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KNF Ferments In Hydro?

rototito Mar 30, 2020 10 Replies 4,146 Views
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Sorry if this has been asked before.

I've been interested in KNF farming for a while now, and was wondering if it could be used in Hydro? Especially aeroponics?

Such things like FAA and FFJ specifically, but others as well.

I figure that such things risk infections and what not, unless you sterilize the FAA, etc, but that might reduce the nutrient content, idk.

Any experiences or thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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Anybody?
 
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I've heard you shouldn't use organics in hydroponics as they attract pests and bugs ...
 
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That's what I figured. Sterilization could work for bacteria, mold, etc, but it'd still attract bugs unless on has a perfectly clean room, which is extremely unlikely.

It'd be nice to do though, hydro speed of growth with real organic nutrients.
 
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I know advanced nutrients has an organic hydro line but I’ve never used it. They claim it works real well if you know What your doing but I’m skeptic. Anyone ever use it start to finish ? Did algae and such grow/clog up your lines. ? Was it stinky ?
 
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what do all those 3 letter mean?
 
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KNF=korean natural farming

FFJ=fermented fruit juice

FAA=Fish Amino Acids? Not sure, but it's fermented fish.
 
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some info
https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SA-7.pdf

Natural Farming 101: How To Get Started With KNF - Sprouting Fam

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How to Grow Marijuana Sustainably With Korean Natural Farming

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check out this thread , missed this stickied thread in nutes

Korean Natural Farming (knf) Master Cho

So hopefully there is not a thread already going but I wanted to start something for people to share info on "Natural Farming" practices, recipes, and general "know how" so more people can see how easy (and I think fun) it is to give back to mother earth while at the same time saving money and...
www.thcfarmer.com
 
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organic hydro is hard to understand at first because hydro is all sterile. If you have some experience in beer or wine making, you know a lot more about proper organic hydro than you know. In order to keep root rot away you need to quickly colonize with beneficial bacteria before bad bacteria can form. That how beer and wine turn into clean alcohol before it goes putrid. You pitch yeast “microbes” and give them the proper environment to thrive and they fight off bad bacteria for you.

In KNF there is a recipe for lacto bacillus serum that can do the trick. I would use an amino acid product that includes magnesium or fish amino acids “brown sugar fermented fish” from KNF as your nitrogen. The FAA takes 6-12 months to ferment so I would say a product like BioAg Nitro-Mino would work great. Liquid calcium which can use raw rice vinegar or organic apple cider vinegar to dissolve egg shells, Lacto syrum, and FFJ.

Amino 1g per gallon powder or 1ml per gallon liquid.
Liquid calcium 2ml per gallon
Lacto serum stabilized with brown sugar 1ml per gallon
FFJ 4ml per gallon
PH up or down as appropriate

You can foliar feed in Veg and the first 3 weeks of flower fermented sea water made with your lacto serum as well.

Keep the ratio the same but can increase or decrease the “gallons” you add for to get your ppm where you want it. 350-500 in Veg and through stretch. 500-600 through flower. So if I have a 30 gallon reservoir of water, I may target a ppm of 450 with my tap water and only use those ratio to 20 gallons but during flower I use the ratio at 35 gallons and hit a ppm of about 575.

Example:
20 gallons worth diluted into my 30 gal res.

20g amino
40ml liquid calcium
20ml lacto
80ml FFJ
PH up or down as appropriate to get PH between 5.8-6.2
 
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RedbudAquaponics said:
organic hydro is hard to understand at first because hydro is all sterile. If you have some experience in beer or wine making, you know a lot more about proper organic hydro than you know. In order to keep root rot away you need to quickly colonize with beneficial bacteria before bad bacteria can form. That how beer and wine turn into clean alcohol before it goes putrid. You pitch yeast “microbes” and give them the proper environment to thrive and they fight off bad bacteria for you.

In KNF there is a recipe for lacto bacillus serum that can do the trick. I would use an amino acid product that includes magnesium or fish amino acids “brown sugar fermented fish” from KNF as your nitrogen. The FAA takes 6-12 months to ferment so I would say a product like BioAg Nitro-Mino would work great. Liquid calcium which can use raw rice vinegar or organic apple cider vinegar to dissolve egg shells, Lacto syrum, and FFJ.

Amino 1g per gallon powder or 1ml per gallon liquid.
Liquid calcium 2ml per gallon
Lacto serum stabilized with brown sugar 1ml per gallon
FFJ 4ml per gallon
PH up or down as appropriate

You can foliar feed in Veg and the first 3 weeks of flower fermented sea water made with your lacto serum as well.

Keep the ratio the same but can increase or decrease the “gallons” you add for to get your ppm where you want it. 350-500 in Veg and through stretch. 500-600 through flower. So if I have a 30 gallon reservoir of water, I may target a ppm of 450 with my tap water and only use those ratio to 20 gallons but during flower I use the ratio at 35 gallons and hit a ppm of about 575.

Example:
20 gallons worth diluted into my 30 gal res.

20g amino
40ml liquid calcium
20ml lacto
80ml FFJ
PH up or down as appropriate to get PH between 5.8-6.2
Click to expand...
Do you think you could use it in a coco grow.knf ?
 
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