I wouldn't bet against him. Given what I know about the operation that got him put in jail, I'm not surprised that he'd try something like this.

So yes. TestTime was a damned good programmer back in the day. He's been everything from sysadmin to VP to felon in jail. He has a ton of crazy stories, and they're all true. He's generally been a good judge of what he does and does not know. And he's always been willing to dive in and try things.

I now return those who are reading this thread to their scheduled entertainment.
 
Back to the entertainment. Note on paranoia.

For the future, assume all voice communication over any electronic media whatsoever is monitored, categorized, stored and able to be retrieved in a blink. Continuously correlated with everything else we do.

We are way beyond thinking we can make a phone call safely privately. There is no such thing as private communications anymore unless they are face-to-face.

Get over it.

In particular, I am a felon who is in a position to impact a multi-billion dollar industry. I've already publicly announced. You can be sure people are tracking me down right now.

Those people have power. I'm going to be as open and honest and skate as lightly as I can in this environment. I'm swimming with sharks of immense power. I know this.

Keep that in mind. There can be no illegality of any sort associated with this, nor can you ever expect not to have that level of monitoring possible in your life.

Enjoy the paranoia. I swim in it.

Take care
 
5 gallon bucket. Easily fills one and a half of these. And this is not fluffy sativa. This is dense thick worms.

I say I easily end up with at least two if not three of these in a month.

Start doing the math. 0.66 cubic feet in a 5 gallon bucket.

There's a few ranges out there for what it would weigh individually, you can have fun with that.

I'm very satisfied with my initial gut feel of 10 lb a month ago. I stand by it.

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Strictly pics. Have a happy heart attack.
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Detail.

White, Tan, brown growth is the best growth in the world.

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Now this might be worth spending on money on a few more fans. Get a few more of these little air pushers.

Pedestal or hanging or whatever. I can feed the 6-in tubes but I'd like them to be a little tighter. Maybe I'll make them 4-in tubes.

Or a central fan pushing through a multi-port distribution unit which I can whip up in about an hour. Yeah, that'll be it. I have lots of fans that can start as the pressure point. That's cardboard and duct tape.

I'm not sure if I threw out all my old 6-in tubing in a fit of pique or if I just compressed them and shoved them away but I probably won't be able to find them. That'll be an Amazon order.

On the other hand, I have my air distribution exhaust system from my carpentry stuff that I can steal for a while. I'll track that down. Except that's dark. No I can't use that.

Half a dozen of these in is in focused spots as close to the center as I can get without blocking light or leaf tip travel. Good luck on that.

It'll end up looking like a borg. I don't mind.

Those dense spots will not go moldy if I can help it.

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Not enough fun to justify the time and not doing something else. Build versus buy decision.

Buy

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TestTime, I know you swim in paranoia. But I think you're overestimating the industry.

First of all, yes. I've read Snowden. I'm well aware of where a decade of Palantir et al likely has taken the technology. The system that you describe almost certainly exists.

But remember that the people in charge are adverse to personally following US citizens. Yeah, yeah. They outsource monitoring Americans to the other 4 of the 5 eyes, then can get a warrant if they're told that someone is of interest. And I'm sure that there is cheating. This is not the same as direct mass surveillance.

And while the system exists and is abusable, there is a question of access. Does Donald Trump have access? Absolutely! Does the pot industry? Pretty unlikely.

But what if they did? Remember, you can count on a lot of institutional stupidity. Big companies tend to wind up run by smart people who are better at climbing the ladder, than recognizing unexpected threats. Go read The Innovator's Dilemma to see how routinely industries get blindsided by something that doesn't fit their business model. The follow-up The Innovator's Solution explains a lot of the internal corporate dynamics that enforces that stupidity.

Unfortunately the same kind of stupidity also afflicts the VC industry. VCs are generally much better at evaluating people than tech. Nobody wants to be the one who pulls the trigger on an investment. Nobody wants to be left out of a promising deal. Right now you have an interesting plant. I wouldn't bet on a VC correctly evaluating the resulting opportunity.

As Paul Graham has said, opportunity exists at the intersection of "not stupid" and "sounds stupid". Which means that all good startup ideas sound stupid. If it didn't sound stupid, someone would be doing it. If it is stupid, it won't work.

Your idea boils down to, "grow marijuana with months of full-time effort per plant." This certainly sounds stupid. But suppose that, after crashing current prices by a significant factor, you're trading a year of of someone's full time work for 8 plants, each worth $50,000. That wouldn't be stupid. (Yeah, I know. You think that what you have from one plant is worth a lot more than that. I'm just throwing made-up numbers out there.)

Next, for this to become a big business, how do you scale? You're thinking of how to go to industrial scale. But give serious thought to distributing it instead.

Why? Here are some reasons.

First, cooling. When you pack heat producing things in a volume, the heat goes up as length cubed. But heat dissipated goes up as length squared. That makes big volumes intrinsically harder to cool than small ones. Sure, there are tricks for cooling big volumes. Data centers have to do it. But one of the key tricks is allow the volume to get really hot, because hot things are easier to cool. That's fine for a volume of computers. Not so much for a volume of plants.

Second, disease. Diseases love factory farming operations. It's perfect for breeding better diseases, then wiping out whole factory farms. That's what has been happening to our supply of eggs. The economics still work out if you're trying to get a small number of workers to take care of a maximum number of animals. But given how your costs are dominated by human labor, optimizing your other costs per plant doesn't make as much sense. And spreading plants out is a simple way to avoid mass disease.

Third, convenient workers. A lot of people want to live in cheap countryside. But there aren't a lot of jobs for them. If you can move the work to the workers, you get access to a cheap labor force.

Fourth, you have to solve fewer problems to start. You already know how to do a grow inside of a residential space. Scaling that out means that you don't have to figure out how to scale it up before you get going. Even if you later decide that scaling it up is the right way to go, you can still get started now.

Are there problems with this model? Of course! For example employee fraud. But do consider it as an option.
 
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