House and garden nutrients Soil a/b

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I made the switch to house and garden Soil a/b line. I dont exactly know how to feel about to progress of my plants. So let me give you a rundown. Ive been following the feed schedule almost to the T. I slowly started ramping my plants up as I just started with new product line to the recommended dosage.

The only thing i was subbing out was the amino treatment for protekt silica and some floralious plus. Anyways At week 2 I started using Hammerhead by advanced that is a 2-4-10. When i feed I use 1 gallon nutes 1 gallon compost tea. I continue to follow the schedule im on the 10 week cycle. add the budxl week 5 and then add top booster for 2-3 days in week 6. i just started week 7 and dropped my nutes and feed 1 gallon of hammerhead/moab combo instead of shooting powder and 1 gallon compost tea.

now what worries me is how long its taking the plants to start to fill it. I have plants where they have bottom nugs but the tops have barely started to fill in or start to show pistils. I called house and garden a few times worried and they just told me that there product takes longer to ramp up instead of trying to induce flowers before its ready. I understand on the 10 week schedule it doesn't even call for flower nutes until week 5. could that be why ive gotten so much leaf growth up top? i still see lime green growth up top. Im afraid i may have used too strong A/B by following the schedule. Im running 3 strains and all 3 are showing the same signs of leaf growth. ive grown them before and its not normal. i read what bud xl says how it stops focusing energy on leaf growth and starts with flower growth. 4 weeks into flower seems awhile to be focusing on leaf growth. Anyhow i have 3 weeks left and then im at 10 weeks. things have been really slow bud wise so far but things are ramping up everyday.

I have 10 1000watt lights and 10 400watt cmh bulbs and y room stays 80 degrees so it not heat, light leak, or lights being off.

Any insight Farmers. Ive read as my threads as I can, and i just havent been seeing people have thee issues.

Cubby
 
cheaplastic

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hard to diagnose things without misleading you. could be so many things. all i can say is, good luck bro. 10 lights is a real steep learning curve
 
spacebomb

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damn,advanced LOVE PISSING ABOUT WITH THEIR NUMBERS.hammerheads a p.k booster!lol. it used to be 9/18!then 2/5! now its got a # for ,N, aswell??..omg.haha.ive STILL GOT 10,litres of the old9/18.still .oh + bigbud is an amino aswell.dear ass company. h+g,s SHOOTING POWDER,Is actually reAlly amazing.i used it at a quarter dose ONLY1 TIME + DAMN I COULDA PULLED UP A CHAIR IT STARTED TO SWELL,SWELL,IN FRONT OF MY EYES!no shit.its just the taste it leaves a sketchy chemy taste.
good luck
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I made the switch to house and garden Soil a/b line. I dont exactly know how to feel about to progress of my plants. So let me give you a rundown. Ive been following the feed schedule almost to the T. I slowly started ramping my plants up as I just started with new product line to the recommended dosage.

The only thing i was subbing out was the amino treatment for protekt silica and some floralious plus. Anyways At week 2 I started using Hammerhead by advanced that is a 2-4-10. When i feed I use 1 gallon nutes 1 gallon compost tea. I continue to follow the schedule im on the 10 week cycle. add the budxl week 5 and then add top booster for 2-3 days in week 6. i just started week 7 and dropped my nutes and feed 1 gallon of hammerhead/moab combo instead of shooting powder and 1 gallon compost tea.

now what worries me is how long its taking the plants to start to fill it. I have plants where they have bottom nugs but the tops have barely started to fill in or start to show pistils. I called house and garden a few times worried and they just told me that there product takes longer to ramp up instead of trying to induce flowers before its ready. I understand on the 10 week schedule it doesn't even call for flower nutes until week 5. could that be why ive gotten so much leaf growth up top? i still see lime green growth up top. Im afraid i may have used too strong A/B by following the schedule. Im running 3 strains and all 3 are showing the same signs of leaf growth. ive grown them before and its not normal. i read what bud xl says how it stops focusing energy on leaf growth and starts with flower growth. 4 weeks into flower seems awhile to be focusing on leaf growth. Anyhow i have 3 weeks left and then im at 10 weeks. things have been really slow bud wise so far but things are ramping up everyday.

