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I have tested the icebox and was not very happy with it. I figure you would need a massive chiller to deal with the heat 1, and 2 turn it into cold as a a/c replacement. If you are not making this into a a/c replacement.. then WHY THE HELL ARE WE USING IT!! lol.. I tried everything under the sun for that baby..
Bottom line is if your not getting a HUGE chiller or the icebox, then get RID of the heat instead!!! Get another high CFM fan, sealed hoods, and vent them, still keeping your sealed room.
Efficient, the icebox is not.. My 6' inch Icebox for sale along with the Cooling feature of the Minigen (radiator with 1/2 inch ends) both worthless.
What size chiller were you using it with?
HI recommends 1/2HP per 1k.
Were you not able to keep your water 10* below desired air temp?
Did you have your hydrogen hooked up to it too?
I would run the generator drain to waste. WAY too hot water coming out of that to try and cool.
Has anyone tried running Ice Boxes off of a large, uncooled reservoir?
I have a crawlspace that stays cool year round (max 65Fish, min probably about 45 or 50F), and I was thinking of putting a 2-300 gallon reservoir down there and running some Ice Boxes - anyone have any idea if this would work?
Would probably use that more during the winter time as my only source of cooling so that I could use my portable AC as a dehumidifier (I'm guessing it won't run enough during the winter to dehumidify well, but time will tell on that).
So, anyone do anything similar?
Watch it again.
It is not opposite of what you want to do.
If that is on the RETURN line of with hot water coming through and you blow AMBIENT air through it and OUT, it will COOL the water to near ambient, prior to going in to your 300g res to be slowly cooled by ambient air.
Think of it as like your radiator in your car, not like an icebox.
Essentially just 'speeding' up the process of sitting in a barrel and cooling off.
I think we now see why fatman gets banned from forums...
:punch
No disrespect taken.
I agree for the most part. Need to get a thin skin starting in the sandbox, let alone an internet forum.
I can be abrasive as hell (in person and on the internet), but he was a bit over the top. Not in his ideas or thoughts, but the delivery that he gives it in.
No need to get all 'holier than thou' when exchanging ideas on the internet. Some people maybe just need to learn to argue properly and disagree more civilly.
Well due to the RIDICULOUS weather we have had recently, I had to forgo this little project and grab an A/C.
It wasn't me that caused the substation to blow up though.
:confused0059:
I will come back around to this shortly, as I f'ed up(in a good way). This location actually has a 1/3HP chiller and I would still like to test out immersion res chillers and water cooled air handlers.
You tha man!Hey fatman. yes, i know an A/C dehumidifies as well. but that's a good description for people who don't know
lol is that paragraph a recommendation for me? I would never put a window A/C in a sealed room. lol. that's silly. Have you seen my set up? you think saving $100 dollars is that big a deal when i spent as much as i did? and anyway one of my dehumidifiers cost under $100 dollars on sale (extra 20 i think otherwise, and its a good quality too, both are well built). your saying I can get a GOOD QUALITY window A/C unit for $33.33 dollars! awesome! sign me up for one for my office. (to be fair though i think i paid $160 (at most) for my analog hydrofarm dehumidifier (when you buy as much as i did at once, you get a pretty awesome hydro store discount lol)
why go cheap on your cooling!? I would never pick up a cheapo window a/c (or any cheapo A/C) and depend on it for my crop. what about when it breaks? i can run cold city water through my iceboxes if something horrible happens to my chiller (heaven forbid!) I would just need to close some valves and open some others and tada! cold water and A/C without a chiller. Having back up fail safes is comforting when people depend on you.
Since earlier you seemed to know how A/C works... the object of using water to cool is because: One, water is more efficient at extracting heat than air is. you seem fairly intelligent so you should know that. and secondly to have that water move the heat somewhere else more convenient. why would an A/C be more efficient for me? it would be WAY more inconvenient and would of been more expensive to replace or add another A/C to the house. You think I exhaust my heat into my house or something? i'm a little confused i think you might of read something wroung. and yes, My lights are MUCH closer to the plants than probably any air cooled persons set up is. my plants can touch the glass (they don't touch it though) and not be to hot! although they would get light burn from my 1k bulb lol. it's what running a perfect environment is all about.
things aren't always cut and dry. every situation is different maybe some people are stealthy, or some are located in a weird or small spot. not everyone is comfortable wiring stuff or putting things together themselves. they make products that have warranties and designed for specific functions for a reason. but good idea, although i would never do it. ChillKing i think makes chillers that are converted window A/C units.
LOL NOT "absurdly wasteful energy" you don't understand my set up fully, and that cool. I never really, even in my journals, explain/talk about what my basement is set up like or even what the door to my grow looks like for that matter lol. I own but i never take security lightly. I may be legal but it doesn't protect you from thieves. my set up is a lot more efficient than your thinking... i dont have to deal with the heat twice that would be moronic. like putting a big A/C unit in a basement to cool a room only to have to use the houses A/C to cool the basement A/C lol that makes no sense (u should put the bong down j/k hahahaha who am i kidding, pack another one ;) )
My system is awesome, and I love it. A sealed room isn't for everyone tho (nor is perpetual, which is what im trying now... its hard to have everything in order on time and rooted etc. etc.). it takes a lot of work to build and planning. I can get over 2 lbs a light and I still have room for improvement! and that's the truth :) (i still have nutrient things to dial in, i wanna switch brands here soon too) having perfect control over your environment makes it easier to grow a real quality product. people (including myself) depend on my buds for medicine, I want to be able to give em some good medicine.
lol when you actually start growing, you'll realize that spending an extra $200 bucks or whatever your trying to say i did, is worth the peace of mind! definitely. I use dehumidifiers to dehumidify, know why? its what they were designed to do, and i know they will do what they are supposed to. dealing with bud rot or powdery mildew isn't something I want to ever deal with. so spending a couple bucks ain't no thing when it keeps you from worrying.
My electric bill is just under $300 a month. that's with my grow, and a two bedroom 3 bath house. electric stove (and we cook ALL the time too AND bake a lot too!) T.v's, 1 desktop gaming pc (lotsa watts there) and a laptop, and a whole house A/C to boot. that's not bad in my opinion for growing ~2lbs a month AND 2 people living here. I give my meds out for a VERY ridiculously low reasonable price, and free if they can't afford it at the time. i'm not in this for the money. I love growing and smoking myself :)
lol this post got long lol oh well.
Happy Pharming!
-Mystre.Pharmer
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