KiLo's KILO'S

[Lurkin4yrs]

;)

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

Wtf, ban his ass.

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

Only asked if ya could put pics on screen not jpeg.and I never once said anyone did anything wrong ,ino its my end.im using a poxty Windows Phone at the mo.
So plz don't get ya hair off with me,just tell me no cant help ya...no probe.im new to all this so I don't know what I'm doin half the time.but I've always said its me that cant access files not you ballsing em up...but anyhow,I ain't put nothing up as I showed ya were I'm at.I've just put another 8 little cheese cuts in that aeroponics mister I made.the new ones are thriving,but them 4stunted ones not so great.i took the little one out and stuck it in some coco to make space.if ya interested ill attempt more pics tomorrow.

I apologize for the ranting at you bud i had a really bad day and it was like a topper to see you say that again but no biggie as I said earlier tho it is the cache and cookies are just to big for your phone not that you can't view then just can't get enough power to load them and also as I Saud again I do use it as full image photos and no jpeg ever it fucks with my posting when I put it up.........

DAMN kilo you are working with, some killer gear man o whish I can get to your skill level, can I post a pic of my sour boggle, des tar cantaloupe skunk? Please! !!!

Thanks for your kinds words bud but I am afraid that I have to decline your request no thread stomping here or anything else just my setups and your enjoyment sorry to disappoint....... I am sure it's great and all that you can message it to me if you like but not here I would like to keep this one nice and clean you can however head over to the night owls club and post anything you like there but be warned we are a bit odd and have no real direction of the thread

Wtf, ban his ass.

WHO? someone talking shit where he at who are they who are they.....

 

[keiksweat]

.no problem,wot ya got going on today?did you scrap the bio buckets idea?I'm starting a couple of my little ens off in coco I've decided.I've a big bucket full already mixed up with bennies in,so thought id put it to good use.never done any coco growing before,how often do I feed n water.there only little mug size potz to start em.any advice would be appreciated..keik...

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

Nah there was a spammer lol

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

Ik lol that was my impression of Redman on how high someone should have said it's rowing j rock and I'm captain of the team and if it was in time i probably would say we'll Bart fart you got skills in it

 

[nations maze]

Thanks kilo all the glory is your a lol I understand conpletely u gave me advice and it worked splitting the two seedlings props brother and I'll pm u a few picks

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

To be honest bud, it's not about glory it is about consistency of the contents! Now if you were in a titan flo n grow system it would be a whole different situation, or really just ebb and flo bucket systems in general!!! Brand is not entirely important. Thats all there is to that, which is why I offered to have you get on the nite owl club. Simply we are just generally talking and bull shitting tossing around growing ideas whayever sprks the group is it with a period. Then lots more subjects as well should come up in time or you can suggest or just start one.... really wasn't trying to be like an ass and say no its my thread you simply can't post here lol I know some people are that way. I am not just want to keep certain threads of mine clean and tidy for the masses

 

[nations maze]

He'll yeah brother we in this plan of passion to find the best dank n learn together share what we know cause that means give back to our community pretty new n I look up to guys cause that's where I want to be ........I got nothing but respect love and peace for our pass on of this magical, majestic plant

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

Alright Hello Everyone sorry for my absence of the last few days. I have been really busy with the "Clash Of The Hands Off Policy" oregon has taken and giving all the responsibility for and control of cannabis law to the liquor control board. Talking with them about commercial licensing and the individual wholesale licensing, it has been a real job of keeping up on the new daily information contained within what could be called A book that is still just a ruff draft, for the stupid F@#%¡•* retarded and plain $hit@$$ law they are creating, I also have been making alot of public safety concern statements within the hearings about how they seem to have clear intentions of making itimpossible for anyone to be a grower or run an actual business as owners along with the banking and claiming taxes not being available and illegal under federal and state law due to SB|280

Yet they us want us to pay them for being taxed a whopping possible 25× from seed to public sale... YEAH YOU HEARD ME CORRECTLY POSSIBLY 25 TIMES,These taxe going between growers, wholesalers and then the retailers whom none of can be more than one of........ so you can't grow and sell your own products as any other business in the country can do say something like duck/buck commander have been doing for years. To say the least We are quite pissed off about this as well as many other reasons for outburst in the council meets. They are even taking shots at the medical patients with a new proposal and thought process that is basically saying.... Well we have recreational weed why do we even have need for a medical program anymore make them follow the rules of the REC laws..... WOW!?! What a wet stinky heavy load¿¡


However let's just move on to better less depressing subject matter. Since I have a few other things that should not be said lol.


