Smokey0418
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Because Energizer keeps going and going.It looks like you figured out where the rooting hormone is. But if a toy comes with batteries included, why take the batteries out just to replace them with different batteries you buy seperately?
I get it, absolutely. I don't use any rooting hormone myself, not even willow tea. My success rate is great. Until I get to one of those plants that just doesn't clone easy. Other cuttings from different plants taken the same day, same tools, same technique, same enviornment right next to it root well, but it doesn't. Sometimes that just happens with some plants. There a rooting hormone, even willow tea may help if its an important project. With that plant, I take 4 cuttings if I need one. Where for other plants thats not necessary.Because Energizer keeps going and going.
But on a more serious note.Because Energizer keeps going and going.
Anyone find it yet?
Or will that technique remain one of those cannabis myths/superstitions parroted by blind imitation and flawed reasoning?
Now if I ever try this cloning bucket I made.I get it, absolutely. I don't use any rooting hormone myself, not even willow tea. My success rate is great. Until I get to one of those plants that just doesn't clone easy. Other cuttings from different plants taken the same day, same tools, same technique, same enviornment right next to it root well, but it doesn't. Sometimes that just happens with some plants. There a rooting hormone, even willow tea may help if its an important project. With that plant, I take 4 cuttings if I need one. Where for other plants thats not necessary.
I would actually use the rooting hormone like clonex for other applications in the garden.
Rooting hormone does work. I'm just not one to run and buy every product, especially when I prove to myself I don't need it. So that money stays in my pocket... where it should be. I have pets too. Is your rooting hormone pet safe?But on a more serious note.
When I was young my 86 year old mother now grew African violets.
She would always stim root before sticking them into her vermiculite filled cups.
So I just do it.
Now I find out , using rooting hormone
1- speeds up root development
2-improves success rate
3- encourages healthier more robust roots.
And 4 - reduces chance of rot by speeding the process up.
I knew mom was right.
As I previously stated, the strategy of cutting the leaves has nothing whatsoever to do with promoting root growth. It's a strategy for preventing leaf collapse while a cutting is going through the rooting process.
Do my leaves look collapsed in my photos bruh? No, It didn't happen. You know why?
The water/humidity trapped under that clear lid with the vents closed. When that moisture is all collected up on the walls of the lid... what do you think the relative humidity is in there? You think those leaves don't drink that water in there? You don't seem to grasp the basics of what leaves do or how.
Stop embarassing yourself and dig around for a valid credible source of information that trimming the leaf tips is better for cloning success rates and prove those overinflated egos of those well qualified idiots doing valid cannabis research and publishing in the scientific community that they don't know jack shit compared to you. If anyone is beyond learnin, its clearly you. You da man!
I don’t think so.You keep repeating whats been debunked already. Good old try try again, but yeah... as I also previously stated and shown. No leaf collapse is to be seen on my clones. Perhaps the difference comes down to the difference in quality of the genetics you use and the genetics I use.
Thats another good point to consider! Perhaps genetic quality matters in clonal propagation... ya think?
I trim some tips off my leaves because I have tons of them in a small space and I don't like leaves laying on top of one another. I have done both ways and I see no difference in % of rooted clones of speed of rooting. Plants want to liveGood point, if you're going to be cutting the tips off your clone leaves you ought to at least know why other than because thats what someone said to do. I'm not going to spoil what you're digging for, but I will tell you I cut my clone tips and I do it because it's the lesser of two evils. (That's a clue) I certainly understand and respect a Canadian's point of view on this. (Another clue).
Nice healthy dose of copium there bruh. Pure cope. Genetics matter, here as in with any other area of the botanical spectrum.I don’t think so.
If it’s healthy shit genetics it will root the same as the fire I get from seed.
Weeds grow like hell.
With ninja on this they look great with high humidity up top wont wont try as hard to make roots to preserve itself my last batch wouldn't root at all until I dropped humidity down and boom off to the racesAnd I'm telling you that you will shave several days off of your rooting time if you get them out from underneath that dome ilin 2-3 days. You're not really creating an optimum environment for fast rooting clones. You're offering up an environment that more perfectly preserves the cuts while it undergoes the rooting process. Both approaches will successfully produce clones... What are your cloning goals? Highest success? Fastest rooting? Preserving the most green? Depending on how you answer, you're going to approach cloning differently.
And even with the more stable environment under the dome, you're at greater risk of failure from high humidity rot pathogens, especially with no air circulating around underneath that dome.
You keep repeating whats been debunked already. Good old try try again, but yeah... as I also previously stated and shown. No leaf collapse is to be seen on my clones. Perhaps the difference comes down to the difference in quality of the genetics you use and the genetics I use.
Thats another good point to consider! Perhaps genetic quality matters in clonal propagation... ya think?
Its making sense. That plant that doesn't clone well.... is a polyhybrid. The plant thats easy and fast to clone is a f1-hybrid, the cross of 2 stabilized IBLs. And most of my cloning experience is based on high quality genetics like IBLs, simple close to origin crosses, not the generic and weak and overworked commercial junk. Makes a lot of sense because in comparison grows of the same polyhybrids alwsys lag behind and underperform in comparison to the IBLs and simple crosses.
I see now why so many here are experiencing much lower success rates and their clones need so much work and crutches,... it comes down to the quality issue.
With ninja on this they look great with high humidity up top wont wont try as hard to make roots to preserve itself my last batch wouldn't root at all until I dropped humidity down and boom off to the races, just what I've noticed and my 2 cents
You forgot to mention what type of genetics you are referring to. That is part of the basic info now to take into consideration. To need the use of crutches as added work techniques or not sort of points to the answer, but stating it clearly would be beneficial for transparency. Im assuming polyhybrid by default because thats what the market is flooded with, and betting on the generic is almost a sure shot. But not in all cases. There is always the 1% growing pure breds as the exception.With ninja on this they look great with high humidity up top wont wont try as hard to make roots to preserve itself my last batch wouldn't root at all until I dropped humidity down and boom off to the races, just what I've noticed and my 2 cents
As I was just mentioning, genetics matter here. When you are experiencing failures, adding expense of purchased products, putting in extra/added work on top of the very basic standard ...Some like it wet and some won't budge an inch until you pulse em. When I get one the first round is usually a fail and then I say aha, you're one of THOSE bitches
I dont buy from the "market"You forgot to mention what type of genetics you are referring to. That is part of the basic info now to take into consideration. To need the use of crutches as added work techniques or not sort of points to the answer, but stating it clearly would be beneficial for transparency. Im assuming polyhybrid by default because thats what the market is flooded with, and betting on the generic is almost a sure shot. But not in all cases. There is always the 1% growing pure breds as the exception.
Great format! You just forgot to mention if you use the polyhybrid type or something else. This has become valuable relevant info.I use
Clone kind aero cloner
About 2gal of ro water
Days 1-7 I use Hormex at 3ml per gal and clone x liquid not gel at 20ml per gal
Days 7-14 drop the hormex and just use clone x are 40ml per L
Ph to 5.8
Room temps 75/80F
Room rh around 60%
0 dome on the cloner
100% clone success so far
Roots start forming around day 6-8
And transplant around day 10
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