Is this early root rot?

batchainpllr · Aug 29, 2023

2 plants shown.
Both same strain, nutrients, water, everything.
Plant on right is yellowing, left is not.
A lot of rain recently and the area of the yard where the right plant is located is wetter.
Any thoughts?

GNick55 · Aug 29, 2023

batchainpllr said:
2 plants shown.
Both same strain, nutrients, water, everything.
Plant on right is yellowing, left is not.
A lot of rain recently and the area of the yard where the right plant is located is wetter.
Any thoughts?
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same strain?
we’re they the same colour before..
everything looks fine to me..

batchainpllr · Aug 29, 2023

Yes they are both the same strain:
Gelato Cake.
They were all the same colour til recent heavy rain, now have are still dark green and half yellowish as shown in pic.
Any thoughts as to why the one on the right side of picture is so yellow comparatively ?

Trash_2002 · Aug 29, 2023

batchainpllr said:
Yes they are both the same strain:
Gelato Cake.
They were all the same colour til recent heavy rain, now have are still dark green and half yellowish as shown in pic.
Any thoughts as to why the one on the right side of picture is so yellow comparatively ?

The right one could benefit from a Nitrogen rich organic fertilizer amendment for sure

batchainpllr · Aug 29, 2023

But...
Both plants got equal nutrients and only one yellowed.
Also it yellowed right after heavy rain and over the course of just 2 days ?!

Trash_2002 · Aug 29, 2023

batchainpllr said:
But...
Both plants got equal nutrients and only one yellowed.
Also it yellowed right after heavy rain and over the course of just 2 days ?!

One need more food, maybe that side got more leached with rain?

Clones.or.from.seed?

batchainpllr · Aug 29, 2023

Clones
I sprinkle organic nutrients on top (seabird guano and Longbeinite) and water them in with tap water that has molasses added to it.
Then the rain leeches it in more, slowly.
They get plenty of phosphorus, calcium, magnesium, potassium and sulphur but no nitrogen although I do top dress with earthworm castings.
This is how they looked right BEFORE I added more nutrients, also right before the heavy rainfall.

batchainpllr · Aug 29, 2023

Actually now I see the one on the right was already yellowing

GNick55 · Aug 29, 2023

batchainpllr said:
Clones
I sprinkle organic nutrients on top (seabird guano and Longbeinite) and water them in with tap water that has molasses added to it.
Then the rain leeches it in more, slowly.
They get plenty of phosphorus, calcium, magnesium, potassium and sulphur but no nitrogen although I do top dress with earthworm castings.
This is how they looked right BEFORE I added more nutrients, also right before the heavy rainfall.
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those are too close for comfort.. mildew or pest than what?
i’d try spreading them apart..

batchainpllr · Sep 7, 2023

They are in the ground, can't be moved.
Here's a pic of one that fell over during the heavy rain. It has been doing poorly since, Gotta be root rot.

Dustytrails · Sep 7, 2023

I’ve found with the “outdoor side” of my grows that I have to use a greenhouse type free-standing structure over the top of my girls to prevent excessive moisture from f-ing my buds, I also allow more air to get to the base of my plants, I trim the bottom of my bushes up a full 1’ to promote better air around the base of my girls.

batchainpllr · Sep 7, 2023

Sounds like good advice, during the last weeks they always get and stay wet.
Should I start pulling off the fan leaves now? They are 4-5 weeks from finish.
This one no doubt was hurt when it fell over as shown. Probably had trouble after that with uptake.

LoveGrowingIt · Sep 7, 2023

batchainpllr said:
Should I start pulling off the fan leaves now? They are 4-5 weeks from finish.

You could. I do it, but I do it gradually. It probably would help to clean out the center of the plant to improve air flow. That plant has had plenty of stress, though, so maybe it would be best to let it heal before defoliating.

batchainpllr said:
This one no doubt was hurt when it fell over as shown. Probably had trouble after that with uptake.