I do have a few updated toys to share. But I will get to that a little later.


Firstly I would like to show off the crazy, freaky, cool, and possibly groundbreaking projects with hormones, That I am Studying/Theoring with on my freaky deeks.

So to start off I want to make clear that I have been looking into this and many similar projects ~ (including for human genetics) ~ now for a few years, So far from what I can gsther/find of the process and from other people who are growing herbs and vegetables, In which they are also using hormonal substitute's. Beginning in the early development stages of flower or at the turning point for c3/c4 plant type schedule changes, While looking for good/proper responses from the genetic makeup information change as a result of hormone applications and the individual strain of each plant in question, strangly enough it varies greatly from strain to strain of tomato to the point no two are the same while the individual pools show signs of the same effect's.

After much deliberation and the I think I can Choo choo Method lmao.

I finally found A individual about four months ago, that had alot of great info on what I was interested in as well as after speaking with him via email.
I am now a little wee bit more educated on the workings of hormones and genetic equilibrium and it's genral makeup response. Very much like big tobacco concepts without the use of mass chemicals.

To continue and get on(This post may be a bit longer than usual)But it's so awesome to learn about. ; ^)

He is a tomato farmer from southern California and has been studying the same of the effect's that this unusual law in/of natural selections by influence, by ways of the tomatoe plant's / in my case ~ cannabis plant / hormonal traits and the genealogy including the overall health of the genetic equilibrium as well as the DNA (in which does seem to be altered. To be addressed here is the fact that,
He honestly is getting some awesome and very interesting results in his own workings with these hormonal substitute's and gene swap methods of procreation. But this is not what's going to happen in my own tests.

My quest on the other hand is on a separate mission than he is all together "getting bigger and bigger matos" as he says lol. The main reason i wont do this is the method being of a highly toxic chemical & quirmte narcotic nature IMO, and overhauling the same strains over and over again as well as breeding it within the next generation of plants. I'm a big advocate of the Deseminization of such Freak plants as to not have wide spread contamination of what I consider BAD GENETIC MAKEUP this includes the base projects I will be working on. Well nicely done I am glad your still interested and reading let's move on to the last bit the project it's self.

So me/myself and I on the other hand just want a 4 week flower time with regular seed plants and their families makeing a 30 day strain from start to finish.
So far from what I can tell on the outside that is, That I am just a little bit off with the hormone mixture and/or what specific ones to use.
However I within this test alone I was givin a pretty good idea of where to start, as well as knowing indefinitely I am on the right track. Or headed down it and Just in the wrong town.

To explain what i have done So far, I First in the vegg cycle gave her a hormone suplex, with Cannabidiol estrogen's and deleteed acidity entirely from the water with a oil blocker making them think a big PH flux goin up has happened while in coco vegg mix also with a very high salt content to really confuse the shit out of them doing this got the process going fairly quickly with signatures of pre flowering for three weeks at two weeks from clone this could have been only another two instead of 3 but i wanted to keep a long, close eye on them to make 99% sure it was doing this and not actually full budding.

Then once determined that the preflower was just that she was put into flower. Since then I have been thru a lot of talks with my neo that has Expanded my ideals to include the practices in the following method's, starting with a Perfect PH of 5.8 also A light estrogen spray every day very light and i mean it when I say very light, only about a drip in a gallon, also went pretty light on the nutrient solution being less salty more foodies (think I will go full strength on nutes next time tho she is a bit light with air for what the available strains abilities are) thus makeing for easy uptake. And not to sound too exaggerated or anything. But.... This shit is off the chain, hollow earth theory, Madd Max Pain, shot the unicorn and ate it type of stuff to make a proper description to fit the bill...!!!

Let me just put it this way.
This is most definitely the first time i have ever seen a plant do anything like this ever in any way. Its absolutely amazing just to watch her produce so much and change in size and shape so much all in the same day alone much less the overall or end picture. Then to top it all off with a pretty little bow she be finished already and it is barely even the end of week 3 into flower. OMFG WHAT HAVE I DONE..........It's a MONSTAR!¡! {Thats a Monsanto pun for those out of the loop there}

So to recap, here we are three weeks into flower, mind you that is after the pre flowering she was having from the hormones in vegg. she didn't go ruderails or even full flower until 3days after flipping. Didnt have any ruderalis family in the gene pool to swap too for that matter.... well as far as I know that is. Guess I could have been lied to about the genetic line her mom came from this I doubt very much.
However, With the results I have gotten I can certainly proclaim, (If I am successful in the end) That hormones are definitely going to be worth all the effort and time put in from me and crew taking another long loooooonnng hard look into plant and human hormones, plus their effects within and the natural hormones made by them in the early development stages of both cycles of life (Sex selection & flower inducing phenotypes or hormone selection within the plant under question.
Then taking only the cannabis plant mentality/physicality and hormonal changes that she has when being flipped or has a specific Schedule time/Life cycle change occur in her life be it normally or induced by me.

