Justiceman's grow: The quest for Resin

justiceman · Nov 16, 2009

DAY 1

Hey guys I have recently begun my second grow(first journal) so here is the low down on equipment.

Medium:Roots Organics potting soil
Space: 4x4x7 Grow lab tent
Ventilation: 6 inch active air inline and 6 inch booster fan(to cool the lamp) plus 2 6 inch clip fans for inside air movement.
Light: 400w Eye Hortilux Super HPS with Lumatek(going to purchase 600w for flowering)
Nutrients: General Organics
Pot size: White 2.5 gallon(10l)
Strains: 3 Grandaddy purple and 3 Green Cush(crack)

So I took the Roots organics potting soil, and I inoculated it with Great White killer roots mycorrhizae and bacteria. Interestingly enough the "potting soil" is based mostly off of Coco coir, but it has some peat in it as well. I am aiming to Ph my nutrients at around 6.1-6.3 because I believe the coco requires a slighter lower ph but since it's not completely coco i probably wont drop it to 5.8. So far the girls are staying perked up but it hasn't been long so we shall see. They were all healthy lush green when I obtained them so things are going stress free so far. Yes I am currently vegging with a Super HPS but it has some added blue. To be honest I really wanted to try out a 6.4k Sun pulse but the shop was out of stock of the 400w. I considered buying the Hortilux blue, but I don't really want to pay the same price for something that gives of 15,000 less lumens. So I'm vegging this run with the hps but next run I will obtain the 6.4 Sun pulse.

As of right now my temps when the light is on variate between 66 and 70 degrees plus my humidity is around 39%. I am a little concerned that it might be to cold for "day time" what do you guys think? Possible ways to fix this is turn off the 6 inch booster fan that air cools my light. I have tried it and then my temps go up to 75-80(witch I have heard is optimal).

I am completely open to suggestions and comments. Thanks for looking!

supasticky · Nov 16, 2009

I'll be watchin mayn.

-Supa

Shady · Nov 16, 2009

Nice tent Justiceman! Much better than that 10 sf closet on your first round... I think you are gonna be fine with the Hortilux Super HPS for veggin' as I used my 600w to veg my two big girls... And I wish I had the same problem of being too cold! Btw how far is that light from the babies? I was lit and it looked deceiving having those picts next to each other...

justiceman · Nov 17, 2009

Dude tell me about it. That 10sqft closet was crap lol. Ya i mean I vegged with my last grow on this hortilux and they did just fine. I just really want to "branch out" next grow and try out a 6.4 sun pulse just to play around and see if it does any better or not. Ya man I am digging the temps I am running at the moment. I was able to adjust them to around 74.

Ya sorry I noticed that after the post that those pics might be misleading on the light height. They are actually two separate photos haha. At first I wanted to see how they would take to the light so I put them about 24-30 inches away, but after I saw that they were doing Ok i decided to move it to about 18 inches away, with that adjustment it put my temp to 74 right next to the plants. Perfect!

supasticky · Nov 17, 2009

:rasta2:SMOKE DANK ALL DAY:rasta2:

-Supa
:party0044::boogie::party0044:

justiceman · Nov 18, 2009

3 x 3 Tray!

Hey guys I just got my 3 x 3 tray! I'm pretty excited about it because it will make my job much easier when I water. Instead of taking each plant out of the tent to water I will just water all of them in the tray stationed in the tent. The run off will deposit itself into a container of my choosing witch I will probably give to the outside garden. Here are some pics with the plants on the tray.

Question: I just opened my General Organics call mag and it smells weird. Its ingredients are calcium, magnesium, and molasses. I thought those three ingredients don't really go bad. It has a rancid sour smell that burns my nostrils. I don't really think I would like to add it to my girls. Do you guys think I should just chuck it and be safe?

DazedNconfussed · Nov 18, 2009

Nice clean setup...Ill be eager to see what your total yeild is with that setup. I'm thinking about doing something nearly identical but with a 600 hps setup.

justiceman · Nov 19, 2009

DazedNconfussed said:
Nice clean setup...Ill be eager to see what your total yeild is with that setup. I'm thinking about doing something nearly identical but with a 600 hps setup.

Thanks dazed. Yes I am also eager to see what I yield. My first grow consisted of vegging under a 400w then flowering outside and it turned out great, but now it's winter so its all indoors this time around. I am actually thinking about getting a 600w when I start to flower. A 400w is perfectly fine for veg period and saved me 200w of electricity especially during the longer hours. Here is a pic of my previous 400w veg with the same lamp and ballast.

justiceman · Nov 21, 2009

Nutrient change!

Hey guys I cracked open my General Organics, and for some reason they smell sour. They do not give off that earthy smell generally associated with Organics. They give of a noxious smell that literally burns my nostrils. I don't feel comfortable using it. Luckily I got it as a free sample line up so I didn't pay anything for it. So now I have decided to instead use the whole Roots Organics line up. Since It hasn't been long I have just been letting my girls feed on the food already packed into the soil. I happened to have a sample of roots trinity from the garden expo and have used that in order to feed my soil microbes.

