House and garden or botanicare?

natedowg2000 · Feb 13, 2024

Looking to change nutrients I think I've narrowed down to either the botanicare KIND series or the house and garden aqua flakes, just checking in here to see if anyone has Input on these?

I can get a great deal on house and garden right now so I was leaning more that way just due to the pricing. 5L of both A and B for like $50 or 20L each for total $103 plus shipping or gas to drive there.

Do nutrients go bad?
So if I get the 20L I don't want to waste 15L cause it went bad, only running 4 plants currently.

natedowg2000 · Feb 13, 2024

@ACSippi

ACSippi · Feb 14, 2024

Let me look real quick...

You gotta check with the manufacturer about expiration. I asked General Hydroponics a long time ago and they said theirs never expire if stored properly. I buy 5 gallons of bloom and I've had it for years now, will have it for a lot more years too lol.

ACSippi · Feb 14, 2024

OMG! That Botanicare Kind is poisonous! Wear a hazmat suit! That's all I saw, I didn't look any further for any other information.

Aqua flakes isn't the type of Nutrients you're looking for. It's made to be used with PGRs. That's a hella no-no. Worse than Botanicare!

natedowg2000 · Feb 14, 2024

ACSippi said:
OMG! That Botanicare Kind is poisonous! Wear a hazmat suit! That's all I saw, I didn't look any further for any other information.

Aqua flakes isn't the type of Nutrients you're looking for. It's made to be used with PGRs. That's a hella no-no. Worse than Botanicare!

Well just checking the house and garden page answered my expiration question, missed that blatantly obvious sentence at the end.

How do you tell its made to be used with PGR's, theyre disclaimer said no synthetic PGR's, dye, or heavy metals. Link below.

Aqua Flakes A&B - House & Garden

AQUA FLAKES A&BTwo-part base nutrient designed for recirculating hydroponic systemsHouse & Garden Aqua Flakes is the complete base nutrient formulated specifically for recirculating systems. Aqua Flakes A & Aqua Flakes B are ideal for expanded clay, mineral wool, deep water culture (DWC)...

house-garden.us

ACSippi · Feb 14, 2024

Ya gotta be careful with salesmen, anything in the weed world for that matter...I see metals too...

natedowg2000 · Feb 14, 2024

ACSippi said:
Ya gotta be careful with salesmen, anything in the weed world for that matter...I see metals too...

Thanks,

I think the multi-zen below is what it's referring to for the stimulant, looks like it contains ammonium nitrate, nitric acid, and potassium hydroxide. Based in the SDS sheet.

House & Garden Multi Zen | HTG Supply

Multi Zen by House and Garden is an additive used to promote vigorous growth in rapidly growing plants. Multi Zen is designed to be used during the first three weeks of the flowering phase. Multi Zen helps to strengthen your plant's immune system as well as dispose of residuals in the substrate.

www.htgsupply.com

House & Garden Top Booster | HTG Supply

Top Booster by House and Garden is an additive that helps optimize the flowering cycle of your crop. Top Booster is a liquid designed to be used for 1 week 3-4 weeks before harvest. Top Booster contains potassium hydroxide and phosphoric acid anhydride.

www.htgsupply.com

House & Garden Bud XL | HTG Supply

Bud XL by House & Garden is an additive used to enhance flower quality in hydroponics and soil-growing plants. Bud XL is a proprietary blend of key nutrients such as nitrogen and potash that are water-soluble and immediately available to plants. Using Bud XL after the first few flowers are...

www.htgsupply.com

House & Garden Algen Extract | HTG Supply

Algen Extract by House and Garden in a root enhancing additive. Algen Extract is designed to be added during the growth phase for optimal root growth. Algen Extract contains a mix of sea kelp, Ammonium Nirtate, Nitric Acid, and potassium Hydroxide.(0.2-0-0.4)For use during growth phasePromotes...

www.htgsupply.com

Smokey0418 · Feb 14, 2024

ACSippi said:
OMG! That Botanicare Kind is poisonous! Wear a hazmat suit! That's all I saw, I didn't look any further for any other information.

Aqua flakes isn't the type of Nutrients you're looking for. It's made to be used with PGRs. That's a hella no-no. Worse than Botanicare!

I would think you will be able to find an msds for each fertilizer about it’s dangers.

Companys can’t be taking blame for folk drinking it or rubbing there rubber gloves in there eyes.

On a side note , Botanicare Kind has and still works great for me.

Zill · Feb 14, 2024

Man, those Botanicare folks got you by the short hairs.

Imagine that charging $51.00 1 gallon of 3-2-4, N-P-K. I’ll bet there is about $1.50 worth of salt in every gallon jug. Bunch of crap.

Amazon.com

natedowg2000 · Feb 14, 2024

Zill said:
Man, those Botanicare folks got you by the short hairs.