Thinking back about all i have learned from this experiment and after doing much research, I can surely tell you they go through some really crazy stuff inside kind of like a moody teenager whom is also a hermaphrodite while having to go through getting her first period and dropping his balls at the exact same time with the mind set of two separate genders together in one head. JEEZUZ and Dam oh dam would that not be the most absolutely shitty fucked up 2 weeks of your entire life or what lol.

But i do have an overall plan coming together nicely.

My goal here is to unlock those same hormones that choose sex and the flowering stage of the plant,with a hormone introduction via me.

Now before I go on, I would like to stress to anyone still reading that this is potentially and most likely very dangerous and could be and most likely is extremely hazardous to your own physical health and you then jeopardize the safety of your own hormones.
So please for the sake of your junk and rest of your body do not attempt this at home!!!
I am an experienced handler and have an extra pair of trained hands to help me out, So at the very least dont try it before knowing a very good deal of what it is and an even better idea of the workings within such techniques as well as the most important thing you need, a dam good BIO suit duct taped on your wrist and legs thick gloves and a REAL BIOHAZARD suite with breather mask so you dont get anything on you, or even worse breath in any microscopic bit of the hormones, they really can and will make you grow new stuff you didnt have before, or maybe even have some other things fall off you would never want too.

So the way I see it is like this, the plants after being treated are kind of like a tranzsexual male having to use hormonal boosters before getting their junk swaped out to be a female only she lied to the doctor and is actually a female already because she wanted bigger tits faster and didn't explain it to them..... LMAO.
Anyway needless to say I will not be smoking any of these girls at all. then not even after being tested at the biology lab. So until they head to the lab for dozens of different tests that i will save for later updates and personal info.

Now to end this magical hat trick in a fashion fit for it and all its freakydeek ganglys. Is this......

What I have gotten out of this test was somewhat obvious, being some extreme physical appearance differences, paired and or sided with the super fast flowering time like seriously fast to say the least, this one is going 50/50, foggy/amber as we speak with a pungant sour skunk smell you wouldn't believe (somewhat like a good wiff of the weed cookie jar while the unmistakable smell of a new kid on the block with a bad B.O. smell everyone calls him gooy toes by the end of week one lol. This At only week three and she was nearly drown in the nutrient solution for a few long hours, as I had stated in earlier postings I had a pump go out beginning of the day and went on for 7hrs or more without drainage. I am sure that provided I do proper blind testing over a dozen or more times, That within a year later in life. I should have a great deal of the cannabis genealogy and even the most important part, The human and cannabis gnome and equilibrium.I think this project will be dubbed The (CGP) The "Cannabis Genome Project" duly and confidantly named after (HGP) The Human Genome Project, Coding our own DNA. where in i have taken much of the information about the same exact processes that happen in human genetics and DNA when artificially altered well what we know of so far anyway.
I then in my mental madness or genius? IDK something like that, I hope to have built and stabilized DNA of my kikeing and finished at least one, full interbreeding cycle before making them A non breeding Or "deseminized" cannabis strain type.
Clearly done by hormonally removing the male aspects of the cannabis plant or even in the DNA if that is at all possible (IDK). So If I do wind up in having a true success of this, I cant even fathom the amount of quality medicine one could potentially produce in the shortest time periods in history and should be plain astonishing to see, hopefully I can do all of this with very little or no adverse effects of the Delta9 or Turpine content in the DNA of each given strain I atempt to create as well as not harm the rest of the cannabis plant traits we all have come to know, love and want to keep around.

Well everyone....

What do you all think of my mad scientist jackel&hyde crayziness? And before you even say it IK, I KNOW it sounds like something of a Monsanto "GMO" BS but it is not really the same in any shape or form. IMO as well as others whom try this. May have been where the idea originally came from however IDK.
I do personally think it would benefit alot of people who are growing for them self with little room or small lighting as well as making it safe to distribute out to the millions of people who have a need for such a plant,as it's being of the deseminized nature and cannot will not breed with anything ever, therefore it can't have a later effect on any of the other gene pools of cannabis or anything else for that matter!

