Late Start 5 vs 25 gallon fabric pots

[MJmadscientist]

Outdoor growers who have started NOW in June. Realistically how big can a photo or fast photos get in the weeks we have before flower starts?
Is it worth me using 25 gallon fabric pots or stick to my 5 gallon bag?
I’ve never started this late so have no idea what to expect and how much yield I can still accomplish?

Running some regular photos which I’m more familiar with. I ordered some fast flower photoperiods to see if this will help beat the fungus that always shows up the last 2-3 weeks of flower here.
Will fast flower varieties be smaller stature or yield less? If it matters the fast photos came from fastbuds for idea of strain/breeder.


I top sometimes multiple times and lst. Would you still top this late or just go lst only?
Ideally I’d like to get 3-4 oz’s per plant but the late start has me stressed out.

 

[dankstranger]

june start aint the end of the world but you gotta quit thinkin like its april

photos started now can still make decent bushes if they get full sun and roots fast but they aint gonna fill a 25 like an early spring plant unless you already got strong starts or clones with some legs on em. depends on your latitude too but most outdoor girls around here start thinkin flower late july into august give or take strain and daylight. so you got a short veg window not no whole season

5 gal will work but outdoors they dry fast and cook roots if the heat comes on. you can pull 3-4 oz out of a 5 if the plant is happy and gets sun all day but youll be married to the water can. miss a hot afternoon and she’ll let you know

25 gal is nice dirt volume but for a late start it may be more soil than the plant can really use. not bad if you already got the soil and plan to reuse it but i wouldnt expect every late june plant to turn into a monster just cuz the bag is big

personally id split the difference if you got the option. 10 or 15 gal fabric is the sweet spot for a late start. enough root room to keep em steady but not so much wasted dirt. if all you got is 5 and 25 id use 25 for the strongest fastest plants and 5s for the smaller ones. dont give a weak runt a mansion and expect it to become medicine

fast photos are still photos. they dont flower just because the package says fast like an auto does. usually they just finish quicker once they do trigger. some stay smaller some dont depends on the line. these modern seed catalog names and fast claims are all over the map. old Afghan and early skunk lines already did that job before everybody started puttin racing stripes on seed packs

for topping this late id go easy. if the plant is already healthy and pushing hard you can top once early and let her recover but i wouldnt be topping multiple times now. every cut costs days and you dont have many spare days. id rather bend em open, tie the branches out, let the sun hit the lowers and keep the plant moving. lst over surgery this late

biggest thing for your fungus problem is not just “fast” genetics. its structure and air. dont make little damp christmas trees packed tight. open em up. keep bottoms cleaned, dont let leaves sit on soil, give em morning sun if possible so dew burns off quick. mulch the pots but keep the stem dry. wet crowded plants in september are mold bait no matter what breeder sold em

if you want 3-4 oz a plant from a june start id say

full sun
10-15 gal if possible
one transplant and no stalling
light bending not repeated topping
good living soil not bottled perfume every other day
keep the plant open for air
select the ones that actually want to grow

real medicine comes from plants that finish clean in your weather. id run those fast ones and watch hard. keep notes on who roots fast who flowers early who resists rot and who actually has effect beyond just shiny THC numbers. thats how you find keepers. the mountain dont care what the pack says.

 

[MJmadscientist]

june start aint the end of the world but you gotta quit thinkin like its april

photos started now can still make decent bushes if they get full sun and roots fast but they aint gonna fill a 25 like an early spring plant unless you already got strong starts or clones with some legs on em. depends on your latitude too but most outdoor girls around here start thinkin flower late july into august give or take strain and daylight. so you got a short veg window not no whole season

5 gal will work but outdoors they dry fast and cook roots if the heat comes on. you can pull 3-4 oz out of a 5 if the plant is happy and gets sun all day but youll be married to the water can. miss a hot afternoon and she’ll let you know

25 gal is nice dirt volume but for a late start it may be more soil than the plant can really use. not bad if you already got the soil and plan to reuse it but i wouldnt expect every late june plant to turn into a monster just cuz the bag is big

personally id split the difference if you got the option. 10 or 15 gal fabric is the sweet spot for a late start. enough root room to keep em steady but not so much wasted dirt. if all you got is 5 and 25 id use 25 for the strongest fastest plants and 5s for the smaller ones. dont give a weak runt a mansion and expect it to become medicine

fast photos are still photos. they dont flower just because the package says fast like an auto does. usually they just finish quicker once they do trigger. some stay smaller some dont depends on the line. these modern seed catalog names and fast claims are all over the map. old Afghan and early skunk lines already did that job before everybody started puttin racing stripes on seed packs

for topping this late id go easy. if the plant is already healthy and pushing hard you can top once early and let her recover but i wouldnt be topping multiple times now. every cut costs days and you dont have many spare days. id rather bend em open, tie the branches out, let the sun hit the lowers and keep the plant moving. lst over surgery this late

biggest thing for your fungus problem is not just “fast” genetics. its structure and air. dont make little damp christmas trees packed tight. open em up. keep bottoms cleaned, dont let leaves sit on soil, give em morning sun if possible so dew burns off quick. mulch the pots but keep the stem dry. wet crowded plants in september are mold bait no matter what breeder sold em

if you want 3-4 oz a plant from a june start id say

full sun
10-15 gal if possible
one transplant and no stalling
light bending not repeated topping
good living soil not bottled perfume every other day
keep the plant open for air
select the ones that actually want to grow

real medicine comes from plants that finish clean in your weather. id run those fast ones and watch hard. keep notes on who roots fast who flowers early who resists rot and who actually has effect beyond just shiny THC numbers. thats how you find keepers. the mountain dont care what the pack says.

I just have 5’s and 25’s. Water was a bitch in 5’s outside because of coco and some peat in the mix. Gets too dry and becomes hydrophobic. So this season I did add hydro-gel. I may regret that but summer is hot and dry here.
Potting mix I run is a 50/50 peat and coco base added as follows - 1/3 coco peat mix, 1/3 of my horse manure compost, and 1/3 perlite. Gave me some missile silos in 5 gallons last year.
Also run mega crop 2 part, ion-14, & sea-k for nutes. Flower gets some sweet candy and 0-50-32 added