Imagine that charging $51.00 1 gallon of 3-2-4, N-P-K. I’ll bet there is about $1.50 worth of salt in every gallon jug. Bunch of crap.

Amazon.com

That's why I was looking at H&G due to the cost.

ACSippi · Feb 14, 2024

Smokey0418 said:
I would think you will be able to find an msds for each fertilizer about it’s dangers.

Companys can’t be taking blame for folk drinking it or rubbing there rubber gloves in there eyes.

On a side note , Botanicare Kind has and still works great for me.

Yeah a lot of stuff is poisonous, some isn't, if you check General Hydroponics M-f-g it's just nutrients, that's why they say it's 'beyond organic.' Any other additive is mostly gimmics, that's where a lot of the dangerous stuff comes from too.

Cannabis is the best plant in the world to clean the enviroment, they suck up anything with their roots, even metals and poisons. What you put into the rez gets uptaken by the plant.

HTG, I love that place, great company! They do sell anything tho and you gotta be careful what nutrient products you purchase. Cannabis only needs like 16 compounds to grow perfectly naturally but will uptake (don't quote me here) 200 compounds, maybe 518? I can't remember.

Poisonous stuff won't hurt you short term but what about long term? Nutrient companies will make what people want. Most ferts are made for other stuff, PGRs are for grass and succulents...to please our Eyes but work great in cannabis which we smoke (if eaten PGRs are a lot safer).

My point is, if cannabis only needs 16 things why add more?

Zill · Feb 14, 2024

Nate,

Buy dry powders and make it yourself. Never buy water and pay shipping on top of those ridiculous prices.

natedowg2000 · Feb 14, 2024

Zill said:
Nate,

Buy dry powders and make it yourself. Never buy water and pay shipping on top of those ridiculous prices.

Oof, my research on the dry side is zero, where should I start?

ACSippi · Feb 14, 2024

natedowg2000 said:
Oof, my research on the dry side is zero, where should I start?

Have you looked into GH? It's cheap, safe, doesnt expire, used by NASA, 'beyond organic,' and I can show you pics from years ago to today of beautiful buds grown strictly using the GH Trio and nothing else.

I'm all about keeping it simple for best results.

natedowg2000 · Feb 14, 2024

ACSippi said:
Have you looked into GH? It's cheap, safe, doesnt expire, used by NASA, 'beyond organic,' and I can show you pics from years ago to today of beautiful buds grown strictly using the GH Trio and nothing else.

I'm all about keeping it simple for best results.

I was just looking at them, the supplier I was looking at for H&G had the pretty pricey. I'm checking with a local supplier now.

natedowg2000 · Feb 14, 2024

ACSippi said:
Have you looked into GH? It's cheap, safe, doesnt expire, used by NASA, 'beyond organic,' and I can show you pics from years ago to today of beautiful buds grown strictly using the GH Trio and nothing else.

I'm all about keeping it simple for best results.

FloraNova series?

Captspaulding · Feb 14, 2024

@greenleafnutrients

Mega crop fertilizer
Sea kelp extract
And bud candy.

I use 3 things all grow.
It’s cheap. And brings the fire. Super versatile if you run a ton of different strains. And will feed an army of the same cultivar like nothing.
$18 per 3.5lb bag. I use 85 grams every 4 days. It lasts me longer than any bottles or nutrient line.

natedowg2000 · Feb 14, 2024

Zill said:
Nate,

Buy dry powders and make it yourself. Never buy water and pay shipping on top of those ridiculous prices

like NPK industries RAW line?
Or like Athena dry 10lb pre-mix?

BearWater · Feb 14, 2024

natedowg2000 said:
Oof, my research on the dry side is zero, where should I start?

check downtownclown here on the forum. Hes got a cool list, just to give you an idea. Research the shit at of that though : )

ACSippi · Feb 14, 2024

natedowg2000 said:
FloraNova series?

General Hyroponics Flora Series | HTG Supply

FLORA SERIES IS THE MOST WIDELY USED HYDROPONIC FERTILIZER IN THE WORLD BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST! GH Flora Series is the original Building-Block Nutrient System – imitated but never duplicated.Contains complete Primary, Secondary and Micro Nutrients –for enhanced yields and better crop quality.

www.htgsupply.com

If you're growing a couple plants this will last you months.

House and garden or botanicare?

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Aqua Flakes A&B - House & Garden

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House and garden or botanicare?

House and garden or botanicare?

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Aqua Flakes A&B - House & Garden

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House & Garden Multi Zen | HTG Supply

House & Garden Top Booster | HTG Supply

House & Garden Bud XL | HTG Supply

House & Garden Algen Extract | HTG Supply

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ACSippi

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ACSippi

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Captspaulding

What’s the matter? Don’t like clowns? 🤡

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BearWater

If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself?

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