Well anyone who actually did thanks ver much for reading everything here. Hope it was an instant like&share with the best friend list good day everyone and please let me know what you think or if you feel like asking me about the process I may or may not be willing to give you some of the information, however I will say that I am only willing to give you so much of what i got. Mainly because the work was very hard and tedious the information is impossible to get + needing the proper approval and license to use and handle hormones such as these to even begin to learn about the effect's well just not easily let go of information on my part but i will do my best to explain anything you would like to get a better understanding about.

June 19th day one hormonal application

July 2nd in the first few days of hydro system and flip seeing the begining stages of morphed leafs popping up all over and preflower turning full flower

July 14th one in a half weeks in flowering stage and booming like a freight train going off the rails


And here she is as of three days ago on the 27th of this month and had half foggy enrichment of trichomes enclose her in a sticky stank of epic pre portions. Threw her in the dark till today.

And finally here she is today go figure on what's going on in her eyes but she be done babay

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

That was like a 20+ paragraph post lol, I'll have to read it later =) welcome back!

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

Sorry everyone It is a dam long one and double posted pics but it is well worth the read so try and bare with me on that one or just skip it if you like no difference to me either way this is why I don't post from mobile devices and wait till I get home but today is a special occasion for information education LMAO..... Thanks for your thoughts and time put in the thread and as always GLHF

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

That was like a 20+ paragraph post lol, I'll have to read it later =) welcome back!

Yeah sorry for that had to be completely detailedinformation or it would have been no good to anyone who is doing these projects and experimental gene swapping on cannabis. Buried in a few places are great bits for the wise or curious tho so you should try and swing back for more than a skim ;^) thanks for looking in bro GLHF

 

[Toaster79]

That was like a 20+ paragraph post lol, I'll have to read it later =) welcome back!

+1

 

[keiksweat]

Alright Hello Everyone sorry for my absence of the last few days. I have been really busy with the "Clash Of The Hands Off Policy" oregon has taken and giving all the responsibility for and control of cannabis law to the liquor control board. Talking with them about commercial licensing and the individual wholesale licensing, it has been a real job of keeping up on the new daily information contained within what could be called A book that is still just a ruff draft, for the stupid F@#%¡•* retarded and plain $hit@$$ law they are creating, I also have been making alot of public safety concern statements within the hearings about how they seem to have clear intentions of making itimpossible for anyone to be a grower or run an actual business as owners along with the banking and claiming taxes not being available and illegal under federal and state law due to SB|280

Yet they us want us to pay them for being taxed a whopping possible 25× from seed to public sale... YEAH YOU HEARD ME CORRECTLY POSSIBLY 25 TIMES,These taxe going between growers, wholesalers and then the retailers whom none of can be more than one of........ so you can't grow and sell your own products as any other business in the country can do say something like duck/buck commander have been doing for years. To say the least We are quite pissed off about this as well as many other reasons for outburst in the council meets. They are even taking shots at the medical patients with a new proposal and thought process that is basically saying.... Well we have recreational weed why do we even have need for a medical program anymore make them follow the rules of the REC laws..... WOW!?! What a wet stinky heavy load¿¡


However let's just move on to better less depressing subject matter. Since I have a few other things that should not be said lol.


I do have a few updated toys to share. But I will get to that a little later.


Firstly I would like to show off the crazy, freaky, cool, and possibly groundbreaking projects with hormones, That I am Studying/Theoring with on my freaky deeks.

So to start off I want to make clear that I have been looking into this and many similar projects ~ (including for human genetics) ~ now for a few years, So far from what I can gsther/find of the process and from other people who are growing herbs and vegetables, In which they are also using hormonal substitute's. Beginning in the early development stages of flower or at the turning point for c3/c4 plant type schedule changes, While looking for good/proper responses from the genetic makeup information change as a result of hormone applications and the individual strain of each plant in question, strangly enough it varies greatly from strain to strain of tomato to the point no two are the same while the individual pools show signs of the same effect's.

After much deliberation and the I think I can Choo choo Method lmao.

I finally found A individual about four months ago, that had alot of great info on what I was interested in as well as after speaking with him via email.
I am now a little wee bit more educated on the workings of hormones and genetic equilibrium and it's genral makeup response. Very much like big tobacco concepts without the use of mass chemicals.

To continue and get on(This post may be a bit longer than usual)But it's so awesome to learn about. ; ^)

He is a tomato farmer from southern California and has been studying the same of the effect's that this unusual law in/of natural selections by influence, by ways of the tomatoe plant's / in my case ~ cannabis plant / hormonal traits and the genealogy including the overall health of the genetic equilibrium as well as the DNA (in which does seem to be altered. To be addressed here is the fact that,
He honestly is getting some awesome and very interesting results in his own workings with these hormonal substitute's and gene swap methods of procreation. But this is not what's going to happen in my own tests.

