Hope you Front Range folks are safe!

putembk · Sep 29, 2013

Agree JR, with the earth warming severe weather patterns seem to be more common world wide. Always though Colorado was fairly safe but with fires as common as they are and now this. Don't forget we had a 500 year spring runoff 2 years ago as well. My Grand County crawl space was flooded for over a month and I had 2 sump and one surface pumps going as fast as they could. Could be in for a rough winter if this weather pattern doesn't change.

ttystikk · Sep 29, 2013

Johnny Redthumb said:
was trying to find info on the floods in this thread, but its all solar panels and subsidies.

i am just getting back to reality and internet after these floods. i lost a lot, only managed to save a few moms and my outdoor garden. evacuation centers are no fun. i was in one of the hardest hit areas. hope everyone else faired well. i don't think my indoor garden will be fired up until at least december :-(

Wow dude, I'm really sorry to hear it. Living in the Fort it's like nothing happened, so it's easy to forget. I've been through floods, hurricanes, blizzards and earthquakes. Flooding is among the worst, because shit is either gone completely or damaged beyond immediate use- and that includes the house.

sky high · Sep 30, 2013

Bummer about yer shit, JR. Didn't ya just move here? (or am I in my regular confusion again?) You've had it rough of late. hope things right themselves for ya soon.

To me....that >500 year< shit is just that. Dunno who made up the term but they sure don't live in Colorado.

And I don't know if it's all getting more common or that we are just so connected that >every< detail of >every< event is reported. In the >old days< an area could be devasted and all there would be in the newspaper was a small blurb....and possibly...if all went well or someone of note lived nearby...a picture would be included. Different shit today with >everyone< connected and snapping pics/vids/etc.

Gotta wonder what "Winter" will hold in store....huh?

muir · Sep 30, 2013

Johnny Redthumb said:
i'm nowhere near a river. people in Boulder county got flooded out that werent even near the river. sewer mains filled up and took out entire blocks of neighborhoods, houses that wernt even in the flood plains or river basins. people in drake, glen haven, hygene, pinewood, lyons, and jamestown have been through this before and all the old timers knew this was coming. build on the river and down in narrow canyons, and you will lose everything. but some people werent even anywhere near the rivers.

also, all the natural flowing undamed rivers had minor flooding at best. i would still live up poudre canyon anyday of my life, but all the damned (pun intended) rivers are trouble and will continue to cause problems as long as we choose to fight nature and hold back all that water. just like the 76 flood, hwy 34 and the big thompson watershed were the hardest hit areas. cuz us humans keep fuking with the natural order of things. rivers flood naturally, but a 20ft wall of water rushing down lefthand canyon are not nature, they are man made dams that breached.

they say its a 1000 year event, i'm willing to bet it will happen again in 30 or 40 years.

I'm in Ned, holler if you need cuts or other help

Johnny Redthumb · Sep 30, 2013

muir said:
I'm in Ned, holler if you need cuts or other help

Thanks muir. I think getting to Ned from here is like a 4 hour drive one-way right now. I've been craving some homemade bread from Meadow Mountain cafe in Allenspark, which is usually a short drive for me, now its an entire days mission. Thanks again!

And no sky, I think you confused me for someone else. I have been in this time zone since before the first green rush, and long enough to consider myself a Coloradan and to the extent of others labeling me a "mountain person" (no I don't have any of those stickers on my car).

ttystikk · Sep 30, 2013

Cut some chunks out of a few canyon roads and things get downright inconvenient. I have a lot of respect for our forebears, who did so much BY HAND.

Johnny Redthumb · Oct 1, 2013

just found out that my well has e. coli and coliforms bacteria. good thing my plants don't care. i've never had to shock chlorinate a well before. pretty shitty if you ask me. literally. oh and FEMA could careless. guess I don't pay into the gov't, I shouldn't expect anything out of em.

Dopegeist · Oct 1, 2013

Johnny Redthumb said:
i'm nowhere near a river. people in Boulder county got flooded out that werent even near the river. sewer mains filled up and took out entire blocks of neighborhoods, houses that wernt even in the flood plains or river basins. people in drake, glen haven, hygene, pinewood, lyons, and jamestown have been through this before and all the old timers knew this was coming. build on the river and down in narrow canyons, and you will lose everything. but some people werent even anywhere near the rivers.

also, all the natural flowing undamed rivers had minor flooding at best. i would still live up poudre canyon anyday of my life, but all the damned (pun intended) rivers are trouble and will continue to cause problems as long as we choose to fight nature and hold back all that water. just like the 76 flood, hwy 34 and the big thompson watershed were the hardest hit areas. cuz us humans keep fuking with the natural order of things. rivers flood naturally, but a 20ft wall of water rushing down lefthand canyon are not nature, they are man made dams that breached.

they say its a 1000 year event, i'm willing to bet it will happen again in 30 or 40 years.

