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Hi there,
I’m new to this forum. This is my first ever grow and I am doing it outdoors. She is a blue dream clone and she is now in the flowering stage. So, I got heavy handed with the nutrients and gave her way too much nitrogen. She is super leafy. Buds are looking nice. Is there anything I can do at this point? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank you. (Sorry about the music in the videos. They came from a SC post.)


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Big girl! The N toxicity is not that bad, I had way worse hahaha I dont think it will affect yield. When did you feed it? If it was like yesterday or so and they started showing symptoms the next day I would flush but if that nitrogen has already been absorved then just keep feeding as usual I guess. Also seems like you got some insects munching on the leaves and I think I can see some but not sure if its just bite marks.
If I had bugs I would bring out the hydrogen peroxide or citric acid before there's more trichomes because while they degrade and you wont smoke it, they can slightly burn trichomes. In any case Im not an outdoors grower maybe someone has a better approach. Definetely no neem oil or potassic soap at this stage. Neem oil wont have time to degrade and while potassic soap should have enough time to degraded is not a guaranteed that it wont affect the taste.
 
I agree with @Eledin. The N toxicity doesn't look bad. However, I'm not sure the problem is N toxicity.

The white spots on the leaves remind me of spider mite damage. I'm always leery of spider mites. It's that time of year for them, too. I can't see it well, though. The mites live on the underside of the leaves and are hard to see without magnification. I usually cut off a leaf and put it under a microscope or use a jeweler's loupe.

The plant also looks a bit dry. They tend to need a lot of water at that stage.
 
I agree with @Eledin. The N toxicity doesn't look bad. However, I'm not sure the problem is N toxicity.

The white spots on the leaves remind me of spider mite damage. I'm always leery of spider mites. It's that time of year for them, too. I can't see it well, though. The mites live on the underside of the leaves and are hard to see without magnification. I usually cut off a leaf and put it under a microscope or use a jeweler's loupe.

The plant also looks a bit dry. They tend to need a lot of water at that stage.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! I believe there’s spider mites on her. At this stage what can I do to treat them? @Eledin mentioned hydrogen peroxide. Do you have any knowledge on using that to eradicate spider mites? I’ve been giving her 1 gal of water a day. I didn’t want to over water her. Maybe I’ll give her 2 gal 🤔
 
Big girl! The N toxicity is not that bad, I had way worse hahaha I dont think it will affect yield. When did you feed it? If it was like yesterday or so and they started showing symptoms the next day I would flush but if that nitrogen has already been absorved then just keep feeding as usual I guess. Also seems like you got some insects munching on the leaves and I think I can see some but not sure if its just bite marks.
If I had bugs I would bring out the hydrogen peroxide or citric acid before there's more trichomes because while they degrade and you wont smoke it, they can slightly burn trichomes. In any case Im not an outdoors grower maybe someone has a better approach. Definetely no neem oil or potassic soap at this stage. Neem oil wont have time to degrade and while potassic soap should have enough time to degraded is not a guaranteed that it wont affect the taste.
Esmeralda is a grower! I feed her once a week or so. Depending on when I think she needs it. I water her everyday 1 gal.
If I were to use hydrogen peroxide how do I go about doing that? And try to avoid spraying it on the buds? I just added lady bugs to see if they’d eat the mites.. not sure how long that would take though.
Thanks again for the advice
 
I believe there’s spider mites on her. At this stage what can I do to treat them? @Eledin mentioned hydrogen peroxide. Do you have any knowledge on using that to eradicate spider mites?
There are many ways to combat spider mites. It's more difficult when they're flowering because spraying can leave a residue. Hydrogen peroxide and alcohol don't leave any. I use a product from AgroMagen called GrowSafe. It's safe and can be washed off, but it's pricey. The most important thing about spraying for spider mites is to spray the undersides of the leaves. That's where they live.
 
Esmeralda is a grower! I feed her once a week or so. Depending on when I think she needs it. I water her everyday 1 gal.
If I were to use hydrogen peroxide how do I go about doing that? And try to avoid spraying it on the buds? I just added lady bugs to see if they’d eat the mites.. not sure how long that would take though.
Thanks again for the advice
If you introduced ladybugs there's no need to use hydrogen peroxide, they will do the job plus spraying them with hydrogen peroxide might kill them. In any case, if your ladybugs cant do the job or something for pest control is usually 3 parts water 1 part 3%-4% hydrogen peroxide (usually the one to treat wounds has that percentage). Some people use half and half but I think thats way too acidic, 4% hydrogen peroxide is just slightly less acidic than citric acid and you have flowers already so you dont wanna burn them.
 
There are many ways to combat spider mites. It's more difficult when they're flowering because spraying can leave a residue. Hydrogen peroxide and alcohol don't leave any. I use a product from AgroMagen called GrowSafe. It's safe and can be washed off, but it's pricey. The most important thing about spraying for spider mites is to spray the undersides of the leaves. That's where they live.
I know that Gnick uses iso to treat plants but in my opinion thats a bit counter productive as alcohol dissolves trichomes. Is not like hydrogen peroxide is not harmful for the trichomes but not nearly as much but if youre dealing with something serious outdoors maybe alcohol is the only way. Indoors it never gets as ugly as it can get outdoors unless you neglect them a lot.
 
Water it till water comes out the bottom, I would wait a day between watering.
 
Hi there,
I’m new to this forum. This is my first ever grow and I am doing it outdoors. She is a blue dream clone and she is now in the flowering stage. So, I got heavy handed with the nutrients and gave her way too much nitrogen. She is super leafy. Buds are looking nice. Is there anything I can do at this point? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank you. (Sorry about the music in the videos. They came from a SC post.)
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Every genetic is different, think you should be fine, cut back the nitrogen a bit but nothing crazy ✌️
 
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