Hydroponic Research User Thread

[Lurkin4yrs]

Not in flower, I'm currently using 40-50 ml to get to 5.8ph. I havent tried to not use it yet, do you think I'm locking out k? I'm not sure exactly what veg+blooms ratios are, it does seem alot if people are having good luck with it. Any one know what the trace mix is lole n in v+b? I was thinking of mabe adding a little m.o.s.t to the mix, I'll take another pic today of a different plant that I believe is a mag-.

-lurkin

 

[We Solidarity]

40-50ml into how much solution?

Ph'ing with potassium silicate will up your potassium levels, which coco is already notoriously high for. I know that high K shows as mag deficiency initially before it starts to fuck with ph.

The wrinkling looks like the leaves are just growing super fast- are you using RO water?

 

[Tejashidrow]

Hey
I am useing V&B HD.
For flowering this stuff is amazing!!
Yet using in veg is very under whelming (at least for me)
I ended up getting some maxigro and got results after the first feed.
How are y 'all doing using V&B in veg??

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

I sorry I forgot the res size, thatd be per 40-45 gal. I'll cut out the protek, I know coco has some k I don't know what v+b has in it. I'll use some ph up for the next few feedings.

-lurkin

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

Yes on the ro aswell, veg+bloom hd

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

Hey
I am useing V&B HD.
For flowering this stuff is amazing!!
Yet using in veg is very under whelming (at least for me)
I ended up getting some maxigro and got results after the first feed.
How are y 'all doing using V&B in veg??

Mine are not as green as I'd like, what media you in?

 

[Kygiacomo]

i used v+b dirty last year on my guerilla grow and i added golden tree in flower and killed it on my delahaze's.. i got $250 a ounce here for my guerilla grown stuff lol. im gonna be using the same thing again next year with 1 addition which will be the osa/28. i was wanting to know if any of u guys use +size as foliar? i bought a pound of it last year but never got around to using it once i seen how well stuff was doing with the golden tree,but i dont beleive in wasting money so i have a pound that i would like to use in veg this year. thanks guys! i just now found this thread and i havent read it all yet,so if the info in is the first 10 pages i will find it tomorrow when i wake up to start reading this whole thread. i should add that in veg i used maxi gro and vitazyme and had some frankenstein plants going into flower.

 

[Quantrill]

Lurk4yrs,

Here is what the calcs look like for your stated mix, or atleast as close as i could guess with the info given.

 

[We Solidarity]

Yes on the ro aswell, veg+bloom hd

True that. Ya idk my experience has always been in tap which has more of a buffer for mag...def drop the silica and ph with something not potassium based. I'd add Epsom or possibly even a little cal-mag that's calnit and mag sulfate based for a few feelings if you're still seeing deficiency at 1.8 and no protekt.

Just out of curiosity what is the ph prior to adjustment when you mix your VB?

 

[Smokey503ski]

Try not messing with the pH and see if it improves.
I never mess with mine. It's around 6.8 in coco. Seems to be doing great.

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

@Quantrill thanks brother, I can't tell but how much k did the protek add? 25 ppm or so? You have any info on +size?

@We Solidarity ur right k does look high(possible lock out), I'll stop the protek. My ph before I ajust is 5.3-5.4 I'm on a well that's 800ppm lol so I have to use ro.

@Smokey503ski my balls ain't big enough to try that lol


Here's a pic of the other plant I'm talking about, some people would say humidity but my vpd looks good. It is a og, I'm thinking mag-.

 

[Quantrill]

how much k did the protek add? 25 ppm or so? You have any info on +size?

only about 7 ppm k from one mL protekt per gallon.

I've no info on the +size, though i believe it is atleast partially phosphite?

 

[ill eagle]

May also want to try using the HD in conjunction with The ro soft VB to manage any pH problems. I use a combo of tap water and filtered water to get my starting EC around .2-.3 and then drop in the HD. This keeps the PH from getting too low in the medium between feelings. I know lots of big commercial guys in Colorado that use Ro soft as their base in coco and HD as a weekly suppliment for organics and they are crushing on a massive scale. They don't have the hardness in their water so the HD drops their pH too low. I use HD start to finish but I'm working with a different water source. Make sense?

 

[Tejashidrow]

Mine are not as green as I'd like, what media you in?

I am useing 70/30 coco/perilite with calmag due to coco and LEDs ...
Very green but could be because of that little touch of nitrogen in the calmag

 

[Kygiacomo]

Hey
I am useing V&B HD.
For flowering this stuff is amazing!!
Yet using in veg is very under whelming (at least for me)
I ended up getting some maxigro and got results after the first feed.
How are y 'all doing using V&B in veg??

hey i found maxi gro works way better for me in veg,sounds like u and i found out the same thing lol i was getting all sorts of fuck ups outdoors with it in veg last year and once i switched to maxi gro shit greened up and took off like a rock. when i transition into flower i used 50/50 maxi gro & v+b dirty. started on week 3 with full dose of v+b and golden tree. im gonna use hydroplex this year in flower since i have a bunch of samples of it.

 

[Wisher619]

hello guys....for my next run I am thinkin of using V&B in coco.....I use RO as my water is 697 out of the tap.....would CalMg+ be a good coice to bring my base up before adding the V&B or will that throw off my N???

 

[Kygiacomo]

hello guys....for my next run I am thinkin of using V&B in coco.....I use RO as my water is 697 out of the tap.....would CalMg+ be a good coice to bring my base up before adding the V&B or will that throw off my N???

ive never needed cal/mag with V+b. the dirty has 10% calcium already in it but i do use oyster shell flour,basalt rock dust,azomite and gypsum in my soil so that could be another reason i dont need it. im sure one the other guys here will have better advice about it.

 

[Wisher619]

I would be running pure coco which is basically a hydroponic setup DTW at 10% twice daily....no amendments to coco

 

[CelticEBE]

I would be running pure coco which is basically a hydroponic setup DTW at 10% twice daily....no amendments to coco

Really kind of plant dependent. My Skywalker is the ONLY plant in my stable that I have to hit with a little bit of cal-mag. I should add that I am in a 70/30 coco perlite mix.

From what I understand the HD has a bit more cal-mag than the other formulations. Id say give it a shot and if you need the extra cal mag then hit em with some.

Personally, I have been using a blend of tap and dirty for the last year and I am pleased as punch. I'm gonna order some HD here soon for a test run.

 

[Wisher619]

Thnx for the advice....I have been running a Blue Dream x Platinum GSC and she sucks the Cal down like crazy...also V&B has no posts of there analysis on NPK and all that so just tryin to get a feel in the V&B community