justiceman
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well the new growth is pulling out of it
I know what was wrong with the plants I just dont know why
Sulfur Deficiency
I was reading up on it
PH.....nope I am sitting @ 5.8
lack of sulfur.....nope VB has plenty
the only other way to get a sulfur deficiency
an over abundance of Calcium
so ...since VB has 10% Ca
and the company told me to run .3 calmg with VB
I am thinking I locked sulfur out
and since Sulfur is a really slow element
it takes a white to correct itself
so new growth it coming out green
old growth is straight neon green with a hint of gold while the veins remain green and the stems have slight pink hue
never again will I use anything with VB besides.........VB
not even the p/k booster....which seems way to high in the K department for coco
maybe if I was in rockwool but not coco
Shine rocks my ladies in Coco. Don't be afraid to use it. Back when it was SIZE I used to run it with a home made MOAB and when SHINE hit the market I actually stopped using my MOAB and I am seeing better results than ever. No other booster has given me the rock hard density that I get with SHINE. I have absolutely NO complaints with my flowers. Dense, sticky and smelly.never again will I use anything with VB besides.........VB
not even the p/k booster....which seems way to high in the K department for coco
maybe if I was in rockwool but not coco
yeah when I called I told them I run RO and that I didnt want to cut my water with TapShine rocks my ladies in Coco. Don't be afraid to use it. Back when it was SIZE I used to run it with a home made MOAB and when SHINE hit the market I actually stopped using my MOAB and I am seeing better results than ever. No other booster has given me the rock hard density that I get with SHINE. I have absolutely NO complaints with my flowers. Dense, sticky and smelly.
Glad to hear you got things back on track, and it sucks that V+B tech support led you down the wrong path. Pretty sure it's just a matter of growing pains for them, as they have literally blown up in the last year.
I use two additives other than V+B products. During Veg I use OSA 28, and during flower I use Anasazi Gold Fulvic......and that's it. I don't think I really NEED to use these products, but I do things a bit differently than most people and for me they make sense.
Another little tip. In Veg I use a 50/50 blend of TAP and HD to give my girls a little more Nitrogen
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what media are you usingAnd...... about 7 weeks later :)
I ended up cutting the feed to 1.0ec (100ppm tap/ro * plus 400ppm nutes) currently tapering nutrients and into the flush.
I must be the only person who hasn't been able to use VB correctlystraight coco
400w hps magnetic balast
2'x4' tent
I must be the only person who hasn't been able to use VB correctly
I run coco and no matter what ec or with/without Calmg/cut with tap etc........my plants immediately start to look like hot garbage
odd
but looks good man
thanks man i appreciate that
im pretty new to growing and this is my first time using strictly RO as a starting point, so i dont have much to compare it with. i pretty much found out if i mixed it up to around 1.0ec and kept with their water hardness recommendation the pH took care of itself and i just tried to feed low. this would be the lowest ive fed anything in bloom so far. i love it.
Thats pretty interesting. Ive used ro/soft with straight ro water, ive tried adding calmag to the ro water before the vb and ive used it with my tap that is .3ec. The only dofference i noticed was with ro water as a base it was much easier to ph feeds. With the tap as the base it takes a ton To adjust
I never have good luck running that low of an ec. I always run 1.5-1.7ec. Im in straight coco 3gal pots feeding once a day til runoff.
I dont see how you can go that low. Do you really run 1.0ec in the middle of flower? They recommend 4-5grams per gallon and when i use ro/soft formula i get about .25ec per gram so...
Tap= .3ec
4grams ro/soft_= 1.0ec
1gram shine=.2ec
Total= 1.5ec
also im only running 400w, are you using a sealed room with co2?
very nice garden BTW
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