Hey fatman. yes, i know an A/C dehumidifies as well. but that's a good description for people who don't know
lol is that paragraph a recommendation for me? I would never put a window A/C in a sealed room. lol. . that's silly.
No it is you that is being silly dude. Have you seen my set up?
Why would I wish to see your system dude, your mere descriptions allow be to form an evaluation. The evaluation does not idicate a quality system. you think saving $100 dollars is that big a deal when i spent as much as i did?
Dude I really don't care if you like to waste monet buying and using sad products. and anyway one of my dehumidifiers cost under $100 dollars on sale (extra 20 i think otherwise, and its a good quality too, both are well built).
I doubt that very much dude. And again what you use in your own sytems matter little to me, but no one else should be led to believe your system is a high quality system dude, as it is not. your saying I can get a GOOD QUALITY window A/C unit for $33.33 dollars! No I never said that dude. Are you mentally lame are just inventing lame arguments and grasphing at straws here. awesome! sign me up for one for my office. (to be fair though i think i paid $160 (at most) for my analog hydrofarm dehumidifier (when you buy as much as i did at once, you get a pretty awesome hydro store discount lol)
Wow first $100m, now $160. That might explain how you pulled that $33 number out of your heini dude.
why go cheap on your cooling!? I would never pick up a cheapo window a/c (or any cheapo A/C) and depend on it for my crop.
There is nothing cheapy abut it dude. Airconditioner are just not expensive. what about when it breaks? i can run cold city water through my iceboxes if something horrible happens to my chiller (heaven
forbid!) I would just need to close some valves and open some others and tada! cold water and A/C without a chiller. Having back up fail safes is comforting when people depend on you.
Dude air conditioners are not rocket ships. A fan will eventually burn out. That requires about 30 minutes to repair dude.
Since earlier you seemed to know how A/C works... the object of using water to cool is because: One, water is more efficient at extracting heat than air is.
No water can hold more heat energy than an equivalent volume of air. It is mor costly in this situation y to move that water tham the volume of air needed to transport that same amount of thermal energy. With the air being cheaper to move in large volumes the chiller with a small extractor is lower in efficiency per cost to operate. Dude your using an chiller that is less efficient than a common window air conditioner already, the your lowering the efficiency even more by adding a secone even less efficient air to water radiator to transfer thermal energy. Ie your system is less efficient. Period. suchyou seem fairly intelligent so you should know that.
I know you are wrong in your opinions dude. and secondly to have that water move the heat somewhere else more convenient. why would an A/C be more efficient for me? it would be WAY more inconvenient and would of been more expensive to replace or add another A/C to the house.
Window air conditioners are simple and easy to install dude. You think I exhaust my heat into my house or something?
Probably. Dude I said before I don't care what you do, I am merely saying it is not efficient as it is not efficient. I am simply letting others know there are better alternatives to your system for most applcations. i'm a little confused i think you might of read something wroung.
Yes you do seem to be confused about a lot. and yes, My lights are MUCH closer to the plants than probably any air cooled persons set up is. my plants can touch the glass (they don't touch it though) and not be to hot! although they would get light burn from my 1k bulb lol. it's what running a perfect environment is all about.
Wow, just using 1000 watt lights alone proves your susytem is far from a [erfect growing environment. It am nd allthe other sad choices also show t your system is not a an efficient system and obviously not a great set up orenironment.
things aren't always cut and dry. every situation is different maybe some people are stealthy, or some are located in a weird or small spot. not everyone is comfortable wiring stuff or putting things together themselves. they make products that have warranties and designed for specific functions for a reason.
You beng real fuuny now!!!! but good idea, although i would never do it. ChillKing i think makes chillers that are converted window A/C units.
Yes but they are grossly i over priv ced and lack things like a refrigerant chiller, a site glass a quality evaporator control valve and a head pressure controller. They are worth about 1/3 of their retailed costs.
LOL NOT "absurdly wasteful energy" you don't understand my set up fully, and that cool. I never really, even in my journals, explain/talk about what my basement is set up like or even what the door to my grow looks like for that matter lol. I own but i never take security lightly. I may be legal but it doesn't protect you from thieves. my set up is a lot more efficient than your thinking... i dont have to deal with the heat twice that would be moronic. like putting a big A/C unit in a basement to cool a room only to have to use the houses A/C to cool the basement A/C lol that makes no sense (u should put the bong down j/k hahahaha who am i kidding, pack another one ;) )
My system is awesome, and I love it. A sealed room isn't for everyone tho (nor is perpetual, which is what im trying now... its hard to have everything in order on time and rooted etc. etc.). it takes a lot of work to build and planning. I can get over 2 lbs a light and I still have room for improvement! and that's the truth :) (i still have nutrient things to dial in, i wanna switch brands here soon too) having perfect control over your environment makes it easier to grow a real quality product. people (including myself) depend on my buds for medicine, I want to be able to give em some good medicine.
lol when you actually start growing, you'll realize that spending an extra $200 bucks or whatever your trying to say i did, is worth the peace of mind! definitely. I use dehumidifiers to dehumidify, know why? its what they were designed to do, and i know they will do what they are supposed to. dealing with bud rot or powdery mildew isn't something I want to ever deal with. so spending a couple bucks ain't no thing when it keeps you from worrying.
My electric bill is just under $300 a month. that's with my grow, and a two bedroom 3 bath house. electric stove (and we cook ALL the time too AND bake a lot too!) T.v's, 1 desktop gaming pc (lotsa watts there) and a laptop, and a whole house A/C to boot. that's not bad in my opinion for growing ~2lbs a month AND 2 people living here. I give my meds out for a VERY ridiculously low reasonable price, and free if they can't afford it at the time. i'm not in this for the money. I love growing and smoking myself :)
lol this post got long lol oh well.
Happy Pharming!
-Mystre.Pharmer
