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I don't know if I have stressed my plants to the breaking point or not. They still look pretty healthy except for some dying leaves every once in a while. I made a soil mistake which nearly took them out, but I had to replant twice and they came back. Right now they are about a foot tall and it's been 3 months. Do you think they are to stressed to flower?
 
Without pics we are flying blind but if it's just getting the occasional leaf becoming discolored, it's probably just moving some of the transient nutrients around and we could start a debate about whether or not that's the kind of deficiency you really need to worry about. Try not to get hung up on what any one fan leaf is doing on its own. It's patterns we want to watch for... early signs of them.

If you do happen to run into a deficiency, just know that sick leaves don't magically fix themselves. The way you know it's getting better is no new leaves turning sick. If I'm in that boat I mark my sick leaves so I have a good sense if I'm still having problems or if I'm just looking at evidence of an old one.
 
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Hey there @clark1033 its tough to say without any photos. Go ahead and post a few pics of whats going on and let the good folks at the Farm help you out!! 👍🏼

Hey there @clark1033 its tough to say without any photos. Go ahead and post a few pics of whats going on and let the good folks at the Farm help you out!! 👍🏼
 

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You got clawing shape on all your plants and mottling throughout on that one plant. I suspect it picked up a disease rather than stress because it's the only one looking like that. It may just be stress, but I would isolate it from the others to prevent spread just as a precaution. As for the clawing, that's a generic sign that the plant isn't content and you're going to have to figure out why. In order, you can probably figure out what's causing it:

Watering issue - too wet or too dry
Nitrogen toxicity
Temperature/humidity/VPD
Lighting issue (duration, not intensity)
 
I see indications of overwatering and magnesium and calcium deficiency. They also could be rootbound in those plastic pots. Plastic also doesn't allow much gas exchange and evaporation for the soil.

Clawing can be a sign of nitrogen toxicity (that is, too much nitrogen). I don't think that's a problem here, though, because the clawing is more curved downward. These are just drooping because they're unhealthy.

Do you think they are to stressed to flower?
They're struggling, but they can recover, and they could flower. These plants can be surprisingly resilient.

Can you pull a plant out of its pot and post a picture of the roots? That could tell us a lot. The soil should come out of plastic pots easily.

It would also be helpful to know the temperature, humidity, light intensity, and nutrients.

The first thing to do would be to transplant them to 3- or 5-gallon fabric pots. Also add a generous amount of perlite to the new soil (to enhance porosity). The plants will need 3 days to a week to adjust to the new soil. Watch how they respond to decide what to do next. That would include less frequent watering and probably the addition of calcium and magnesium.
 
First pic and two root pics, second Pic and two roots pic. The last Pic is a recent replant that seems to be thriving right now. I'm using 60% Fox Farm soil, 30% Perlite, a 10% mixture of horse manure and liquid nutrients once every other week..
 

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I see indications of overwatering and magnesium and calcium deficiency. They also could be rootbound in those plastic pots. Plastic also doesn't allow much gas exchange and evaporation for the soil.

Clawing can be a sign of nitrogen toxicity (that is, too much nitrogen). I don't think that's a problem here, though, because the clawing is more curved downward. These are just drooping because they're unhealthy.


They're struggling, but they can recover, and they could flower. These plants can be surprisingly resilient.

Can you pull a plant out of its pot and post a picture of the roots? That could tell us a lot. The soil should come out of plastic pots easily.

It would also be helpful to know the temperature, humidity, light intensity, and nutrients.

The first thing to do would be to transplant them to 3- or 5-gallon fabric pots. Also add a generous amount of perlite to the new soil (to enhance porosity). The plants will need 3 days to a week to adjust to the new soil. Watch how they respond to decide what to do next. That would include less frequent watering and probably the addition of calcium and magnesium.
 

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