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So adjust my water going in to 6.5ph and stop feeding them. I just did a big flush with Enzymes and Sea Green. I'll let them dry out. However, I have never been one for over watering. On the 3rd day I will put my moisture meter in and if it says moist I will wait a day. Most people go by how heavy the pot is, I go by my meter. Even when I was letting them dry out this was happening. I have been fighting this since clone days.You're over-watering &/ keeping them too wet; Adjust your pH to 6.5 and stop feeding them nutes now
my first run was a breeze and everything came out amazing.
my 2nd run, and my 3rd... problems.
The photos suggest you're still under T5? Is that T5HO? Have you replaced your tubes? They lose intensity after they're used awhile. But, in veg I wouldn't think that would matter much. 2000 hours is a good time to replace.My veg girls are under T5's and my flower is switched into 1000wt HPS lights.
I bought 45 clones and within 5 days they started dying out.
Thank you for your reply. No, it's not confusing haha it is frustrating. So, the photos I posted were from my veg cycle when I was under T5's I didn't get a new photo in flower because at the time of post this is all I had. Sorry for that confusion. I was in Ocean at Veg under T5's now I re-potted into 7 gal using Happy Frog under HPS 1000wts lights. I only have 1 grow of hrs on my bulbs. My first run came out awesome. Got 2.3 lbs per light. Using about 3/4 strength of the heavy16 line. The second run I messed up on my soil and used Ocean Forest which I know now is very hot, and I used full strength Heavy16, so I had a few issues there but still came out 1.8lb per light. I'm only in my 2nd week of flower but if I could somehow help 20 out of 45 plants that would be awesome. The other 25 came from different nursery. I bought 45 at first 25 went bad, bought 20 more hoping I could help the one I had left that didn't completely die. (speaking clones, and early teens)From your other thread, (<<link) it sounds like you're frustrated with some of the help you've received. I hope I don't add to that.
Did anything change between your 1st and 2nd grows? (Anything? at all?). It's really hard to believe everything was good, and then went bad, because of bad karma or something. (wink). There must be some explanation in there. Something must be different.
I grow in Soil ( Ocean Forest) for Veg and Happy Frog for flower.
The photos suggest you're still under T5? Is that T5HO? Have you replaced your tubes? They lose intensity after they're used awhile. But, in veg I wouldn't think that would matter much. 2000 hours is a good time to replace.
Similar thought: how many hours does your HPS bulb have on it?
Are the strains taller than your first grow? Fluorescent light doesn't have great penetration. When I used it for a taller grow, I had a lot of leaf loss around the bottom as the plants entered transition/flower.
I'm confused about which soil you're using. You said you use hot Ocean Forest in veg, and low-nute Happy Frog in flower. It seems like that would be hard to know when to feed, or to have uniform nutrient strength at the roots (some would be hot?).
Did you do this the first time you grew (when things turned out happily)? Like @Beachwalker said, if you're growing in fresh OF soil, I think feeding a full-strength "lineup" would be too much.
I think your problem is with lighting. Your plants don't look bad. They don't look overfed to me. In your other post, you said it's just the lower growth dying which concerns you. I think that's relatively normal, especially with light that isn't high intensity (like T5HO, and especially T5 without the HO part).
But, that wouldn't explain why so many clones died so quickly.
Beachwalker, it was russet mites or broad mites I have. That is the problem. Thank you for all your suggestions. I'm sure if I didn't have these little fuckers what you suggested would of helped.Your perlite suggests over-watering and or keeping it too wet
adjust pH of everything going in to 6.5
Stop feeding; Fox Farm ocean Forest has plenty of newts for plants that size for 4 - 6 weeks and you're feeding much too strong a ppm anyway, try half what the label says when you eventually start feeding again
Follow these above steps & watch the new growth, it should get better
Eventually start to feed at half strength
and stop Flushing
Thank you so much for that. I was killing myself looking for the solution. BTW, the whole crop is gone. All 42 plants had them and they were just getting worse by the day. I started green cleaner, Azamax, sulfer... I would rather take the hit and start over fresh & clean and chalk it up as a learning lesson, rather than get shitty buds and not be able to sell any. I have a professional pest control that is very knowledgeable about spraying cannabis rooms. Everything is out so I can spray and never let that happen again, or try really really hard. LOLZing! I knew it.
Sulfur at 3 TABLESPOONS per gallon or 2 and 1/4 TEASPOONS per 32oz spray bottle.
Spray every other day for 3 weeks and clone away from the moms ASAP. Do not keep the moms or original soil. Use rockwool cubes. Do not get sulfur run off into your soil or cloning medium. You will get lock out of iron.
Heat room up to 120F for 1 hour after your plants are clean.
It’s a long process to ensure they don’t come back. They can live for 21 days with a food source.
quickZing! I knew it.
Sulfur at 3 TABLESPOONS per gallon or 2 and 1/4 TEASPOONS per 32oz spray bottle.
Spray every other day for 3 weeks and clone away from the moms ASAP. Do not keep the moms or original soil. Use rockwool cubes. Do not get sulfur run off into your soil or cloning medium. You will get lock out of iron.
Heat room up to 120F for 1 hour after your plants are clean.
It’s a long process to ensure they don’t come back. They can live for 21 days with a food source.
Quick question. I will be getting some new clones here pretty soon. Can I do sulfer dips with them? They come in rockwool, therefore just take the stem and dip the whole thing in sulfer and let dry? How do I keep the sulfer from running down the stem into the roots after the dip? Or should I just spray them really well? However spray or dip I'm concerned with the solution running into the rockwool. Make sense?Zing! I knew it.
Sulfur at 3 TABLESPOONS per gallon or 2 and 1/4 TEASPOONS per 32oz spray bottle.
Spray every other day for 3 weeks and clone away from the moms ASAP. Do not keep the moms or original soil. Use rockwool cubes. Do not get sulfur run off into your soil or cloning medium. You will get lock out of iron.
Heat room up to 120F for 1 hour after your plants are clean.
It’s a long process to ensure they don’t come back. They can live for 21 days with a food source.
You can flush the sulfur mixture out of the cube if it gets in there. Just know that if you get yellowing at the very top of the plant and it’s an iron def it’s being caused by sulfur and not your nutes or anything else. Its easy to fix if it happens just gotta have your eyes open and catch it early cause it takes a minute for the green to return and iron deficiency will stunt you pretty good.Quick question
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Quick question. I will be getting some new clones here pretty soon. Can I do sulfer dips with them? They come in rockwool, therefore just take the stem and dip the whole thing in sulfer and let dry? How do I keep the sulfer from running down the stem into the roots after the dip? Or should I just spray them really well? However spray or dip I'm concerned with the solution running into the rockwool. Make sense?
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