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making perfect sense - thanks!
yes i think the mli is a hybrid of two pre-soviet afganis (that are quite similar) but from what ive read its pretty stable - i guess a little bit of variation, as you say, may make for a better choice of phenos.
i spose the other end of the scale would be a poly hybrid like Jack the ripper - that would mean much bigger variation in the offspring yes?
heres the rub - i can only flower 4 plants at a time, or i guess i could do 9 small sog style ones - my cab is just over 2' square!
i guess if you are looking for keeper mums then variation is good, but i think with my size restrictions that crossing stable strains will give more consistent results?
and please talk for as long as you can be bothered to - i have the thirst for knowledge!
Since so little pollen is needed for small scale breeding, im guessing a small t5 or 100w hps would be fine for flowering the male?
I need to set a male only area badly. Right now im flowering a few males with my crop thats a week from being done and the males are 1 week into flowing and then Im putting in new plants hoping to dodge the pollen on both ends. lol Then try and dry and freeze the pollen for when i want it. to much bs
I threw some males i kept in veg into my flowering room and the flowers look like they are gonna bust soon. I was gonna grab my pollen by using robert clarke's method as mentioned in the marijuana botany book.
is the best way to dry it now and collect that way or to use the catching method by wrapping the stems with baking paper and collecting that way ?
Also do the pro farmers out there think that males that show their pollen fast are indictave of a faster finisher pheno. So for example if i found a similar size female of the same type that was a fast finisher it should be the same pheno?
Does that make sense or have i had too much smoke :P
respect and peace.. this is great info !
generally speaking, yeah. if you have "stable" parents, then the offspring shouldnt show as much variation as a result from an open pollination using various parents. but variations will show...
in a smaller style cabinet, yes, i would look for a good "stable" stock. like you mentioned, the pure is a good choice. but there are many others.
LUI/Herijuana/Deep Chunk/PineTarKush/C99/Skunk1/the list really goes on and on without some sort of final goal in mind.....
-what strain are you using for a mother and whats your overall goal?
stability? uniformity? yields? finishing time? flavor? etc etc...
i think youve got the basic understanding of it all right?
-pick a mom
-have a goal in mind
-pick/take cuts of potential daddies
-do the nasty after labeling them
-grow the offspring and pick the winning papa
- i guess my goal is just to try and have as much variety as possible and to have seeds to keep for a rainy day and swap with others.
the only mum i have at present is a decent blueberry that is both vigorous, high yielding and stable (lucky)
but, as you suggested, my intention is to keep a cutting of everything i grow and then i have the option of keeping a mum if i particularly like the strain.
as for collecting pollen, i would be scared to do that near my grow, but i read method that involved taking a stem off the male, putting a hole in a plastic bear cup and poking the stem through, and then putting this bear cup in a regular cup of water so the stem is sitting in the water. at most times of year you can then collect pollen in the bottom of the beer cup by keeping the whole thing on the windowledge - that is the method i will try first i think.
i guess this is also a way which you could collect pollen from other males that are culled - just take a stem first and keep the pollen.
am i right in saying that pollen will keep for a few months in the freezer
do you know how a humans gonna look and act before its born? even knowing the parents for many years?it seems crazy that we dont know for sure if positive traits such as early flowering in males are passed on to females!
nope.ps, when you said "grow the offspring and pick the winning papa" - did you mean mum???
still working on those links, but, in the meantime, youve got a few more questions, so lets address those, while im here:
nope.
if you grow out the seeds and the final smoke is excellent, than the papa, as well as the mum, are winners. usually, if the smoke is weak, or bad, its because of a bad papa selection, for, most mothers wont really ruin a cross, or make it weaker, for, thats what most worked pot today is....a selection for good smokeable mothers....
did that make sense??
as far as the topic of this thread,AT, i would add that for your goals you might want to consider crossing two seperate proven Inbred lines (IBL)Such as Afhgan and Durban ,or dozens of others,to create F1 hybrids.This will offer the homebreeber two big things.First,unifomity and pretty good chance of predictable offsping from both lines and second youll get hybrid vigor from the crossing of two stable unrelated lines(BB will be good here IMO).meaning your seeds will almost definetly be strong ,healthy and uniform.
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