How much calmag should i add with my tap water

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Hey guys

Just thigh I'd update
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So I did this
Took my 80ppm tap water to 110ppm with calmag was ment be 100ppm ow well.
I added canna a&b and 2ml rootonic
I didn't add cannyzm this time
Total ppm in was 430 oh 5.8
Out was 600/700ppm ph was 5.6/5.7

I'm gonna feed again later
Take my Take water to 100ppm with calmag and feed 400pm a&not sure if u really need cannyzm right now
And I'm gonna oh to 6.0
 
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Ph 007 said:
Hey guys

Just thigh I'd update
Pics from today leaves look worst
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So I did this
Took my 80ppm tap water to 110ppm with calmag was ment be 100ppm ow well.
I added canna a&b and 2ml rootonic
I didn't add cannyzm this time
Total ppm in was 430 oh 5.8
Out was 600/700ppm ph was 5.6/5.7

I'm gonna feed again later
Take my Take water to 100ppm with calmag and feed 400pm a&not sure if u really need cannyzm right now
And I'm gonna oh to 6.0
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After your flush, give the plant a couple of days to dry out a bit, that's the reason your leaves are curling up at the ends, to much fluid, but this can't be helped at the minute due to the flush, your main cola shoots are lovely looking.
 
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my damn doctor wanted to do a office visit on the phone by skype or some shit,i told mama tell her that if she wants her 120 buck office visit she better figure out a redneck way better than that ,i dont do electronics at all.then went on to say the flu crap even has the folks that take a oath to help us,but yet choice to be afraid to see us in the office,i am a heart patient so thank you daisy ramerez i be finding me a new doctor,but ya thanks for saving my life i do sincerly aprecites that.
imagine that,coming up a doc would make house calls,come right to your house,that went bye bye,now replaced by phones were anyone one can hack into your shit to know all your biz hahahahh
 
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I was thinking literally following the canna feed chart it seemed highr tho


Bassicly this is they recommendation
-Clamag to take tap water to 0.4 e.c
-2.5ml cannyzm a litre
-2ml rootonic a litre
-a&b 1ml per litre
This gives me 1.1 e.c


In the past
I have pulled clones out a clonner they where 4" tall put Into coco i mixed above
Total was 1.1 e.c, I then added bit of water till was 1.0 e.c and fed till run off
Run off was 0.8 e.c
I waited 3-4 days to dry roots grew well plants looked good, then eventually potted to bigger pot fed the same and boom went down hill the same probproblems as now.

I thinking just sticking to above 1.1 e.c what canna feed chart says even know seemes crazy hight but 1.0 worked well before



Here is they chart you can see 1.1 on the first feed

Iv tried everything else half cal no cal just a&n no cannyzm all sorts always getting same symptoms, then usually gets better, I was tracking run off alot before and making sure run off was 100-200ppm more than in that seemed goos maybe I should do that again

I can't believe the trouble iv had with coco lol some you guys know this as you helped me in the past lol shocking

The ine thing iv not tried is following The canna feed chart to a T,

I have read canna expects your water to be 0.4 e.c you can see Tbis in their chart look at the flush at bottom.of the chart 0.4 e.c

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Ph 007 said:
I was thinking literally following the canna feed chart it seemed highr tho


Bassicly this is they recommendation
-Clamag to take tap water to 0.4 e.c
-2.5ml cannyzm a litre
-2ml rootonic a litre
-a&b 1ml per litre
This gives me 1.1 e.c


In the past
I have pulled clones out a clonner they where 4" tall put Into coco i mixed above
Total was 1.1 e.c, I then added bit of water till was 1.0 e.c and fed till run off
Run off was 0.8 e.c
I waited 3-4 days to dry roots grew well plants looked good, then eventually potted to bigger pot fed the same and boom went down hill the same probproblems as now.

