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Anyone have any techniques for bacterial or fungal inoculation during the flowering stage?
 
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Anyone have any techniques for bacterial or fungal inoculation during the flowering stage?
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Depends on the source of them… pretty much water in and they will adjust their population and location to the food sources in the media or given off from the roots
 
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Anyone have any techniques for bacterial or fungal inoculation during the flowering stage?
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A liquid culture syringe just like substrate inoculation in mushroom cultivation. A long liquid culture/spore syringe will put it right where you want it to start out.

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A liquid culture syringe just like substrate inoculation in mushroom cultivation. A long liquid culture/spore syringe will put it right where you want it to start out.
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Exactly this… and they spread fast so just like hand grenades close is good enough
 
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I do a lot of inoculation during the propagation and transplantation stage and do my best to keep that system live through out, I know how to inoculate. I'm just wondering if there is specific blends of bacteria or fungi that would be better suited to introduce during flower versus the starter blends. For example I've seen some people do a top dress with an inoculation during the beginning flowering to increase root growth on the surface of the soil medium and maybe repopulate with mycorrhizae. Idk, I'm wondering if there is a different type of inoculation blend that would be better specifically for the flowering period.
 
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A liquid culture syringe just like substrate inoculation in mushroom cultivation. A long liquid culture/spore syringe will put it right where you want it to start out.
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I feel like if you have the right bacterias in your inoculation blend getting the spores closer to the root isn't really the issue, I think its more about wether or not they are actually germinating and or surviving to infect the roots. If bacteria chemistry isn't right the inoculation doesn't always work as well from what I understand.

But yeah I used to grow mushrooms too, that would be dope to have glomus interaradices liquid cultures.
 
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oops, misunderstood. My bad! Yep, great question: "is [there] specific blends of bacteria or fungi that would be better suited to introduce during flower versus the starter blends[?]"

 
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oops, misunderstood. My bad! Yep, great question: "is [there] specific blends of bacteria or fungi that would be better suited to introduce during flower versus the starter blends[?]"
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I've just noticed when I inoculate with my starter blend during flowering something is going on and the plants don't respond well.
 
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Yeah misunderstood also… not quite what the title states nor the first post lol.

it depends what you are looking to accomplish… there is a huge variety of microbes that perfom different functions… its not as simple as flower and veg
 
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I've just noticed when I inoculate with my starter blend during flowering something is going on and the plants don't respond well.
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Seems logical that the soil microbiome would change with the plant stage.
 
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It just doesn't seem right to inoculate with the same blend when the plant chemistry changes during flowering and has different needs. I know that once the plant has different needs it will repel or attract different microbes to fit those needs. Sorry if my post was misleading.
 
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I wonder if maybe more bacteria with protective properties would be better since the flowering stage is more stressful and more prone for disease. But also not to make the plant focus too much on defense instead of producing flower.
 
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Yeah misunderstood also… not quite what the title states nor the first post lol.

it depends what you are looking to accomplish… there is a huge variety of microbes that perfom different functions… its not as simple as flower and veg
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Do you inoculate during flower with the same blend as propagation?
 
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In that case you want bacillus amyloliquefaciens
 
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Do you inoculate during flower with the same blend as propagation?
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Well it depends on media… in hydro there are many that are beneficial but not well suited
 
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Well it depends on media… in hydro there are many that are beneficial but not well suited
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With hyrdo it seems the bacteria is mostly protective and filling a space that a pathogen might fill.
 
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In that case you want bacillus amyloliquefaciens
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I try to avoid using single strains of anything as they definitely work better together. I don't think anyone really knows quite yet as this is a fairly new research.
 
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I try to avoid using single strains of anything as they definitely work better together. I don't think anyone really knows quite yet as this is a fairly new research.
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Not so much when you add multiple they need to play nice or one will outcompete and kill the other.

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Not so much when you add multiple they need to play nice or one will outcompete and kill the other.

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Well these blends have been formulated to be symbiotic with each other, but thats an interesting point to bring up as I tend to avoid introducing inoculation after propagation and transplant for that exact reason, so I don't disrupt the balance of the soil biome.
I just feel like the single strains don't work as well, also quality control and shelf life issues.
 
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Not so much when you add multiple they need to play nice or one will outcompete and kill the other.

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another reason i'm not a fan of compost teas for soil
 
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