No doubt indeed. It looks like the damage is below ground level, which makes it more complicated. There's a good chance disease from the soil could get into the plant. Maybe you could remove some soil and tape around the broken part.

batchainpllr · Sep 11, 2023

Trying but plant is Not doing well
Also I watered with hydrogen peroxide a week or so ago, it was looking better...
then I watered it again.

Kamisama · Sep 11, 2023

When u grow in soil, I think its better to use bacterias and myccorhizae instead of peroxide, that will kill even the good thing there.

Next time perhaps try growing in big airpots. Easier control. Having heavy rains a whole week migh hurt the plant a lot.
Flowering will be prolly hard without a simple greenhouse and reduced humidity (u ll need fans to take out humidity from inside)

batchainpllr · Sep 30, 2023

the sick plant has not made it.
Now the other plants are having a problem.
they have white spots on the leaves which appear to be powdery mildew.
It hasnt rained in two weeks. There has been warm temperatures with mildly cooler nights, low humidity and near constant light breeze. They have not been over-watered.
In the past I have seen these spots come and go without problem.
This time the leaves seem to be suffering.
Two questions:
1. Can this spread to the buds ?
2. Even if not, can this condition on the leaves effect in any way how the buds finish (potency, time, taste, etc.) ?

Moving forward and thinking about treatment I understand that baking soda should clear up the problem but am concerned because the buds will of course also get wet with the water/soda mix.
More questions:
1. is it even safe to smoke a bud that has been saturated with baking soda ?
2. If not, will this treatment effect the way the bud finishes (harm the pistils, decrease potency/resin, effect how long they take to finish, change the taste, etc.) ?
3. Is it better just to remove all the leaves since they are no longer really needed and should be at least somewhat removed anyway as the plants will breathe better,etc. ?

The pistils are still quite white and I`d say still have 2 weeks to go.
That being said, they still don`t have the amount of resin I`m used to at this point and VERY little scent.

GNick55 · Sep 30, 2023

batchainpllr said:
the sick plant has not made it.
Now the other plants are having a problem.
they have white spots on the leaves which appear to be powdery mildew.
It hasnt rained in two weeks. There has been warm temperatures with mildly cooler nights, low humidity and near constant light breeze. They have not been over-watered.
In the past I have seen these spots come and go without problem.
This time the leaves seem to be suffering.
Two questions:
1. Can this spread to the buds ?
2. Even if not, can this condition on the leaves effect in any way how the buds finish (potency, time, taste, etc.) ?View attachment 2050167 View attachment 2050168 View attachment 2050169 View attachment 2050170
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Moving forward and thinking about treatment I understand that baking soda should clear up the problem but am concerned because the buds will of course also get wet with the water/soda mix.
More questions:
1. is it even safe to smoke a bud that has been saturated with baking soda ?
2. If not, will this treatment effect the way the bud finishes (harm the pistils, decrease potency/resin, effect how long they take to finish, change the taste, etc.) ?
3. Is it better just to remove all the leaves since they are no longer really needed and should be at least somewhat removed anyway as the plants will breathe better,etc. ?

The pistils are still quite white and I`d say still have 2 weeks to go.
That being said, they still don`t have the amount of resin I`m used to at this point and VERY little scent.

told ya they were too close for comfort..
best bet use a pump sprayer with a mix of peroxide and water at a strength of at least 5%.. soak her.. you’ll have to treat till the end and bud wash also..
you have an indoor grow?
probably infected already if so..

batchainpllr · Sep 30, 2023

No indoor but several growers in the area experiencing the same thing, in and out.
Something in the air?
These are way too rooted in the ground to dig up, next year new place and further apart.
Trimming leaves now.

batchainpllr · Oct 9, 2023

Two odd things seen on 2 different plants

Toohighmyguy · Oct 9, 2023

First picture, I don't know what the hell that is. But it ain't right. Second picture is mold not rot. You have a mess

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