My quest on the other hand is on a separate mission than he is all together "getting bigger and bigger matos" as he says lol. The main reason i wont do this is the method being of a highly toxic chemical & quirmte narcotic nature IMO, and overhauling the same strains over and over again as well as breeding it within the next generation of plants. I'm a big advocate of the Deseminization of such Freak plants as to not have wide spread contamination of what I consider BAD GENETIC MAKEUP this includes the base projects I will be working on. Well nicely done I am glad your still interested and reading let's move on to the last bit the project it's self.

So me/myself and I on the other hand just want a 4 week flower time with regular seed plants and their families makeing a 30 day strain from start to finish.
So far from what I can tell on the outside that is, That I am just a little bit off with the hormone mixture and/or what specific ones to use.
However I within this test alone I was givin a pretty good idea of where to start, as well as knowing indefinitely I am on the right track. Or headed down it and Just in the wrong town.

To explain what i have done So far, I First in the vegg cycle gave her a hormone suplex, with Cannabidiol estrogen's and deleteed acidity entirely from the water with a oil blocker making them think a big PH flux goin up has happened while in coco vegg mix also with a very high salt content to really confuse the shit out of them doing this got the process going fairly quickly with signatures of pre flowering for three weeks at two weeks from clone this could have been only another two instead of 3 but i wanted to keep a long, close eye on them to make 99% sure it was doing this and not actually full budding.

Then once determined that the preflower was just that she was put into flower. Since then I have been thru a lot of talks with my neo that has Expanded my ideals to include the practices in the following method's, starting with a Perfect PH of 5.8 also A light estrogen spray every day very light and i mean it when I say very light, only about a drip in a gallon, also went pretty light on the nutrient solution being less salty more foodies (think I will go full strength on nutes next time tho she is a bit light with air for what the available strains abilities are) thus makeing for easy uptake. And not to sound too exaggerated or anything. But.... This shit is off the chain, hollow earth theory, Madd Max Pain, shot the unicorn and ate it type of stuff to make a proper description to fit the bill...!!!

Let me just put it this way.
This is most definitely the first time i have ever seen a plant do anything like this ever in any way. Its absolutely amazing just to watch her produce so much and change in size and shape so much all in the same day alone much less the overall or end picture. Then to top it all off with a pretty little bow she be finished already and it is barely even the end of week 3 into flower. OMFG WHAT HAVE I DONE..........It's a MONSTAR!¡! {Thats a Monsanto pun for those out of the loop there}

So to recap, here we are three weeks into flower, mind you that is after the pre flowering she was having from the hormones in vegg. she didn't go ruderails or even full flower until 3days after flipping. Didnt have any ruderalis family in the gene pool to swap too for that matter.... well as far as I know that is. Guess I could have been lied to about the genetic line her mom came from this I doubt very much.
However, With the results I have gotten I can certainly proclaim, (If I am successful in the end) That hormones are definitely going to be worth all the effort and time put in from me and crew taking another long loooooonnng hard look into plant and human hormones, plus their effects within and the natural hormones made by them in the early development stages of both cycles of life (Sex selection & flower inducing phenotypes or hormone selection within the plant under question.
Then taking only the cannabis plant mentality/physicality and hormonal changes that she has when being flipped or has a specific Schedule time/Life cycle change occur in her life be it normally or induced by me.

Thinking back about all i have learned from this experiment and after doing much research, I can surely tell you they go through some really crazy stuff inside kind of like a moody teenager whom is also a hermaphrodite while having to go through getting her first period and dropping his balls at the exact same time with the mind set of two separate genders together in one head. JEEZUZ and Dam oh dam would that not be the most absolutely shitty fucked up 2 weeks of your entire life or what lol.

But i do have an overall plan coming together nicely.

My goal here is to unlock those same hormones that choose sex and the flowering stage of the plant,with a hormone introduction via me.

Now before I go on, I would like to stress to anyone still reading that this is potentially and most likely very dangerous and could be and most likely is extremely hazardous to your own physical health and you then jeopardize the safety of your own hormones.
So please for the sake of your junk and rest of your body do not attempt this at home!!!
I am an experienced handler and have an extra pair of trained hands to help me out, So at the very least dont try it before knowing a very good deal of what it is and an even better idea of the workings within such techniques as well as the most important thing you need, a dam good BIO suit duct taped on your wrist and legs thick gloves and a REAL BIOHAZARD suite with breather mask so you dont get anything on you, or even worse breath in any microscopic bit of the hormones, they really can and will make you grow new stuff you didnt have before, or maybe even have some other things fall off you would never want too.

