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Can we not refer to it as hype? Some people can justify spending more to have the same technology put together and tested for them.Honestly saying led technology ie the latest and greatest is totally wrong the strips and cobs im using are not for horticulture they themselves are repurposed by us for growing there is no hype or magic with them they put out the color spectrum you order at the wattage you run them at data sheets are easily accesed so please dont lop us diy guys in with the high dollar big money "hype" crowd,, not taking away from your work its fine for your purposes but for a larger canopy say 4x4 cobs and strips will rule
I did and you called it hype that is what I'm responding to asking can we not refer to this as hype. It's all legitimate it all grows plants... The difference is only the quality of components, efficiency and spectrums which I agree is a lot but the only real hype is the marketing.Did you read what wrote sir, lol samsung and bridgelux doing retrofit panels has nothing to do with the grow industey we brought that stuff into the grow rooms
Honestly saying led technology ie the latest and greatest is totally wrong the strips and cobs im using are not for horticulture they themselves are repurposed by us for growing there is no hype or magic with them they put out the color spectrum you order at the wattage you run them at data sheets are easily accesed so please dont lop us diy guys in with the high dollar big money "hype" crowd,, not taking away from your work its fine for your purposes but for a larger canopy say 4x4 cobs and strips will rule
the only down side is the # of strips one must use ? lets say a 3 foot long and 2 foot wide ?
the space is 3 by 2.5 - 8 foot in height right now in the space running 2 - 300 watt led's -I'd like to hear that answer. (The height might influence that. How tall is the grow space?).
You have 6 sq ft. That should require about 120w (at 20w/sq ft, I assume). But, the strips are in 80w units. Maybe if you had 3 and ran them at 50% watts? (That would be immensely less expensive than the $800 you're thinking about spending).
If it were me, I'd want to spread those watts around the plants better. More angles, coverage, closer. If you bought 6 and ran then at 25% you could do that. Still under your $800 target. (Not sure those are meant to be used that way. Just thinking out loud. You could also use two at 50% on top, and then use four household LED lightbulbs, one in each corner, for the remaining 40 watts.).
Why are you looking to buy LED instead of CMH (35w/sq ft) or T5HO (40w/sq ft)? Is the price of electricity high? Or, do you live in a hot climate? Those other sources of light are simpler to get your head around. The CMH would fit a 3x3' space perfectly. If the space were 4-5' tall, T5HO would work well. The plants would get UV from these lamps. (As far as I know, LED doesn't produce UV.).
Not trying to deter you. Just wondering if you've thought about why you've chosen LED?
the space is 3 by 2.5 - 8 foot in height right now in the space running 2 - 300 watt led's -
Fluence bioengineering ,chilled logic,timber,hlg. There are actually some moreName of some good LED's ?? other than kind, ect
+1Fluence bioengineering ,chilled logic,timber,hlg. There are actually some more
probably. fine for vegging seedling/clones, but you'll want more power for flower. hey that rhymed!These are LED tubes not florescent bulbs, is that still the same?
like HPS and cfl's - just wanted to run led's - there was a marked increase with yields, terpene;s, ect - and cheap run-ing
Yeah man I have stoped commenting on led posts with the amount of stupid circle conversationCan we not refer to it as hype? Some people can justify spending more to have the same technology put together and tested for them.
Nothing hype about it. Facts are facts and yes you can do it diy cheaper than some of quality manufacturers but that doesn't make it hype.
Don't forget these hype manufacturers are the ones that spent money on R&D that led (no pun intended) to the development of the parts your able to buy and other companies knock off and sell cheaper.
Guess what happens when a company losses all its profits to that? No more R&D and no more advances.
I'm no different I save a buck when I can but at least I'm honest with myself about it.
Rant over
FFS why do I even bother reading led posts anymore lol.
I dont agreewith your claim. You are correct that most ebay and other sites dont even come close to the published claims. I have been itching to move away from HID systems for years now. However I haven't puled the trigger yet. Reason for that is, the push for and claims about leds potential arent realised in most products until you get in the arena of professional commercial applications. My partner is pulling damn near HID yeilds with led and the colors are much more diverse and the terps are so different with the same cuts and strains. Now I will say to get into that arena yes it takes a bite out of your wallet. The old adage you get what you pay for even holds true to leds and cannabis.First off, LED's are okay, they are nothing near what is claimed on most web sites. I bought Meizhi's and they lasted about a year and a half a piece, actually one still works and produces white lights and lacks intensity. My honest opinion,(based on three years of LED's only), would be to look at your planned grow style. Fluro's are nice, they do not really get canopy penetration, LEDs are great if you can get past price and the fact they are not as long lasting as claimed, Then there HID's, I like them personally, I still won't suggest them only because of heat. Heat is not an issue here in the northern US. I would suggest that before you jump on the LED bandwagon you consider a few factors, canopy penetration, nutrient consumption, and of course light quality. Most US made LED lamps are awesome, yet, price kills the chance of me ever buying from them. Even with my bias towards LEDs, I don't rule them out, I just would wait until the tech is better as well as the regulations on the claims of said lights.
Well read my latest post and then lets chat. Some folks know what they are talking about round here.Yeah man I have stoped commenting on led posts with the amount of stupid circle conversation
Amen you can't increase one variable without accounting for all the others. Your grow is only as strong as your weakest link.I dont agreewith your claim. You are correct that most ebay and other sites dont even come close to the published claims. I have been itching to move away from HID systems for years now. However I haven't puled the trigger yet. Reason for that is, the push for and claims about leds potential arent realised in most products until you get in the arena of professional commercial applications. My partner is pulling damn near HID yeilds with led and the colors are much more diverse and the terps are so different with the same cuts and strains. Now I will say to get into that arena yes it takes a bite out of your wallet. The old adage you get what you pay for even holds true to leds and cannabis.
Here is the system homie uses and I must say its impressive. Lighting is all about satisfying the DLI of any crop you grow, cannabis included. /even urban myths cannot change that fact. Peace out
SPYDRx Plus Vertical Farming Grow Light | Fluence
The SPYDRx Plus is Fluence's more powerful version of the SPYDRx close proximity grow light. Visit to buy direct from Fluence.fluence.science
heres the newer better model https://fluence.science/store/spydr-series/spydr-2i/
And with higer ppfd and par you will need to step your game up on your enviros to get the max usage out of these systems
About PAR, PPF, And PPFD
If you're shopping for horticulture grow lights, you may have seen the terms watts, lumens, LUX, foot candles, PAR, PPF, PPFD, and photon efficiency.fluence.science
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