Kim's Beginner Diary

KLight03 · Feb 13, 2020

Also, I forgot to mention, I took pictures of the tops of the tallest one to show where I see other evidence of something eating. Maybe I dropped feed water on them or something. I will say, we do have a problem with these weird ants that like soap. It's the flooding season here, so it may be ants getting bad here again. We are on the top floor of the house. For some reason, why am I thinking they are friends with cannabis? Not sure why I have that stored in my brain.

When you say a drop of soap, can I add a drop of Dawn dish detergent to it? I have heard of putting that on all vegetables and such.

Also, yes, to sending chocolate recipe. I appreciate the offer. I was pondering a chocolate simple syrup yesterday, but I am horrible at sauces. It did cross my mind to call the French restaurant across town to see if they would teach me all about sauces.

Right now, I'm going to go make my daughter cereal bars. I'm going to put some tincture in the melted marshmallow butter. Have you tried it before? I'm hoping it doesn't cause everything to separate. I wish I could have one.

KLight03 · Feb 13, 2020

One of the saddest things to watch is when people can't be truthful with their intent because they are sitting in judgement thinking new energy is coming to take their toys. I can't tell you how many times I have lost respect for plenty of leaders who make decisions based on fear for losing something they own, or think they own. It's not what causes the lack of respect, it's when a person isn't brave enough to admit they have made a mistake in judgement. When people realize the Universe is abundant, that's when one can truly start living. Life is not meant to be lived harnessing envy, jealousy, greed, or hate.

This is based on a recent observation. I will stick to this small corner of this forum.

dire wolf · Feb 13, 2020

Hi k , I'm still traveling so it's difficult to find time to answer all of the topics at once
Yea the nematodes are predators that eat the larva , and such , of the destructive pests ,
They come in microscopic batches living in a small blue sponge , you just cut a tiny piece of sponge and drop it in a gallon of water , then hundreds ? More ? Thousands
Get saturated in the soil and live there eating up everything till they run out of food , then they die....
Not sure how well they work in coco, again havent used that medium
I'll research it

The chocolates are fairly simple
Just need to Decarb (heat in your oven )some buds , and make a butter , I use a sous vide cooker

Then it's a little tricky to temper the melted butter with the melted chocolate and pour into a silicon candy mold

And I'll give you an estimated grams / milligram dose for the chocolate , usually I make a 5 or 10 milligram dose....

You might want to skip " topping " your plants , they are getting big and you may want to flip to 12/12 this week....

You really need to inspect the underside of the leaf asap before any further decisions

Deff want to start knocking out mites before taking any next steps
Including clones....

Identify any pests , fungus gnats , thrips , mites are the most common

Whatever you " might " have , dosent seem to be doing much damage yet , so you can get on top of it now

Your plants look well fed , maybe a slight tip burn , so I think you are doing good with your feed schedule ......

Also , going to have to fine tune the humidity , you don't want to run into problems during flowering stage , I remember you saying a while ago that the leaf bottoms were dripping wet in the morning , that's not going to work out well in flower cycle .....

dire wolf · Feb 13, 2020

khalt03 said:
One of the saddest things to watch is when people can't be truthful with their intent because they are sitting in judgement thinking new energy is coming to take their toys. I can't tell you how many times I have lost respect for plenty of leaders who make decisions based on fear for losing something they own, or think they own. It's not what causes the lack of respect, it's when a person isn't brave enough to admit they have made a mistake in judgement. When people realize the Universe is abundant, that's when one can truly start living. Life is not meant to be lived harnessing envy, jealousy, greed, or hate.

This is based on a recent observation. I will stick to this small corner of this forum.

KLight03 · Feb 13, 2020

dire wolf said:
Hi k , I'm still traveling so it's difficult to find time to answer all of the topics at once
Yea the nematodes are predators that eat the larva , and such , of the destructive pests ,
They come in microscopic batches living in a small blue sponge , you just cut a tiny piece of sponge and drop it in a gallon of water , then hundreds ? More ? Thousands
Get saturated in the soil and live there eating up everything till they run out of food , then they die....
Not sure how well they work in coco, again havent used that medium
I'll research it

The chocolates are fairly simple
Just need to Decarb (heat in your oven )some buds , and make a butter , I use a sous vide cooker

Then it's a little tricky to temper the melted butter with the melted chocolate and pour into a silicon candy mold

And I'll give you an estimated grams / milligram dose for the chocolate , usually I make a 5 or 10 milligram dose....

You might want to skip " topping " your plants , they are getting big and you may want to flip to 12/12 this week....

You really need to inspect the underside of the leaf asap before any further decisions

Deff want to start knocking out mites before taking any next steps
Including clones....

Identify any pests , fungus gnats , thrips , mites are the most common

Whatever you " might " have , dosent seem to be doing much damage yet , so you can get on top of it now

Your plants look well fed , maybe a slight tip burn , so I think you are doing good with your feed schedule ......