I have 10 1000watt lights and 10 400watt cmh bulbs and y room stays 80 degrees so it not heat, light leak, or lights being off.

Any insight Farmers. Ive read as my threads as I can, and i just havent been seeing people have thee issues.

Cubby
 
spacebomb

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oh i never thaught thiat mate eh!.its VERY CLEAR ur a pro.damn,10,000, watts of light!fk me!lol. ur like freaking KING KONG TO ME + MY 680WATTS BRO:-)LOL goodluck man.i hope youll maybee show some pics:-)?!.. if ur able. i love them big rooms like uv got.hell if it wernt for people like u i would of NEVER even picked my 1.2.tent up.its hideous.BUT REALLY TO ME.HAVING EVEN THAT IS A BIG LIFE CHANGER.i mean i wont lie+say im ripping the 5+600,g,s a meter.NOT EVEN CLOSE!maybee thats cos i mostly grow from seeds eh. but what i do get is ,mostly, organic,98% ish,.+ it does me eh.im not growing for anyone else.so yeah its tight but? hell i live in a flat so its smAll. no tent to me,means no grow.
This isnt my first grow, Ive been growing for about 5 years. This is my first run with house and garden
 
cubby

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When do peoples buds start forming that are using H&G? Remember im using the 10 week schedule. thanks for your time farmers
 
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  • Whats up cubby? Hope all is well with you.
  • I have seen Cubby's work, he does a fine job at what he does.
  • hit me up sometime.
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pussOGbrah

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When do peoples buds start forming that are using H&G? Remember im using the 10 week schedule. thanks for your time farmers

Nutes shouldnt really affect this, genetics are more important in determining when buds start forming unless u use pgrs or big pk early flower...

Honestly i think H&G blows. Their coco nutes npk are totally unbalanced and i had defeciencies (ca, phos) and pale leaves when i used cocos a/b once.. Went back to the tried and true GH 3 part but kept drip clean in the lineup. Was religously using drip clean for years, dropped it a few cycles back, and my plants have never looked better. It doesnt do anything for salts or improve taste, at least in coco..So yeah those experiences made me write off H&G. Maybe its good for roses i dont kno.

Ill never use any of their products again but roots excel is OK, but i like rapid start better. Amino treatment looks OK as well and i've seen chron grown with it as a supp, but like your doing, seems easily replaced with the floralicious/protekt combo
 
cubby

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Nutes shouldnt really affect this, genetics are more important in determining when buds start forming unless u use pgrs or big pk early flower...

Honestly i think H&G blows. Their coco nutes npk are totally unbalanced and i had defeciencies (ca, phos) and pale leaves when i used cocos a/b once.. Went back to the tried and true GH 3 part but kept drip clean in the lineup. Was religously using drip clean for years, dropped it a few cycles back, and my plants have never looked better. It doesnt do anything for salts or improve taste, at least in coco..So yeah those experiences made me write off H&G. Maybe its good for roses i dont kno.

Ill never use any of their products again but roots excel is OK, but i like rapid start better. Amino treatment looks OK as well and i've seen chron grown with it as a supp, but like your doing, seems easily replaced with the floralicious/protekt combo



The combo of House and Garden Nutes along with all the supplemental blue light i have has for sure given me a much leafier product. it has focussed a lot of energy on leaf production instead of bud development
 
Smokey503ski

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Which soil are you using in the first place?

When I was running H&G Coco I was killing it. Never tried there soil line up so can't offer advice on it.

Out of all the soil I used, I found that Blackjack was the easiest and turned out the best overall. It what I was using back in the day when Big Blue was around. I did the Blackberry in it and that was pretty nice.
Are you amending your own soil or just out of the bag stuff? If your amending it, what with?
 

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