So the way I see it is like this, the plants after being treated are kind of like a tranzsexual male having to use hormonal boosters before getting their junk swaped out to be a female only she lied to the doctor and is actually a female already because she wanted bigger tits faster and didn't explain it to them..... LMAO.
Anyway needless to say I will not be smoking any of these girls at all. then not even after being tested at the biology lab. So until they head to the lab for dozens of different tests that i will save for later updates and personal info.

Now to end this magical hat trick in a fashion fit for it and all its freakydeek ganglys. Is this......

What I have gotten out of this test was somewhat obvious, being some extreme physical appearance differences, paired and or sided with the super fast flowering time like seriously fast to say the least, this one is going 50/50, foggy/amber as we speak with a pungant sour skunk smell you wouldn't believe (somewhat like a good wiff of the weed cookie jar while the unmistakable smell of a new kid on the block with a bad B.O. smell everyone calls him gooy toes by the end of week one lol. This At only week three and she was nearly drown in the nutrient solution for a few long hours, as I had stated in earlier postings I had a pump go out beginning of the day and went on for 7hrs or more without drainage. I am sure that provided I do proper blind testing over a dozen or more times, That within a year later in life. I should have a great deal of the cannabis genealogy and even the most important part, The human and cannabis gnome and equilibrium.I think this project will be dubbed The (CGP) The "Cannabis Genome Project" duly and confidantly named after (HGP) The Human Genome Project, Coding our own DNA. where in i have taken much of the information about the same exact processes that happen in human genetics and DNA when artificially altered well what we know of so far anyway.
I then in my mental madness or genius? IDK something like that, I hope to have built and stabilized DNA of my kikeing and finished at least one, full interbreeding cycle before making them A non breeding Or "deseminized" cannabis strain type.
Clearly done by hormonally removing the male aspects of the cannabis plant or even in the DNA if that is at all possible (IDK). So If I do wind up in having a true success of this, I cant even fathom the amount of quality medicine one could potentially produce in the shortest time periods in history and should be plain astonishing to see, hopefully I can do all of this with very little or no adverse effects of the Delta9 or Turpine content in the DNA of each given strain I atempt to create as well as not harm the rest of the cannabis plant traits we all have come to know, love and want to keep around.

Well everyone....

What do you all think of my mad scientist jackel&hyde crayziness? And before you even say it IK, I KNOW it sounds like something of a Monsanto "GMO" BS but it is not really the same in any shape or form. IMO as well as others whom try this. May have been where the idea originally came from however IDK.
I do personally think it would benefit alot of people who are growing for them self with little room or small lighting as well as making it safe to distribute out to the millions of people who have a need for such a plant,as it's being of the deseminized nature and cannot will not breed with anything ever, therefore it can't have a later effect on any of the other gene pools of cannabis or anything else for that matter!

Well anyone who actually did thanks ver much for reading everything here. Hope it was an instant like&share with the best friend list good day everyone and please let me know what you think or if you feel like asking me about the process I may or may not be willing to give you some of the information, however I will say that I am only willing to give you so much of what i got. Mainly because the work was very hard and tedious the information is impossible to get + needing the proper approval and license to use and handle hormones such as these to even begin to learn about the effect's well just not easily let go of information on my part but i will do my best to explain anything you would like to get a better understanding about.

June 19th day one hormonal application View attachment 526147

July 2nd in the first few days of hydro system and flip seeing the begining stages of morphed leafs popping up all over and preflower turning full flowerView attachment 526170

July 14th one in a half weeks in flowering stage and booming like a freight train going off the rails
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And here she is as of three days ago on the 27th of this month and had half foggy enrichment of trichomes enclose her in a sticky stank of epic pre portions. Threw her in the dark till today.View attachment 526175
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wow,that was cool mate.be interesting to see how far you can push your idea.cant wait to read lab report..shame ya cant get some bum to smoke a bowl see if he morphs into a blunt...

 

[Lurkin4yrs]

Crazy!

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

wow,that was cool mate.be interesting to see how far you can push your idea.cant wait to read lab report..shame ya cant get some bum to smoke a bowl see if he morphs into a blunt...

Ah ha yes indeed this will be the way to go wouldn't it....... I am sure that It will not be hard to find one either hell half the people who are not growing here these days are street urchins and they are always dry as a bone but yet still soaking wet behind the ears somehow....