Thank you for your patience with my million questions at different times. I think what I will start doing is, write my questions down, walk away for a bit and come back. I've noticed I've been doing it in life, too. That way, you a thousand messages won't be waiting. Where do I get them?

What would happen if I topped them later than normal?

Neem oil arrives tomorrow. I seriously appreciate the putting them in the shower trick.

I accidentally made tincture that was 1900mgs by my calculations. (I can do med math, did it for years). Can I add tincture straight to chocolate? Guess I will try. Ha! If you don't hear from me in a week, you'll know I'm still sleeping because my calculations were off.

I have that other light hooked up and everyone separated and airy, so all seems well for now. It's like they got a whole new lease on life or something. Leaf explosion.

dire wolf · Feb 13, 2020

Yes dawn dish detergent should be fine , like an eye drop in a liter .....

dire wolf · Feb 13, 2020

Yea I've never heard or seen anyone do my shower trick , my wife got annoyed at first , but a quick change of the plastic liner ( not even necessary) and a blast of hot shower water , cleaned it all up in seconds .....

Everyone I tell says damn why didn't I think of that
A lot of people stink up the grow room and get angry

I guess some plants are too big to move into the shower

But you usually want the mite problem under control before flowering ....

dire wolf · Feb 13, 2020

If you top them now , or later this week , no problem
I just imagined for some reason that you were anxious to flip the plants
I would only suggest that if you top , that you wait at least a week after topping , to get the plants back on track and develope a set of new bud sites .....
If you do it now , it won't set you back much timewise
And mites or no mites
you can still top the plant
It's not like they are going to take over a weakened plant ......

dire wolf · Feb 13, 2020

I had a thought the other day and forgot to tell you
You should get in your tent and zipper it shut with the lights off and make sure there are no light leaks
Light leaks are one of the new growers worst mistakes

It will mess up the dark cycle , cause confused growth and possibly hermaphrodite Your plants

Don't even take a little peek in the box when lights are out

In veg no big deal , in flower , huge problem

basscaptain · Feb 13, 2020

your just going to have to deal with the hum..... keep a few fans going and the open a vent in the tent...... put black patty hoes over the vent to dalk out the little ligth you may get........

youre going to have it for the next 3 months with the rain this place seems to get...........

good move on the light they need it..............

KLight03 · Feb 13, 2020

basscaptain said:
your just going to have to deal with the hum..... keep a few fans going and the open a vent in the tent...... put black patty hoes over the vent to dalk out the little ligth you may get........

youre going to have it for the next 3 months with the rain this place seems to get...........

good move on the light they need it..............

I forgot about the flooding season here. Ugh. I can't even be sure we aren't in a floodzone, but I'm assuming not since I'm sure where we live we are at a higher elevation. It's going to be like this until middle of March. Good thing you are at a higher elevation. Once it all goes away, it's all going to be the prettiest green you will have ever seen.

You don't think when it's foggy it will mess the vent up, do you? I guess not, since it works one way.

basscaptain · Feb 13, 2020

your just trying to move air in there ... when the air you have is 100% soaked there's Really NOT a lot you can do.......

you don't have the $$$ to run a closed room so just deal with it the only way you can...... the whole idea is to get air in and out of that tent as fast as you can at this point.......

basscaptain · Feb 13, 2020

I use a pice of fliter for a heater return vent.... but you can use anything dark that air can move though and you can make work......

I know $$$ is tight.....................

basscaptain · Feb 13, 2020

Anything you can come up with....

dire wolf · Feb 13, 2020

I had one last thought I wanted to get out to you , I've been growing a long time , 30 years , that dosent mean I know more or that I'm a better grower than someone whose been doing it for two years
First 10 years , basically no information
Next 10 years , books and then community then Internet and a tidal wave of information and product....
All the old school growers went thru the same thing

First just plant some seed in dirt and sunshine , usually ending in failure for many reasons

Then landing seeds indoors under T 12 flourish , then t 8 and T 5 flourous
Then the breakthrough High intensity discharge lights hps and mh

Game changer , then nutes , usual all general hydroponics , foxrfarm
Sensi , and advanced nutrients,
There weren't really ppm and ph practices as active as they seem to be now

My point is that I've been reading a lot of questions from newbies like , what is this curl , what is this spot , why are my leaves brown ? Etc
And invariable the response is " what your ppm ?
What's your run off ppm ?
What's your in ph what's out ph?