I thinking just sticking to above 1.1 e.c what canna feed chart says even know seemes crazy hight but 1.0 worked well before



Here is they chart you can see 1.1 on the first feed

Iv tried everything else half cal no cal just a&n no cannyzm all sorts always getting same symptoms, then usually gets better, I was tracking run off alot before and making sure run off was 100-200ppm more than in that seemed goos maybe I should do that again

I can't believe the trouble iv had with coco lol some you guys know this as you helped me in the past lol shocking

The ine thing iv not tried is following The canna feed chart to a T,

I have read canna expects your water to be 0.4 e.c you can see Tbis in their chart look at the flush at bottom.of the chart 0.4 e.c

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see i totaly disagree with that,550 for your plant is too much in my opinion,i dont go by dealer recomends first off,they want to sell product,i goi by vision of the plant,your plant tells me early veg ,meaning 3 to 400 ppm full veg would be 450 to 700,im going by hannah feed schedule,they might want to sell you a pen but that it
 
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oldskol4evr said:
see i totaly disagree with that,550 for your plant is too much in my opinion,i dont go by dealer recomends first off,they want to sell product,i goi by vision of the plant,your plant tells me early veg ,meaning 3 to 400 ppm full veg would be 450 to 700,im going by hannah feed schedule,they might want to sell you a pen but that it
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Yeah those nutes companies must be feeding forests.
 
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I know the chart is dam high
I can't get my ppm low unless i cut calmag from 0.4 to 0.2 e.c
And cut our the cannyzm
Or give a&b at 0.5ml not 1ml/1ml+

I could just feed no cal no cannyz
Just a and b to get 0.6/0.8 e.c
It seems calmag just blowes your e.c out range,

Soil I'd start on 0.8 a&b have done for years.no calmag ever
And
Aerophobic clonner I start.on juat ph water then 0.4 & 0.6 e.c and sometimes grow them really big on just 0.6 a&b no calmag ,

But coco just ain't working 100% all time for me, what inhave noticed that my soil and clone machine feed is exactly the same as canna's coco feed chart if you take away 0.4 , that's what I add calmag and they expect water to be that.
So is it that same really lol

And if run 1.0 e.c through coco that included calmag I the 1.0 e.c, I get 0.8 out so again it now just 0.8 ,
And the second feed the same
So this means I think is under fed because coco run off should be 100-200ppm more than in if not they need more food , good knows

I read coco needs more e.c then soil and hydro it got nothing in it so in a way ita filtering out any feed you our in for first few feed,


Also I though earlier that if they feed chart was gonna burn plant and shit people would not buy canna again as they would but follow they chart burn shit into plant and never buy canna again so they be making less money
 
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I'm.gonna let them up a tad and hit thenm with 1.4e.c and out ppm should be loke 100-200 ppm more than I hope
And see what happens time shall tell
I'll might be back crying soon ha

Next clones I pot up im going for.the 1.1 e.e canna recommendations and see what or.does
 
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Update

I binned them coco and just put 4 new plants in but I soil, not got the time or head to fuck about anymore with then 4 coco,

I plan to stick with soil now like I use to then just take extras clones and practice with coco in the veg tent, no cal half half low feed hight fees so on, i have done that once bit.i need Wright it all down thanks time

I have 4 in flower in coco 3.5 weeks todsy they look goos and on 0.4 e.c calmag since the srart So I'm.so bloody confused if grown coco with and with out calmag some great some.bad can't figure it out.

Here are my 4 in flower in coco so.i cant be all that bad at it lol they been on 0.4 calmag start.of veg iv been trsckijg th run off on yhese more lately iv been up tob 2.2 e.c for 4 days then rub off finally came.out the same or lower so if dropped baxk now yo 1.6 e.c and gonna see what the run off is tonight then, see these had crazy hight e.c and only was in 2 weeks flower ., they in 20 litre fabric pots top.feed to wast, they where watred6 once a day till.run off then 2nd week of flower I bumped the to water twice a day
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And below here are my new ones in soil that replaced them 4 sick coco i had
So bloody wast soil is specially this soil it's baby soil hight e.c so don't need any feed for few weeks sometimes none at all for the while grow just pk boost later on they just need water and maybe root feed if can be added crazy easy uh lol.

So easy I might even just Stay on soil
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What do you guys think a out coco vs rock wool

I have a rhizo drain to wast system for im using coco in 20 litre pots fed twice a day usually 4 plants use 12 litres a day of ,
I was thinking of changing to 10 litre pots and watering more often trying more hydro.
Inot even sure if I could water my 20 litre pots more or even if twice a day is to much the seem to be doing good.

I now have a new plan to ditch the Coco and just grow in rock wool maybe 4/6 inch cubes and water often to wast

But i wanted to know if rock wool would be using more than the 12 litres a day for 4 plants, my 4 plants in coco are using 12 litres a day and I don't want to be using more than , ideally less
 
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