Well on the real tho after having actually thought about it, I'm surely not gonna do that to someone, simply just going to wait on going to the lab and asking around there after i get my results back for her and I hope to god she is at least clean enough for me to taste........

The look... the smell.... the irony...... the agony...... WTF MAINE

I just really am hesitant to even touch her bare handed while trimming her up, cuz the hormones in her have to be like mor than just extremely bad for a human to ingest or smoke off of ? IHDK but surely more like possible to have serious physical effect's because from what we know and is available for review is that plants well most of them anyway, share nearly the exact same hormonal attributes as we have on the other hand however we do get lots and lots of estrogen's pumping into our bodies every single dam time we drink or eat from anything plastic or cover anything we eat or hold often in plastic wrapers especially cellophane and saran wrap. One of the most popular ways to package most all foods drinks and quickly becoming this way for building materials.....??? Ya let's go live in the house estrogen's built rite after we all sync up our minstrel cycles??? With everything the way it is this day in age and with plastics being the highest level of contamination of all human necessity products ! So i am just going to ask my buddies down at the labs what they think of the compounds i have used and their chemical properties when cooled, heated ,vaporized or especially when smoked I would think that is, if it even has any potential dangers in this way whatsoever. Again IHDK I do know the answer to if the compounds used are dangerous and the answer is yes if the full strength compounds touch with skin it instantly absorbs into your skin then blood then by morning men have boobs and women grow a piky finger for a clit (its a penis) but it was only givin as the Schedule change occurs in their mentality and makes them do nuts wacky things that should not be able to happen and certainly never would have in nature..... anywho here are some trimmed up pictures of her for you all to get a better look at the structure of the buds.......

So the lab finally got back to me about my endeavor to test on all the different levels of DNA and gene swapping not a genetic modification just don't want this getting confused or lopped back to me and my advice.... so anyway they wanted me to bring a concentrate of her if at all possible to get so i cut this branch off and ran it through my tube with some 20 loop clipper

 

[SmokesalotofVT]

Quite the Endeavor .. sounds scary working with them hormones..
Curious what the lab tests tell you.. good luck &Stay safe~!

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

Sorry bit of a run on again but really like to be complete in my opinion and in my research papers I do for myself to keep track of my previous experiences with the implementation of the best cross examination I can possibly create

Quite the Endeavor .. sounds scary working with them hormones..
Curious what the lab tests tell you.. good luck &Stay safe~!

Yeah a little bit for sure but it is in a one gallon jug in a three gallon jug in a five gallon jug lmao and it is not necessarily the first time i have ever had to work with an eventual perpetual death train to nowhere near timbucktoo sorta by kalamity but definitely right next to me and it is a top priority to be the ultimate safety nerds when we get ready to open that bucket I get all weird feeling about the time we suit up, But to be completely honest with you it really is not that dangerous just a little bit of a life changing experience if you are effected within your genes.

Even more so for me than others because of the problems of cancer physical defects from many sorces along with other physical health issues I have been or still am going thru.

For this reason I stay real organic in my food and physical health so i always feel less susceptible to having something like this screw me for life! most likely the safety nerd has just got the better of me. I say this because, As i said earlier We live in an over run estrogenic or feminizing environment this day in age.

For example.
Xenoestrogens, such as PCBs, phthalates, pesticides and DDT, cause estrogenic effects. Although banned in 1972, DDT, like its breakdown product DDE, is a xenoestrogen, which is still present in the environment. Chlorine and hormone residues in meats and dairy products also can have estrogenic effects. In men, the estrogenic environment may result in declining quality of sperm or fertility rates. In women, it may lead to an epidemic of female diseases, all traceable to excess estrogen/deficient progesterone.

With that in mind this is the reason ¥
It is critical to incorporate a pure, clean diet consisting of organic foods whenever possible in an effort to decrease exposure to harmful xenoestrogens.

The interaction of the receptor dimer with the estrogen response element, located in the promoter region of the genes ... In the case of a pure estrogen, like estradiol or DES, the activation will affect all of the estrogen-dependent genes and in turn will have adverse effects on both male and female hosts then we also have to consider the following pre disposition of a BPB and BPA wasteland the plastics can create in your body Many BPA-free plastics may leach potentially harmful BPA-like chemicals, a dilemma Mother Jones explored on the plastics industry earlier this year. But consumers have had no way of knowing which of the items lurking in their pantries might wreak havoc on their hormones. Until now. A new paper in the journal Environmental Health identifies specific plastic products—including AVENT baby bottles, CamelBak sippy cups, and Lock & Lock food storage containers—that leach estrogen-mimicking chemicals. Perhaps more importantly, it also names a few options that are hormone-free.