I was watching the public tv channel when I lived in boulder, late at night. This guy was showing all the flooding and watershed drafts...Basically ALL of Boulder is a floodplain. Diversions, damming aside....Still a flood plain.
But I see what you're saying about the sewers....Nice.

ttystikk · Oct 1, 2013

Dopegeist said:
I was watching the public tv channel when I lived in boulder, late at night. This guy was showing all the flooding and watershed drafts...Basically ALL of Boulder is a floodplain. Diversions, damming aside....Still a flood plain.
But I see what you're saying about the sewers....Nice.

Boulder did not plan or build for a flood like this- and they did have plenty of warning. They simply choose not to. Ft Collins, on the other hand, built an award winning flood control plan, had it wiped out in 1997- and then built it again, to withstand what turned out to be a storm I've seen happen every few years somewhere up and down the Front Range; a 12" rain in three hours or less. Just like this one.

Ft Collins didn't just 'get lucky'. Boulder wasn't merely 'unfortunate'. One city was PREPARED, the other was not. Hold your local public officials and city engineering department accountable for their choices!

In my case, I'm telling the world how well Ft Collins did- because they EARNED it!

Dopegeist · Oct 1, 2013

Boulder has known about this since the last time Canyon really flooded. In the 70's? They even had some concerned scientist citizens there trying, ya know trying to explain it to the panel like they are a six-year-old, but maybe now they'll listen.

ttystikk · Oct 1, 2013

putembk said:
Agree JR, with the earth warming severe weather patterns seem to be more common world wide. Always though Colorado was fairly safe but with fires as common as they are and now this. Don't forget we had a 500 year spring runoff 2 years ago as well. My Grand County crawl space was flooded for over a month and I had 2 sump and one surface pumps going as fast as they could. Could be in for a rough winter if this weather pattern doesn't change.

The only safe place on Earth is in your grave. That was the thought in my mind as I watched my grandmother's last moments, in her case a peaceful end to a long and proud life.

I'm okay with Colorado's mix of disaster potentials, because at least here it is possible to plan and build to effectively protect oneself. Pick high ground to avoid floods, build a cellar for tornadoes, a big pantry and such for blizzards, keep your yard chopped back against wildfire. Not too hard for those who put in a modicum of forethought...

ttystikk · Oct 1, 2013

Dopegeist said:
Boulder has known about this since the last time Canyon really flooded. In the 70's? They even had some concerned scientist citizens there trying, ya know trying to explain it to the panel like they are a six-year-old, but maybe now they'll listen.

Exactly my point. Building the city library OVER the river in a flood plain? Only in Boulder... 200 square miles, surrounded by reality.

Dopegeist · Oct 1, 2013

But what a cool library!
:)

ttystikk · Oct 1, 2013

Dopegeist said:
But what a cool library!
:)

Yeah, just keep the archives and research materials off site. Which kind of defeats the purpose?

Agreed, it's a great space. Building a library full of books in a floodplain remains a prime example of Boulder city planning, however.

Texas Kid · Oct 4, 2013

Big up to all my outdoor gamblers!! I woke up to snow on the ground and wind but no hard freeze so i am thinkin a skated damage so far...goin to be trimmin and hangin all day to beat tonights hard freeze, only 100lbs to go....LONG LIVE THE FIGHTER!!!

stickyfing3rs · Oct 4, 2013

100 lbs in one day tk? damn,big up to you!

Texas Kid said:
Big up to all my outdoor gamblers!! I woke up to snow on the ground and wind but no hard freeze so i am thinkin a skated damage so far...goin to be trimmin and hangin all day to beat tonights hard freeze, only 100lbs to go....LONG LIVE THE FIGHTER!!!

chickenman · Oct 4, 2013

Texas Kid said:
Big up to all my outdoor gamblers!! I woke up to snow on the ground and wind but no hard freeze so i am thinkin a skated damage so far...goin to be trimmin and hangin all day to beat tonights hard freeze, only 100lbs to go....LONG LIVE THE FIGHTER!!!

So how do you do such a quanity???

Texas Kid · Oct 4, 2013

Twister and a ton of help from some committed mofos....we are shootin to get it down, processed, and moved offsite for drying and curing before the sun comes up in the morning...I had to do this same thing a few years ago and it sucks but we gutted it out anyways, no rest for the wicked....I know we all gamble doin what we do but my outdoor brothers that put plants in the ground and gamble on the weather....well, that is like sittin at the last table and goin all in with a fat stack in Texas hold'm....trimmin in blowin snow is no joke boooooiiiiiii

I'm off to it, see ya on the other side

Hope you Front Range folks are safe!

Hope you Front Range folks are safe!

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