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Next up would be the source turbo speeds things up and recovers alcohol- only dies small batches thoughNice thread fellas...
I make my extraction the old school way with the everclear wash, strain etc...then reduce until I get to the approx. milligrams I want for cooking/dosing using the online calcs. As always with this is that my THC content is my best guess. Apparently I'm quite consistant with this my folks tell me as their edibles (caramels) are right on the money every time. I don't do this on a big scale but prob 4 times per year when needed.
I would be interested in a tutorial that shows how to get things going with this type of extraction for people without spending a boatload of money I don't have. Is there a basic roto vap for reasonable money that WORKS lol (yes I'm cheap) so I could take things up to a bit higher quality.
Watched Moe's roto vap vid but that's way outta my league with all that equipment. Looking for the next level up from the basic old school extraction.
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Just forget all that and continue doin what I've been doin, seems like its all pretty much hands on at all times anyways eh!
Next up would be the source turbo speeds things up and recovers alcohol- only dies small batches though
Yes, I agree that the source is a good first stop. It has limitations, but it's not bad for the price.
Soft recommendation. Limitations are slow / small batches, and temp control is not tight. Meaning you will lose terps in the process. Some folks don't care about that.I'll take this as a recommendation lol. If it does things as shown in the two vids so far I'd be tickled I think. Thanks
Soft recommendation. Limitations are slow / small batches, and temp control is not tight. Meaning you will lose terps in the process. Some folks don't care about that.
I try think he was making oil for edibles ? But yes not much on terps it’s just super easy to use I think anyone can itSoft recommendation. Limitations are slow / small batches, and temp control is not tight. Meaning you will lose terps in the process. Some folks don't care about that.
So far I have used the reactor for soaking and for remediation. It works great because it keeps it agitated during extraction and remediation. It is even possible to winterize the solution in the reactor with a decent chiller.Can't wait to see what you do with the reaction chamber.
I gave away my source turbo because it was too damn slow and you had to keep adding ice. But it's how we started too.
- You mentioned Ethanol etho:water ratio changes with solvent usage. Can I not just simply distill Everclear back to 95% with a rotovap or fractional still?
To a point, you can take water out. but it is way more efficient when taking a lot of water out than just a little. A molecular sieve is what you really need to remove water from ETOH.
I'm gonna rename the thread then come back and see what other things I missed.
As @Moe.Red mentioned, small batches. 1oz-2oz. Still waiting on rotovap to arrive. So yesterday, I decided to evap approx. 1700ml of solution thru the Source Turbo. Ya......... it is meant for small batches! Took well over 12 hrs to cycle the entire amount.Thanks man...I am going to talk with my oldest lad that I do edibles for, maybe he will buy itlol. Maybe split the cost. I may have to sell some drum stuff
I'll take this as a recommendation lol. If it does things as shown in the two vids so far I'd be tickled I think. Thanks
As @Moe.Red mentioned, small batches. 1oz-2oz. Still waiting on rotovap to arrive. So yesterday, I decided to evap approx. 1700ml of solution thru the Source Turbo. Ya......... it is meant for small batches! Took well over 12 hrs to cycle the entire amount.
But for small batches, it works very well.
Reason being is that I want my concentrate as clean and natural as possible.
MMMMM, bubble hash. Still havent tried it! If I had large quantities, I would give making bubble hash a go. It is as time consuming. Cheaper to do, but whole different product. To refine it further you have to put it into solution anyways. Thats were you are going to spend some loot.Gosh. I just make bubble hash, press it into rosin and infuse coconut oil with rosin chips for gummy bears. Keep it simple. HAHA.
I can get down below 25 Torr on my water pump.So, having major issues with vacuum. Cant seem to get vacuum deep enough. Lowest pressure I can get is 411 Torr. Using a 1L fractional still. Has 7-8 glass joints. I greased the living shit out all joints, rotating male/female connections for clear and see-thur glass. I even used teflon tape to no avail.
Tried running 2 pumps in tandem. No go. Has got me fucked trying to figure out issue. I think either pump alone should be able to pull a deep enough vacuum.
I am hoping @Moe.Red will chime in. Anyone with suggestions?
These are the 2 pumps I have:
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Specification: Material Stainless Steel, Copper, ABS Plastic Input 110V Single-Tap Sucking Rate 10L/min Max. Vacuum Degree 0.098Mpa Flow 60L/min Tank Volume 15L Motor Power 180W
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Specification: Free Air Displacement(FAD) 5CFM, Stage Two, Power 1/2 HP, Voltage/Frequency 110V / 60HZ , Ultimate Vacuum 0.3 PA, 25 microns
Thanks Moe.I can get down below 25 Torr on my water pump.
I tied the 2 outputs together with a tee. If you have not, that will double the vacuum because there are 2 separate piston assemblies inside.
If the water gets hot, the performance tanks. I start with ice water in the bucket.
If neither of these things helps, you have a leak somewhere.
That is almost pr0n. I would work there for free just to learn. Very nice. What do we have going on in the picture? Is that a reactor or wiped film? Hard for me to tell by picture. Likely obvious to others. Oh, can you spare one of those pumps and cold traps? LOL Ball park figure. How much money sitting on that rack? 60K?
OK. If this is allowed, I will post what I have found in my quest for Affordable Extraction and refinement Equipment. Items will be posted as I find them, not in order they would be utilized. The majority of the equipment can be found at Vevor. Prices are good, very fast shipping, and what I have received from them to date has been very acceptable. Some items listed I have not personally purchased or tested. I will indicate this. If and when I do purchase these items, I will update as required. I will include prices at time of writing.
I will start with a Reaction Chamber as it is versatile and you can actually do extractions with it. With the right setup, it could almost be turn-key.
Reaction Chamber
VEVOR Jacketed Reactor 5L Laboratory Glass Reactor $1044.99CAD - Purchased
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- Extractions, Homogenize, Infuse, Winterize, Colour/Pestiside Remediation, Distillation/Solvent Recovery, Decarboxylation
Biomass Press
VEVOR Wine Presser, 0.5Gal/2L Grape Press $99.99CAD - Purchased / Tested
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- Press and squeeze biomass to recover as much solution as possible.
EVAPORATION / SOLVENT RECOVERY
Source Turbo $735CAD - Purchased / Tested
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- Evaporation and solvent recovery. Vacuum filtering. Possibly decarboxylation (i havent confirmed)
Great machine. The first actual piece of equipment I have purchased. Works great and as advertised. You can evaporate and recover the solvent. You can use it as a Vacuum Pump and utilize a Buchner Funnel to Vacuum Filter the solution prior to evaporation.
Small batches and takes approx. two hours for one cycle. Several cycles maybe required to fully evaporate the batch solution.
Rotary Evaporators
Lumana Rotary Evaporator 5L ($351.00) - Purchased
Ordered but still on boat from China. @Moe.Red noticed there is no Bump Trap. That might be an issue. I believe a trap can be found for it. Will have to be very careful in the mean time.
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- Evaporation and Solvent Recovery
Bmatwk 1L Roary Evaporator ($51.00CAD) - Purchased
This is almost laughable in pricing. Ordered but still on boat from China.
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- Evaporation and Solvent Recovery
Vacuum Pump / Chiller / Cold Trap
Circulating Water Vacuum Pump Air 60L/min Stainless 180W Lab Chemistry Equipment ($221.99) - Purchased
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This unit acts as a Vacuum Pump, Water Circulating Chiller, and Cold Trap. All required to operate a rotovap, reaction chamber*, or fractional/short path still.
*Depending on process
This is just what I have found and purchased. Please feel free to post better options or deals. I will continue to update as I find goods.
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