Rolln J · Nov 21, 2009

sometimes nutes will go bad - especially if stored in too warm a place - i left a bottle of gh micro grow rolling around in the back seat of my truck for 2 days over the summer like a dumbass - it smelled moldy - 40 bux down the tubes - not to mention Im 50 minutes from the grow shop!

digging the tent and the nice clean setup.

justiceman · Nov 22, 2009

Day 6

Rollin J I will def learn from your experience to never let a nute bottle sit in my car in the sun haha. Man 50 minutes away!.

Day 6
Hey guy's so it hasn't been long but I'd like to show you the new growth that is starting to come in. I have a feeling they will start going crazy with growth very soon. The only thing I have given them so far is mycorrhizae, Roots Trinity, and some cal mag. Check em out and let me know what you think so far. I am considering doing a foliar spray with either extreme serene or some cold processed sea kelp(same thing) except the extreme serene is 0-2-2 where as the cold processed sea kelp I have is .01-0-0. I think I will go with the latter since extreme serene has no nitrogen.

Question: Does anyone know whether I need to supplement my R/O water with cal mag? I know that usually one does this, but the Roots Soil contains Green sand, Glacial rock dust, and oyster shell flour. Those should supply the trace minerals, but would R/O water flush them away? Or are the ingredients sufficient enough so that I can just add pure R/O and not worry about it? If i do need to add Cal mag what should I add to keep it completely organic instead of using Cal mag plus. Crushed up dolomite or green sand in my Roots guano teas?

Green Cush(this one looks like it has a slight phosphorus deficiency on that left leaf. I am pretty sure their is phosphorus in the soil because it contains rock phosphate, but I have heard it is easily locked out. I am hoping that the microbes continue there eternal battle for domination and release some locked up P in the process. I don't beleive it to be a big problem though because the new growth looks perfectly fine. Might have just been a type of transplant shock.

supasticky · Nov 22, 2009

flamboastin.

-Supa

justiceman · Nov 24, 2009

Day 8

Hey guys I know its only been two days since my last picture post but I really want to show you how far they've come in just 2 days!:heart:heart:heart:heart

I will soon start to administer the Roots Nutes.
By the way I have a question about Foliar Sprays. Does one need to PH adjust them? I am hesitant of giving them my kelp spray because it has a ph of 4.1

supasticky · Nov 24, 2009

yah pH your spray too.

justiceman · Nov 24, 2009

First tea!

ya I read that some people PH their sprays and some don't I did it just to be safe.

Okay guys I am going to give them their first tea when the lights turn on. When they went off earlier I foliar fed them with extreme serene. Here are the ingredients of the tea as follows. All measurements are per gallon.

10ml big buddah grow(EWC, bat guano ect.)
10ml ancient amber(fulvic acid aka humates)
5ml extreme serene(sea kelp ect.)
10ml trinity(molasses, amino acids, humates ect)

Here is a picture of my tea. It looks like it will do much justice. Only 2 hours after putting in the ingredients!

justiceman · Nov 26, 2009

Day 10

Hey guys here is a pic a couple days after the tea. They have definitely shot up! enjoy!

Open to comments and suggestions!
http://i23.invalid.com/albums/b389/kingoflessthen3/Day10.jpg

supasticky · Nov 27, 2009

I think your plant with the spots is just light burn, but it's probably already past it by now.
They're already bigger than when I saw them.

-Supa

justiceman · Nov 27, 2009

You may be right about that Supa. They are really taking off now man.

justiceman · Nov 29, 2009

day 12

Hey everyone day 12 here. I know the posts have been frequent but I like to keep everyone updated on the new happenings. So far the growth has been excellent for just 12 days. I have one possible problem though. I believe I might have "toxic salt" build up and it seems to affect the Green Cush more then the Grandaddy. However I don't use any salts, except for Earth juice natural PH up witch consists of potassium bicarbonate(certified for organic crop production) I have heard that with organics its unnecessary to PH adjust but having a 4.0 ph tea is a little scary to me so I had to bump it up to 6. Should I just not worry about the low ph and give it to them without the ph adjust? In any case here are some pictures of the standing leaf fringes. I have heard that these symptoms occur when the leaf is trying to get rid of excess moisture but is unable to because of either, salt build up, or heat stress. I know I don't have heat stress because my temps don't get above 76 so I really think its build up of this Natural PH UP. I think I am just going to run straight water through them in order to hopefully flush out the excess salts. good idea?

And here is just a family shot

supasticky · Dec 3, 2009

:confused0059:Where you been?:confused0059:

I think your soil is too moist and the plants can't release water fast enough so the tips are bending a little. Maybe let of the water for a minute and let them get it out of their system. IMO.

-Supa

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