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I cant speak as to where the raw materials came from but i can say my dehumidifier and ac r made in usa
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Naw bro, only thing made in the usa is "Fake News" just ask Donald!!!!
 
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Im having a tuff time imagining how pathogens wud be in the condensate tho....?
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We're discussing condensate trays from mechanical equipment like heat pumps, fan coil units and air handlers with AC coils.

These pieces of equipment have condensate trays which are then drained through a small pipe, usually clear, but not always, with a trap in it, to a drain.

These condensate trays have some standing water in them when the AC is functioning. Should these condensate trays be treated with an algaecide of some sort?

There are risks beyond mold and algae, in particular Legionella bacteria (legionnaire's disease) which can have an alarmingly high mortality rate, and also potential hazard sources such as biofilms that can include other bacterial and maybe other pathogens.

However the risk of formation of problem levels of mold, bacteria, or other pathogen is probably not the same across all buildings nor types of equipment, and much of the risk may depend on installation and maintenance details at individual installations.

Particularly in climates with a high humidity and a heavy cooling load, and depending on details of the design and installation of the air handler unit and duct work, there is risk of blowing pathogen-contaminated water droplets downstream inside the air conditioning duct work and thus exposing building occupants.

With rooftop-mounted cooling units such as cooling towers using water, conditions may be still more attractive for growth of pathogens and there is some risk of movement of pathogens out of the cooling equipment to people located nearby and downwind from the equipment, even if they are outside the building which the equipment actually serves.

While I am not expert on this topic I have collected and provide here some key information and opinions to help sort out these questions.

Use the links listed at the "More Reading" links at the bottom of this article to read additional details on this topic including recommended cleaning procedures and details of the Legionella hazard in air conditioning systems, humidifiers, etc.
 
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Sitting water =pathogens :D
 
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jumpincactus said:
We're discussing condensate trays from mechanical equipment like heat pumps, fan coil units and air handlers with AC coils.

These pieces of equipment have condensate trays which are then drained through a small pipe, usually clear, but not always, with a trap in it, to a drain.

These condensate trays have some standing water in them when the AC is functioning. Should these condensate trays be treated with an algaecide of some sort?

There are risks beyond mold and algae, in particular Legionella bacteria (legionnaire's disease) which can have an alarmingly high mortality rate, and also potential hazard sources such as biofilms that can include other bacterial and maybe other pathogens.

However the risk of formation of problem levels of mold, bacteria, or other pathogen is probably not the same across all buildings nor types of equipment, and much of the risk may depend on installation and maintenance details at individual installations.

Particularly in climates with a high humidity and a heavy cooling load, and depending on details of the design and installation of the air handler unit and duct work, there is risk of blowing pathogen-contaminated water droplets downstream inside the air conditioning duct work and thus exposing building occupants.

With rooftop-mounted cooling units such as cooling towers using water, conditions may be still more attractive for growth of pathogens and there is some risk of movement of pathogens out of the cooling equipment to people located nearby and downwind from the equipment, even if they are outside the building which the equipment actually serves.

While I am not expert on this topic I have collected and provide here some key information and opinions to help sort out these questions.

Use the links listed at the "More Reading" links at the bottom of this article to read additional details on this topic including recommended cleaning procedures and details of the Legionella hazard in air conditioning systems, humidifiers, etc.
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Uvc
 
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Naw bro, only thing made in the usa is "Fake News" just ask Donald!!!!
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Sounds like ur talkin politics...?
 
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jumpincactus said:
We're discussing condensate trays from mechanical equipment like heat pumps, fan coil units and air handlers with AC coils.

These pieces of equipment have condensate trays which are then drained through a small pipe, usually clear, but not always, with a trap in it, to a drain.

These condensate trays have some standing water in them when the AC is functioning. Should these condensate trays be treated with an algaecide of some sort?

There are risks beyond mold and algae, in particular Legionella bacteria (legionnaire's disease) which can have an alarmingly high mortality rate, and also potential hazard sources such as biofilms that can include other bacterial and maybe other pathogens.

However the risk of formation of problem levels of mold, bacteria, or other pathogen is probably not the same across all buildings nor types of equipment, and much of the risk may depend on installation and maintenance details at individual installations.

Particularly in climates with a high humidity and a heavy cooling load, and depending on details of the design and installation of the air handler unit and duct work, there is risk of blowing pathogen-contaminated water droplets downstream inside the air conditioning duct work and thus exposing building occupants.

With rooftop-mounted cooling units such as cooling towers using water, conditions may be still more attractive for growth of pathogens and there is some risk of movement of pathogens out of the cooling equipment to people located nearby and downwind from the equipment, even if they are outside the building which the equipment actually serves.

While I am not expert on this topic I have collected and provide here some key information and opinions to help sort out these questions.

Use the links listed at the "More Reading" links at the bottom of this article to read additional details on this topic including recommended cleaning procedures and details of the Legionella hazard in air conditioning systems, humidifiers, etc.
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That’s why you DO NOT DRINK CONDENSATE WATER!!
 
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Still think if its kept clean and used every day not standing for days on end the likelyhood of any issues are very small. But yeah UVC and small pump eliminates all doubt
 
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That’s why you DO NOT DRINK CONDENSATE WATER!!
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Took the words outta my mouth!
 
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That’s why you DO NOT DRINK CONDENSATE WATER!!
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Do u remember when i was arguing with that kendogsmokes dude about condensate a cpl yrs ago and he ses...i wudnt drink it so im not giving it to my plants...and i sed i dont drink compost tea but ill use it on my plants haha

I seem to remember u being right in the thick of it for that debate....?
 
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I remember, and fortunately I have learned from the errors of my ways, thanks to you gnome. And the hvac techs at work that I have taken the time to discuss the ins and outs of hvac equipment and condensate water.
 
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I don't drink condensate because it has no value for me, against my tap. And it can carry the same bacteria thats floating around anyways.
 
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I remember, and fortunately I have learned from the errors of my ways, thanks to you gnome. And the hvac techs at work that I have taken the time to discuss the ins and outs of hvac equipment and condensate water.
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So ur saying....gnome, ur the best...?


Pretty good memory huh? So much for that theory that pot fucks ur memory up...

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/a-c-runnoff-water-ok-for-dwc.83085/page-3#post-1741508

Found it!
 
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I don't drink condensate because it has no value for me, against my tap. And it can carry the same bacteria thats floating around anyways.
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This guy loves weed leaves watered w condensate
 
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Wait now I'm curious.. great thread for info but why was it started if the answer was already known?
 
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Wait now I'm curious.. great thread for info but why was it started if the answer was already known?
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Well aqua man thats simple...cuz i like to argue
 
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Well aqua man thats simple...cuz i like to argue
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I can appreciate that.
 
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Wait now I'm curious.. great thread for info but why was it started if the answer was already known?
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U dont haveta have a question to start a thread. I was curious what ither ppl are thinking and doing. I think the first post ses it all
 
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So ur saying....gnome, ur the best...?


Pretty good memory huh? So much for that theory that pot fucks ur memory up...

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/a-c-runnoff-water-ok-for-dwc.83085/page-3#post-1741508

Found it!
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No, I’m not saying it, how the fuck you find that old rag, amazing. Not you your memory.
 
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Well aqua man thats simple...cuz i like to argue
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Yes, he does. And he’s good at it. Not you your arguing.
 
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Well I read this whole thread, and it wasn't until the end that I saw what I wanted to say when I first saw the thread. Yes, water away with it, just Don't Drink It! LOL
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