How to stretch your ladies.

[Tattooedchase]

Now we're talking. Looks familiar, nice job. Try that with auto's

That is a auto..lol

 

[Tattooedchase]

Now we're talking. Looks familiar, nice job. Try that with auto's

I've only grown Autos....never grew a photo at all...I'm ready to...I use coco and all Megacrop products...and follow the Dli auto chart...

 

[Tattooedchase]

Now we're talking. Looks familiar, nice job. Try that with auto's

These are all Autos I've crossed...thats when i ran living soil...now i get way bigger plants....

 

[Tattooedchase]

Now we're talking. Looks familiar, nice job. Try that with auto's

My current auto grow....

 

[GNick55]

These are all Autos I've crossed...thats when i ran living soil...now i get way bigger plants....View attachment 2054269View attachment 2054270View attachment 2054271View attachment 2054272View attachment 2054273

wells there our auto guy helper..
very nice!..

 

[Tattooedchase]

wells there our auto guy helper..
very nice!..

Thanks I'll help any way I can....and I grow beast autos....

 

[Tattooedchase]

Rainbow Glue auto...

 

[tomjhannon]

Hi folks,
i run a mars FC4800 light
25% at seedling
50% at grow
75% at flower
12” from plant.

I wish i’d get a bit more stretch. Below pictures of last 2 grows.

My lights are 3 feet above my plants and they a stretching just fine. I have 6 plants and six lights. All LED and rated at 1000 to 1200 each. Actual watts used…about 200 each. My plants love the light and they have 3 ft of stretch to go. I love the LED’s…they run a lot cooler than other lights.

 

[ccoki]

I don't want to spam you with pictures but I also don't want to spam with text lol but I definitely just went through this over the span of a year and somewhat solved it to get better yields and even a little bit more height.

Also noticed my first auto was kinda stunting and I grabbed an infrared thermometer but not for people? Idk what it was lol but it alerted me that my soil was wayyy hotter than the room in im talking almost 10° that to me was a sign the lights were too close but I couldn't move them or dim any more so I moved them to the taller tent and sure enough they really started to thrive. So yes an auto but still a veg plant it matters.

But that's not how I increased my yields but sort of lol. First time. More time. 2 months minimum, photos sure do put off signs when they are mature and ready. Wait for that. Take advantage of it because it is so worth the wait. Watch the plant and train accordingly never stop tending to or paying attention to your training in veg. Stronger lights yes, but getting them the right percentage and distance is absolutely key, while keeping up the conditions of the overall tent. It's not been an easy balance for me and my rooms can go to each extreme...90° or frozen soil. The biggest change was transitioning from coco to rols. Farming ladybugs and worms, nematodes, myco, compost and dry amending that about sums it all up lol Not only did the taste and yields improve but I got more height too. It was a strong indication I was doing coco wrong and it brought me closer to the entire process, what I was putting in and overall things have just been better.
Good luck on your grow and future grows!
NGL I love me a little shorty, but that wasn't what I was going for even if still they can put out some nice buds .

 

[lil.grower420]

Hi folks,
i run a mars FC4800 light
25% at seedling
50% at grow
75% at flower
12” from plant.

I wish i’d get a bit more stretch. Below pictures of last 2 grows.

Hi, if you use a red light in veg they will stretch and have thinner stems which might break later. If you use blue light you barely get any distance between nodes at all. I've three lights of slightly different spectrums and all are needed imo, two were very cheap, one blue, one red, then one mars hydro ts1000 as well.

I'd suggest buying an old blurple led light and using it during veg instead of the mars hydro. Seedlings don't need powerful lights and poor light makes them stretch as well as red and infrared light, but it might take longer to reach the final stages because you are slightly stressing them with lack of full spectrum light.

When I only had a blurple led array my plants grew too tall for the space, maybe 120cm+ for white widow or ammo haze which are both stretchy anyway.
When I use only white/blue light from seedling, the resulting plants are stocky with many colas, then I add red light later or switch both lights out for the mars.

The other thing makes plants small is small pots, but yours are big.
They look quite stressed in your first photo, are those dying leaves signalling the end of the lifespan or is there a problem?

 

[Otto Bonn]

well you don’t want to veg longer than a month.. that’s your problem,
during the stretch phase what spectrum of light were you using?
blue or red?
what’s your ambient temps?
and by the looks of it there’s still a lot of basic learning needed here..

Nick, could you elaborate? I usually Veg 4 weeks but have gone 6 weeks at times. Vegging longer that 4 weeks is detrimental in what way? thanks

 

[3cats]

Nick, could you elaborate? I usually Veg 4 weeks but have gone 6 weeks at times. Vegging longer that 4 weeks is detrimental in what way? thanks

You read that wrong, He was saying the reason your plants are small is because you only veg for 1 month. 6 week - 2month old will produce more pot per plant than a 1 month old

 

[GNick55]

Nick, could you elaborate? I usually Veg 4 weeks but have gone 6 weeks at times. Vegging longer that 4 weeks is detrimental in what way? thanks

when do you start the “veg” stage?? at time when seedling breaks the soil surface or when then seedling has already popped up and is 2-3 weeks old?..

 

[Deadstill]

I like to stretch 'em real good until their legs can reach just behind their ears..

Wait, you mean plants? Uhh.. I.. Nevermind...

 

[Cannaburg]

That's 3 plants there

 

[Otto Bonn]

when do you start the “veg” stage?? at time when seedling breaks the soil surface or when then seedling has already popped up and is 2-3 weeks old?..

Yeah I don't really count the first 10 -14 days

 

[GNick55]

Yeah I don't really count the first 10 -14 days

so 6 weeks basically from coming through the soil.. push it to 2 months than flip, or drop an hour every 4/5 days until 12/12.. at flip use more of a red spectrum if you can and do your topping at that time too..

 

[MarkDm]

Good info on this threat.
I will be rereading it and planning my next set up.
Additional purchases are not happening this month.

For those who are buying the red bucks.
This might work also.
There‘s one drawback. The UV&IR are on the same powersource so manual flipping of selector switches is required if you plan to run both But at different times.

Mars Hydro UR45 IR & UV LED Grow Light

Mars Hydro UV/IR Bar lights, total output of 45W, mainly used to supplement the UV and IR radiation when using white full-spectrum LED grow lights in indoor growing

marshydro.eu

 

[Cannaburg]

I'm not sure about the blue giving smaller cola's, all I know for sure is what I've done and read about. In veg I had to turn off my reds led's because my plants outstretch my space too quickly. It also makes them stretch more in early flower, again growing me out of space so off they went as well in flower.

Blue is said to keep them short, I've not done that myself but read about it.

I'm using Far Red lights in flower to put them to sleep faster which allows me to keep my lights on for 12.5 hrs per day in flower rather than just 12. Getting my plants to finish 1 - 2 weeks earlier. I've only done that once as well with 1 far red in my 3x3 but I just ordered 2 more to put in my 5x5 for this next run. They go on 5 min before lights out to 15 min after lights out so the canopy is covered in a deep red glow for 15 min.

The far blue is great for veg but not flower... the reason plants stay small under blue light is because they are not getting the reds needed for flower...I have a straylight plasma light that gives the far blue... plants under my plasma were garbage compared to full spectrum

 

[Cannaburg]

The far blue is great for veg but not flower... the reason plants stay small under blue light is because they are not getting the reds needed for flower...I have a straylight plasma light that gives the far blue... plants under my plasma were garbage compared to full spectrum

Not garbage per say as to very little producing plants... my plasma light got me 2 Oz max while my others were about 5 to 6 Oz per plant