It seems to me that it's getting a little geek Like add cal /mag
Fix ph , up ppm.....
Yea I get it , but at some point you are going to get away from digital meters and develope a sense of love and interaction for the plant , just look at your plant , breathe near your plant , see what she is telling you , not what a geek number is telling you
These plants all have different needs its up to you to discover t

basscaptain · Feb 13, 2020

dire wolf said:
I had one last thought I wanted to get out to you , I've been growing a long time , 30 years , that dosent mean I know more or that I'm a better grower than someone whose been doing it for two years
First 10 years , basically no information
Next 10 years , books and then community then Internet and a tidal wave of information and product....
All the old school growers went thru the same thing

First just plant some seed in dirt and sunshine , usually ending in failure for many reasons

Then landing seeds indoors under T 12 flourish , then t 8 and T 5 flourous
Then the breakthrough High intensity discharge lights hps and mh

Game changer , then nutes , usual all general hydroponics , foxrfarm
Sensi , and advanced nutrients,
There weren't really ppm and ph practices as active as they seem to be now

My point is that I've been reading a lot of questions from newbies like , what is this curl , what is this spot , why are my leaves brown ? Etc
And invariable the response is " what your ppm ?
What's your run off ppm ?
What's your in ph what's out ph?

It seems to me that it's getting a little geek Like add cal /mag
Fix ph , up ppm.....
Yea I get it , but at some point you are going to get away from digital meters and develope a sense of love and interaction for the plant , just look at your plant , breathe near your plant , see what she is telling you , not what a geek number is telling you
These plants all have different needs its up to you to discover t

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you Hit the Nail on the Head...............................................................

at the end of the day you should be able to walk up and say my plants need this.... and grow............

Everyone Grows diff Just Like Every plant is Difff...
there is no Real Guide Lines but Life......................................................................

Beachwalker · Feb 13, 2020

@khalt03 I went through pictures up until where you thought you started seeing mites on page 26, and I see no evidence of mites. Maybe you'd like to put some pictures up with what you think are indicative of mites or mite damage before you start buying products and treating?

bigdaddyg8 · Feb 13, 2020

THCMonster said:
They are looking sooo much better! Really nice green,

400ppm going in to 250ppm coming out seems odd, its very unusual for the ppms to be that low! You must have a really heavy feeder!

Are you watering through to where it comes out the bottom of your pot every watering?

But you need to shoot for 6.0-6.2 going in and stick with that, 6.4 is a little high... Its fine for one feeding but dont make a habit of it!

Are you watering everyday? Or at least keeping the coco completely moist?

6.4 going and 7.2 coming out is really high, not to mention really far between what you are feeding in!

I would feed them more then 400ppm, its only my opinion but when my plants get as big as yours are in your pics im feeding anywhere from 700-800ppm everyday!

But when i feed my plants (which are in coco as well, and i also use CANNA nutrients in the commerical grow)

The feed goes in at 700-800ppm and the run off comes out anywhere between 1000-1100ppm... My run off PH never varies away from 5.8-6.2

If its high then just water with lower ph, cause the coco will buffer it.

So if your run off is coming out 7.2 you need to do a good couple feedings at 5.8 to balance that out.

Dont forget the extra calmag, you still have neon green tiger striping in the leaves, but they went from yellow green to neon green which is a great sign!

Just keep it up! Doing good!

i use cal mag between 1-2 ml a gallon (tap water 180 ppm). i use epsom salt to boost the magnesium @ 1 gram per gallon. looks like a magnesium deficiency to me . i have found that leds seem to call for more magnesium .
everything looks great!!

KLight03 · Feb 13, 2020

I agree with all of you. It's the way I taught new EMTs, because it was the way I was taught. We have all this newfangled equipment on the trucks that isn't going to make a damn if you can't look at them and tell what's wrong with them by looking at them. Sometimes they wanted to go immediately all in with all the drugs and equipment, won't make a difference if you can't tell me what the major problem is and then walk/talk it through. They were usually disappointed because all that was needed was o2. Anyway, long story short, I agree with y'all. It's the only way to learn, for me.

@dire wolf Thank you for the run down. You don't even know that you have educated me. I got to use my knowledge with someone outside of this forum. He didn't appreciate it very much, being a woman, and all, but nevertheless. Dude has a hemp cross with Sour Diesel. His plant looked like it was starving, I saw the red on the branches, asked him if it was a diesel cross, he told me it was "Wild Bourbon, something you would know nothing about." I had to walk away saying, "Well, they sure look hungry." Petty? Yes. Fulfilling? Yes. Haha! Also, I will check for light in a bit when they wake up.

@Beachwalker, no evidence prior. It just appeared. However, I did take everyone out and decon. As mentioned to @dire wolf, and @basscaptain, I thought it was just the high as hell humidity (it's the flooding season here; foggy like pea soup), plus I had humidifiers going (didn't realize the weather prior). They were unhappy originally because it went from 60 F to snowing within a day. I had the vent open to outside and the cold air was making them unhappy, so I turned the heat on. The gist of it is, no evidence prior, I noticed it while trying to fix the above.

@bigdaddyg8, mag deficiency has been something I've been wondering about, to be honest. No idea why, it just sits in my intuition. I will get some epsom salts. Thank you for the tip!

@basscaptain, thank you for your help and support. :)

Beachwalker · Feb 13, 2020

I guess my point is I'm not seeing any Visual Evidence of mites and I'm curious what you saw that makes you think that you in fact have mites?

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