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I'm honestly more concerned with the proposed changes to current medical laws they sent to our state's legislature. I DGAF about commercial grows, I need my meds, and if I can only have three in flower at a time, I'm fucked. Period.
Also though, I seriously doubt many people will want more than one tier 3 license. That's a fuckload of space, and nobody wants to jump headlong into this game JUST yet. It's still federally scheduled, and that's making people hesitate. Marlboro announced they will be marketing the new Marlboro M's, but I'm pretty sure they didn't even apply for a license in the first round. Either way, they are going to be forced to expand that canopy limit once they realize that it's just not a reasonable number (even though it does sound pretty high).
Yes, there will be a lot of problems no matter which way this new law gets implemented. There's gonna be beaurocratic bullshit and red tape everywhere. There always is. But give it a few years and things will even themselves out. If they don't, we as the citizens will cause such an outcry that SOMETHING will need to be done. The LCB isn't just going to say "no, you can't grow more weed that will give us more money for our coffers!" It's just not smart, even in the way that government officials think. Lol
Inthegorge I really don't think you are a bad person and I don't think you intentionally want to do anything that would hurt mmj, but that mere fact that you are playing in the LCB's game states that you're on their side. And in turn are part of the problem with the changes/rules against mmj. No it's not you as a person but it is what you are part of. Like it or not, but if you choose to participate in anyway, you are part of a government organization that will essentially force all medical patients to not grow and purchase from rec shops.I can pretty much guarantee that no one that applied for a license with the state of WA to grow "legal" recreational weed here "wants to get rid of us mmj growers before they set the system into play and then also force all mmj patients to buy from recreational stores". I am one of "them". I would be totally happy if no one changed the rules for MMJ at all here, leave what is existing in place even though I know for a fact that it allows lots of people to grow and sell weed pretty much openly here and certainly not just for medical use.
I don't think that's completely true. I think a lot of the people hoping to grow rec are after the money more than the quality of their product. I think rec growers will be much less reluctant to use dangerous methods of pest and fungus control. I highly doubt everybody that's applied just wants to grow weed for the love of the plant. You might, but I don't think you're the majority. Not to mention, how will even you react when you're looking at multi 100,000 dollar crop that looks like it's starting to get powdery mildew and is already in flower?The people that have applied for the license with the state are all just like you and I, people who just want to grow weed, period.
I've read otherwise but the LCB keeps changing things up so who knows, you might be right.According to the person that is the LCB investigator assigned to our license application, they are not going to limit canopy the first year.
Do you really think the LCB gives the smallest shit about what the right thing to do is? All they care about is how they can maximize their profit margins and extend time to figure this out. Do you know anyone that has actually gotten or scheduled one of these inspections to give the OK on growing? I don't. Why do you think that is? Most likely the state still has no clue how they're going to do this or what the rules will end up being. I really hope you do great in the rec industry, but I have a hard time supporting you when your industry is stomping on my rights to grow. If the LCB would leave medical alone, i think everyone would be a lot happier. But people need to voice that in order for it to even be thought about. People like you that are playing in their game might even have more of an impact if you wrote the state and told them to not mess with medical.Giving everyone a good opportunity to succeed is the right thing to do.
I can pretty much guarantee that no one that applied for a license with the state of WA to grow "legal" recreational weed here "wants to get rid of us mmj growers before they set the system into play and then also force all mmj patients to buy from recreational stores". I am one of "them".
I would be totally happy if no one changed the rules for MMJ at all here, leave what is existing in place even though I know for a fact that it allows lots of people to grow and sell weed pretty much openly here and certainly not just for medical use.
That does not bother me though even as a person that hopes to grow "legal" weed here. I am for true legalization which I502 is not and in my mind it really is a taxation plan for the state but to play the game you have to go through the LCB. I agree they should not be the state entity that deals with but it seems set in stone and we have to do it the way the state has it set up.
The people that have applied for the license with the state are all just like you and I, people who just want to grow weed, period. We hope to make some cash on our business just like any of you would. We do not have a hard on for MMJ rights.
