Savage Henry
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Good question.
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I Have looked everywhere. The closest I came to an answer was given in the form of 5 questions for a final answer of... it depends !
Hahahaha. That was directly from EYE.
Maybe the answer is in Hi
ary ©linT️N's missing emails!
Hahahaha. That was directly from EYE.
Maybe the answer is in Hi
ary ©linT️N's missing emails!
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All completely valid points. But study after study, in different publications , they do a "Pepsi challenge" on the age old question...
Who makes the best _____?(fill in the blank with ANY piece of equipment or nutrient).
With bulbs, many have reported on it with respectable detail. You can get umol info for all the competitors, its like it's friggin guarded by the Illuninati. It's in the same safe as The Arc of the Covenant, Pandoras Box, and Monte Python's Holy Grail.
Who makes the best _____?(fill in the blank with ANY piece of equipment or nutrient).
With bulbs, many have reported on it with respectable detail. You can get umol info for all the competitors, its like it's friggin guarded by the Illuninati. It's in the same safe as The Arc of the Covenant, Pandoras Box, and Monte Python's Holy Grail.
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So...
Using Hortilux bulbs are like getting a lawyer.
Never shop from the discount rack. Pay the $. It pays dividends.
There's new stuff coming out every day. Yesterday an equipment broker showed me a HPS bulb that has the same lumins as a Hortilux and the almost equal umols to any of the top DE's (2100 umols). I think Gavs is 2100-2400. That's what sparked my curiosity.
Using Hortilux bulbs are like getting a lawyer.
Never shop from the discount rack. Pay the $. It pays dividends.
There's new stuff coming out every day. Yesterday an equipment broker showed me a HPS bulb that has the same lumins as a Hortilux and the almost equal umols to any of the top DE's (2100 umols). I think Gavs is 2100-2400. That's what sparked my curiosity.
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Thx for the input brutha.
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Happy belated Thanksgiving to you and your family
This bud's for you
This bud's for you
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Agree with all that the your saying. Gavita DE has the most 
in the positive column. I really appreciate your POV based on your experience, experimentation and the lab setting. Speaks volumes.
My analytics are waaaay more archaic but that's more of a current financial variable.
You fix the things you can. Right now that's a 1000w HPS bulb. Hortilux has been the clear leader for awhile. Gavita is industry leader now but for working with what I got, its Hortilux. So this new bulb from Germany has the same lumens as a Hortilux but also close to comparable umol output as a DE. But no bulb has really given Hortilux a run for the $. And right now $ has a significant effect on decision making.
Disclaimer: I am not promoting any of the products I'm talking about. Just trying to be better. Efficiency should breed success.
in the positive column. I really appreciate your POV based on your experience, experimentation and the lab setting. Speaks volumes. My analytics are waaaay more archaic but that's more of a current financial variable.
You fix the things you can. Right now that's a 1000w HPS bulb. Hortilux has been the clear leader for awhile. Gavita is industry leader now but for working with what I got, its Hortilux. So this new bulb from Germany has the same lumens as a Hortilux but also close to comparable umol output as a DE. But no bulb has really given Hortilux a run for the $. And right now $ has a significant effect on decision making.
Disclaimer: I am not promoting any of the products I'm talking about. Just trying to be better. Efficiency should breed success.
JSmokes420
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Savage Henry
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dennis001
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Hortilux 1000w SE and DE 1960umol/s , compare with Philips DE. the 660nm red light just half. See my report
http://www.linkedin.com/pulse/high-par-vs-lumens-hps-lamp-dennis-yang?trk=mp-reader-card
Gavita DE made by USHIO, 2100umol/s but 28% blue light rate, Philips standard 30%
Most of ther brands are from China, those DE are not real, as my report said those cheap ones just made by street lighting burner, spend same power but half effective.
Currently only my company can make it better than Philips, but those cheap ones only cost half of real one, distributors willing to purchase cheap ones to fool end users.
JSmokes420
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The original gavita bulbs were made by Phillips just an FYI
Philips discontinued making the bulb because they didn't want to be associated with the marijuana culture.
dennis001
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That's true, EYE don't know the differences between real grow light and street light, the comparison test from Utah State University just between Philips DE and Hortilux SE in my report above.
JSmokes420
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The original Gavita bulbs that had the word Gavita stamped on the were rebranded Phillips "Green Power". Phillips no longer makes that bulb at all...... discontinued.....that was the real reason for the switch.....I know because I had some of the first to ever come out.....been running DE for over 10yrs
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dennis001
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The Netherlands new law on 2013 stopped Philips supply grow light to Cannabis market. In order to avoid trouble, Gavita have to switch the supplier. But how Netherlands GOV know we buy greenpower DE for greenhouse or indoor grow? It is easy to say but hard to control it.
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