So in a nutshell its better to do cloning on photos instead of autos.Once an auto flower starts the timer starts and flowering for it will be the same as the mother so it wont have time to root, grow and be a productive.
In other words if the mother has 60 days left, the clone would have 60 days left.
That is my understanding anyway.
So in a nutshell its better to do cloning on photos instead of autos.
Although I agree with some of what you are saying I can't with the above and I did show where it is more versatile of a plant than that.Once an auto flower starts the timer starts and flowering for it will be the same as the mother
Thats interesting and unusual. I had always heard that it was counter productive. So in response to the original poster do you think he should or should not?Although I agree with some of what you are saying I can't with the above and I did show where it is more versatile of a plant than that.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/my-mid-summer-autos-try.171430/page-6
and I started a third grow but fucked her up.
The adventures of Shelley Frankenauto
The adventures of Shelley. She is an Amnesia Haze Auto that was germinated on Sept 5th harvested Nov 7th kept alive and harvested a second time Ten days ago. You can see her other grows here...www.thcfarmer.com
I think he should. What's the worst that can happen, it fails and the cutting dies?Thats interesting and unusual. I had always heard that it was counter productive. So in response to the original poster do you think he should or should not?
Also, do you have any other data as I have 4 autos in flower now in desparate need of lollipoping/defoliating and now might be a good time to attemp.
My next concern is the appropriate time frame of when to cut to attempt. May or maybe not be this grow but id definitely like to try my hand at it. I read somewhere that you should cut when a branch is about 7 inches.I think he should. What's the worst that can happen, it fails and the cutting dies?
What data? Cut it, root it and find out. My comment was addressing that Shelley proved that this supposed constraint of our concept of age isn't exactly what the plant calculates when deciding it's immediate level of maturity. And it's not tethered to the mother plant or else these new growth shoots that she grew would have immediately went into flower and not reveg'd.
I haven't explicitly cloned which is why I said I agree with some of what you said and the time needed to simulate new root growth may impact the results that I saw with an established plant with established roots growing new shoots.
Again, what's the worst than can happen? But think of the knowledge gained! Do it. I'll watch for sure to see how it comes out in the wash.
No I dont want to try it without more promising data. I just dont have the time. I can legally only grow 4 plants at a time. I will however do more research and see what the majority consensus is.I think he should. What's the worst that can happen, it fails and the cutting dies?
What data? Cut it, root it and find out. My comment was addressing that Shelley proved that this supposed constraint of our concept of age isn't exactly what the plant calculates when deciding it's immediate level of maturity. And it's not tethered to the mother plant or else these new growth shoots that she grew would have immediately went into flower and not reveg'd.
I haven't explicitly cloned which is why I said I agree with some of what you said and the time needed to simulate new root growth may impact the results that I saw with an established plant with established roots growing new shoots.
Again, what's the worst than can happen? But think of the knowledge gained! Do it. I'll watch for sure to see how it comes out in the wash.
No I dont want to try it without more promising data. I just dont have the time. I can legally only grow 4 plants at a time. I will however do more research and see what the majority consensus is.
Research or forum posts? Research is very scant if not nil. Forum posts, it's hit and miss and take the AI and throw it away because it's just regurgitation of what it finds coalesced into a bright quip of rubbish.I will however do more research and see what the majority consensus is.
Its possible but pointlessIs it hard to clone and root autoflowers? Thinking about in time cloning the plants i have that just switched over to vegetative stage instead of popping more seeds. The idea behind cloning is fascinating to me and would like to try my hand at it down the road
Grow four of five times of the same strain and see how it grows and behaves then decide on the best time, if at all. It could be some strains are better than others at cutting propagation.My next concern is the appropriate time frame of when to cut to attempt. May or maybe not be this grow but id definitely like to try my hand at it. I read somewhere that you should cut when a branch is about 7 inches.
Why? seriously, I am not trying to be a smartass.Its possible but pointless
Because the clone unlike a clone from a photoperiod, will be the age of the plant you cloned except tiny, it will flower at the same time regardless of development, so there really is no point. A normal clone you can leave in veg as long as you want, its practicalWhy? seriously, I am not trying to be a smartass.
I appreciate the reply, and your opinion is valued and could be correct, but as I have already addressed, what I saw in my growth of Shelly (an Auto) that was harvested twice and vegged again for a third, that the new shoots grown were not automatically flowering even though her calendar age would have predicted, as you insist, such. Whereas instead grew through two vegetative stages into a two flowering stages and harvested twice. Could the rooting process impact that? Maybe.Because the clone unlike a clone from a photoperiod, will be the age of the plant you cloned except tiny, it will flower at the same time regardless of development, so there really is no point. A normal clone you can leave in veg as long as you want, its practical
I guess that depends on definition of effort? And that’s open to individual interpretation and to me there is no additional effort versus a seed germination grow. Both require special attention. Cost benefit analysis may show some change in seed vs. clone but that depends on yield which is highly dependent on growing variables, even within same strain. So whether there is an advantage of one over the other would largely just depend. In my opinion.I am still in the “no clone group” but, lets say you were going to lollipop anyway and you had the additional room. Do you think rooting the lollipopped stems would produce enough of a yield (after rooting and recovering) to be worthwhile of the additional effort?
I think not but curious what you all might think. Never hurts to be curious unless you’re a cat.
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