Between 2010 and 2013, scientists from CertiChem, a private lab in Austin, tested 50 reusable BPA-free plastic containers. In most cases, they used a line of human breast cancer cells that multiplies in the presence of estrogen, as well as substances like BPA that mimic the female hormone. The researchers found that some products leached hormone-altering chemicals even before being exposed to conditions, such as heat from a dishwasher or microwave, that are known to unlock potentially toxic chemicals inside plastic. And most containers did so under some circumstances. After exposure to the type of ultraviolet rays that are found in sunlight (UVA) and used to sterilize baby bottles (UVC), more than three-quarters of the containers tested released synthetic estrogens.

Are There Hormone-Altering Chemicals in Your Household items or worse your Plastic drinking Bottles?

 

[keiksweat]

Sorry bit of a run on again but really like to be complete in my opinion and in my research papers I do for myself to keep track of my previous experiences with the implementation of the best cross examination I can possibly create

Yeah a little bit for sure but it is in a one gallon jug in a three gallon jug in a five gallon jug lmao and it is not necessarily the first time i have ever had to work with an eventual perpetual death train to nowhere near timbucktoo sorta by kalamity but definitely right next to me and it is a top priority to be the ultimate safety nerds when we get ready to open that bucket I get all weird feeling about the time we suit up, But to be completely honest with you it really is not that dangerous just a little bit of a life changing experience if you are effected within your genes.

Even more so for me than others because of the problems of cancer physical defects from many sorces along with other physical health issues I have been or still am going thru.

For this reason I stay real organic in my food and physical health so i always feel less susceptible to having something like this screw me for life! most likely the safety nerd has just got the better of me. I say this because, As i said earlier We live in an over run estrogenic or feminizing environment this day in age.

For example.
Xenoestrogens, such as PCBs, phthalates, pesticides and DDT, cause estrogenic effects. Although banned in 1972, DDT, like its breakdown product DDE, is a xenoestrogen, which is still present in the environment. Chlorine and hormone residues in meats and dairy products also can have estrogenic effects. In men, the estrogenic environment may result in declining quality of sperm or fertility rates. In women, it may lead to an epidemic of female diseases, all traceable to excess estrogen/deficient progesterone.

With that in mind this is the reason ¥
It is critical to incorporate a pure, clean diet consisting of organic foods whenever possible in an effort to decrease exposure to harmful xenoestrogens.

The interaction of the receptor dimer with the estrogen response element, located in the promoter region of the genes ... In the case of a pure estrogen, like estradiol or DES, the activation will affect all of the estrogen-dependent genes and in turn will have adverse effects on both male and female hosts then we also have to consider the following pre disposition of a BPB and BPA wasteland the plastics can create in your body Many BPA-free plastics may leach potentially harmful BPA-like chemicals, a dilemma Mother Jones explored on the plastics industry earlier this year. But consumers have had no way of knowing which of the items lurking in their pantries might wreak havoc on their hormones. Until now. A new paper in the journal Environmental Health identifies specific plastic products—including AVENT baby bottles, CamelBak sippy cups, and Lock & Lock food storage containers—that leach estrogen-mimicking chemicals. Perhaps more importantly, it also names a few options that are hormone-free.

Between 2010 and 2013, scientists from CertiChem, a private lab in Austin, tested 50 reusable BPA-free plastic containers. In most cases, they used a line of human breast cancer cells that multiplies in the presence of estrogen, as well as substances like BPA that mimic the female hormone. The researchers found that some products leached hormone-altering chemicals even before being exposed to conditions, such as heat from a dishwasher or microwave, that are known to unlock potentially toxic chemicals inside plastic. And most containers did so under some circumstances. After exposure to the type of ultraviolet rays that are found in sunlight (UVA) and used to sterilize baby bottles (UVC), more than three-quarters of the containers tested released synthetic estrogens.

Are There Hormone-Altering Chemicals in Your Household items or worse your Plastic drinking Bottles?

I watched a documentary on current tv about this.in the middle of the sea there's a huge collection of crap ,plastics half broken down stuff.anyway these scientists were towing a raft behind them collecting this stuff and testing it.they had also been testing children.in coastal areas.and they found that the transparent plastic bottles cause more females,and male children were being affected to the extent of if we don't stop ingesting this males would be more like females.scary shit.espeacialy all the clear plastics we drink from daily.