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Led Lights And Unfinished Buds?

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Not cob's, but 270 wall watts in a 3x4 area.
 
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View attachment 850809 Not cob's, but 270 wall watts in a 3x4 area.
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Very nice. How long did you veg?
 
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You'll need more for a warehouse. Lol
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yeah obviously, you'd need about 650w to replace a 100w hps with that led configuration but it will be a perfect test run cause I am still new to growing with led's. I need a few runs to dial it in and then I can scale it up to the warehouse setting.
 
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yeah obviously, you'd need about 650w to replace a 100w hps with that led configuration but it will be a perfect test run cause I am still new to growing with led's. I need a few runs to dial it in and then I can scale it up to the warehouse setting.
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That many leds will cost a small fortune. Yes there ia a learning curve doesn't matter cobs, strips or quantum boards. Oh and it's a 1000w hps.
 
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Very nice. How long did you veg?
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veg is 21-25 days
 
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just a 2x2, what it says it will cover but I am assuming that is the problem and I just need to lollipop more instead of just deleafing. These are some of the top nugs that are almost done drying and they turned out better than I thought View attachment 848949 View attachment 848950 View attachment 848951
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I had the same problem with plant everything worked out in the end when they finished curing.
 

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I had the same problem with plant everything worked out in the end when they finished curing.
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nice work! Yeah I firmly believe the unfinished buds I had was because I did not lollipop too much and the lowers simply didn't have enough light. I have finished trimming and most of the buds finished really nicely
 
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Awesome it was actually my first plant I have ever grown. So now I’m trying new stuff. Is this a good start for my set up? Mars 300 for 2 plants. My new plant is 7 days old.
 

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Awesome it was actually my first plant I have ever grown. So now I’m trying new stuff. Is this a good start for my set up? Mars 300 for 2 plants. My new plant is 7 days old.
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I'm assuming that's soil and not coco right? I do not have a lot of experience with soil at all but it looks pretty good. I would suggest a little less p and more K if you can, I have heard of people getting great results growing with a 3-1-4 NPK ratio. The only thing I grow with soil is veggies but I always add fish emulsion, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, bat guano, and some beneficial microbes to give the soil that extra jump start
 
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What training did you do? LED lights dont have as good light penetration compared to traditional lights. That means making sure your canopy is not to thick is even more important.
 
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upgrade my circut breaker
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Interested on what your planning with this statement? Wasn’t aware that a circuit could be upgraded without changing out the real limitation, which is the current carrying capacity of the conductor.
 
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What training did you do? LED lights dont have as good light penetration compared to traditional lights. That means making sure your canopy is not to thick is even more important.
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FIM or Top and the. Tie down branches. I do it around week 3 or veg and then again around week 5 and let them heal from the shock and throw those girls into flower or “the switch” 12on 12off. Look at some of my post and you will see what I’m talking about . Hope this helps
 
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What training did you do? LED lights dont have as good light penetration compared to traditional lights. That means making sure your canopy is not to thick is even more important.
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I have to disagree with led lights not having good penetration. I think it depends on the quality of leds you are using. I am using 4 288 qb boards running at 400-450 watts in a 4x4 to replace my 600 gavita hps and my lower flowers are are more compact and developed than the hps.
 
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I'll be in trim jail most of the week, Another bites the dust this week.
 
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I have to disagree with led lights not having good penetration. I think it depends on the quality of leds you are using. I am using 4 288 qb boards running at 400-450 watts in a 4x4 to replace my 600 gavita hps and my lower flowers are are more compact and developed than the hps.
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Your talking about bud structure. I'm talking about how far the light makes it through the canopy. I run LEDs myself because of the better spectrum but I would be money a thicker canopy would yeild more under HPS. LEDs have better light spectrum but the light does not make it as far though the canopy.
 
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Your talking about bud structure. I'm talking about how far the light makes it through the canopy. I run LEDs myself because of the better spectrum but I would be money a thicker canopy would yeild more under HPS. LEDs have better light spectrum but the light does not make it as far though the canopy.
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Not always the case, Multiple light points has the ability to hit more of the surface area of the leaf with direct light compared to a single point HID.
 
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Not always the case, Multiple light points has the ability to hit more of the surface area of the leaf with direct light compared to a single point HID.
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Those plants look great. I wouldnt call that a dense canopy though. You took enough off the bottom and the plants have some elbow room. I'm thinking more a think canopy that you can barely see the floor.
 
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Those plants look great. I wouldnt call that a dense canopy though. You took enough off the bottom and the plants have some elbow room. I'm thinking more a think canopy that you can barely see the floor.
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Not much light under these canopy's.
 
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Not much light under these canopy's.
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That's my point. I bet if you had a HPS there you would see more light under the canopy. This either calls for a side by side or agree to disagree. Yes having multiple light points will give you more even coverage but it wont penetrate through the canopy as much. I havent done a side by side so I cant say for sure.
 
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That's my point. I bet if you had a HPS there you would see more light under the canopy. This either calls for a side by side or agree to disagree. Yes having multiple light points will give you more even coverage but it wont penetrate through the canopy as much. I havent done a side by side so I cant say for sure.
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You mean like these.

Still not much light hitting the floor.
 
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