That is totally on the state, particularly the LCB. They should not ever be involved in medical issues for anyone! Blaming it on people that have applied for their licenses to grow is just silly and you are putting the blame in the wrong place on this issue.
According to the person that is the LCB investigator assigned to our license application, they are not going to limit canopy the first year. That will not affect how they distribute the producers licenses in any way. The first year will be a "we will see" year in regards to total canopy . They do not know what the market will actually bear, they do not know how many people will be successful in their attempts at growing on this scale, etc. so this part of their "projection" will be tested in the first year.
I was surprised when I saw the information about the LCB giving people that applied for licenses another month to secure a reasonable location a couple of days ago. Seems fair though considering how many communities and counties still have moratoriums in place and how difficult it can be to find a suitable location. I know a couple of people that had all their ducks in a row so to speak that are pissing and moaning about how they should just stick to the rules and not allow those people's applications to go forward but they are just petty and want less competition. Personally I think the process is pretty difficult already so any time the LCB acts like a reasonable entity it is a good thing for us all. Giving everyone a good opportunity to succeed is the right thing to do.
I most certainly have been following the happenings of the last 90 days. There have been many recommendations to the legislature from many different sources. There are some big folks that have applied for multiple tier 3 producer licenses and I am sure most of them have some big money behind them but for the most part, most of the 2700 people that have applied are indeed like me.To make such a statement can only mean that you have NOT been following the happenings of the last 90 days.
There have been 8 recommendations to the legislature in the last quarter that do exactly that.
That statement was accurate and fine right up to the point where you begin speculating (the part where you say I know for a fact) and then did exactly what the LCB did and make yourself the expert on medical necessity. What makes You the one who knows for a fact what is medical usage or not?
Can you please source that information, it sounds like the rest of the heresay I've been reading.
In 5 years it will only be commercial farms and connoisseur growers.
Just for your info I have been a very vocal advocate for leaving medical alone in our state. I have attended multiple public meetings driving long distances to do so, sent over 4o emails and letters to my legislators, sent them from my daughters email addresses and even created a few new one to send from, called all my legislators personally, appealed to everyone I know in WA state to do the same and have been very vocal about my personal belief's to anyone who would listen.
I even put my money where my mouth is and my partner and I donate 10 lbs each year for the last 4 years to medical dispensaries in the eastern part of the state, never have taken a penny for any of it. Not to blow my own horn but have you been such an advocate?
Really at the age of 58 there is no way in hell that I would not try to be a part of any "legalization" effort, not only here but anywhere in the US. That is what so many people I know have longed for, fought for, campaigned for since I can remember. Why this has come to medical OR legal on this board is beyond me. I absolutely do not think that weed should only be looked at as medicine however. I do use it as medication but I also use it recreationally and no one should be prosecuted for either in my opinion.
In truth no one has put the LCB in charge of medical weed here and I doubt they will ever be in charge of medical weed here.
In truth the legislature asked for opinions from the LCB, the dept of revenue, and the health department on medical weed and sincerely I hope none of it is given any credence at all because it is all a bunch of hogwash and clearly more an issue of taxation to these two agencies than one that has any sort of medical point of view. Neither should have anything to do with medical weed! Their opinion is ridiculous and should not even be considered by the legislature!
If you buy alcohol here in WA state are you supporting their opinion on medical weed since they still regulate alcohol sales even if they are not the actual ones selling it here? No, of course you are not. My application for a business license to grow weed does not in any way show my support of the LCB opinion on medical weed.
I am not saying I am a wonderful person....(of course I try to be :) but consistently being called out as a person against medical marijuana in WA state here because I am trying to be part of the process of legalization here just makes no sense to me. I am not looking for yoru support...I just cannot understand associating my attempt at a business to do this equates to being a part of the problem. Anyone that feels strongly about keeping medical marijuana as it is in WA state should direct their ire at their legislators as I have. Call, write, email your legislators and scream it from the rooftops so that everyone knows what is going on! That is the way to take personal action on this issue. Here is a link to find who your legislator is for anyone that is interested. http://app.leg.wa.gov/districtfinder/
Contact them! Let them know that medical weed in WA state does not need fixing!
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