Lowering PH

oldskol4evr · Aug 13, 2019

Aqua Man said:
No worries bro. Lol you better get it done before she airsoft's your ass again.

thats what im talking about,had her ass plasta gauging that shit to small for my hands hahahah,short blocked and waiting on head,get outside tomorrow and bolt tranny to it,the thing had 200 thousand miles and me bitching at my kids about maintaence paid off,i ball honed the bitch,mic everything and put the bitch together ,no machine work ,cleaned and reusing,you cant even tell the damn thing has any miles,i mean i bore gauged it double check feeler gauging,plasti gauge ,first time in 50 yrs came across something new,after all that checking,cleaning and went and torqued main plate after plasti gauage,took back off to check oil clearance,damn brand new out of boxx set of main bearings,1 1/2 thosand one side of main bearing had a pit in it,if i would have just mic it and crank it up it would have wasted crank,brand new shit ,had anthor set right on hand and changed all the bitchs hahahahh so she was helping me and now she go at bitching again hahaaah

Aqua Man · Aug 13, 2019

Fangthane said:
For large pH adjustments, I use Bloom City pH Down, which is also phosphoric acid. When I'm close and just want to make small moves, I use 100% lemon juice for fine tuning. I'm a soil guy, though.

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Yup that or dilute your acid with distilled water at 1/4 strength. Always add acid to water never water to acid.

Aqua Man · Aug 13, 2019

oldskol4evr said:
thats what im talking about,had her ass plasta gauging that shit to small for my hands hahahah,short blocked and waiting on head,get outside tomorrow and bolt tranny to it,the thing had 200 thousand miles and me bitching at my kids about maintaence paid off,i ball honed the bitch,mic everything and put the bitch together ,no machine work ,cleaned and reusing,you cant even tell the damn thing has any miles,i mean i bore gauged it double check feeler gauging,plasti gauge ,first time in 50 yrs came across something new,after all that checking,cleaning and went and torqued main plate after plasti gauage,took back off to check oil clearance,damn brand new out of boxx set of main bearings,1 1/2 thosand one side of main bearing had a pit in it,if i would have just mic it and crank it up it would have wasted crank,brand new shit ,had anthor set right on hand and changed all the bitchs hahahahh so she was helping me and now she go at bitching again hahaaah

Lol... I'm Bustin a gut here

oldskol4evr · Aug 13, 2019

Aqua Man said:
Lol... I'm Bustin a gut here

got to work um bro,they mind as long as they dont know it hahahahah cant any part house fool this old girl,she builds engines ,last one she built is in this 83 chevy ,im building that one next,i guess i got about 7 yrs on it,lot of hauling done with the tank hahahh

oldskol4evr · Aug 13, 2019

Aqua Man said:
Lol... I'm Bustin a gut here

you should see her now,shit she pissed power steering pump cost more than the whole engine kit hahahahha,my youngest boy hit a axis buck crushed in the radiator support and since i had to replace it,decided to rebuild engine and tranny ,costly deer,boy loves the car and every mile has been put on by family members hahahh,engine and tranny has to come out from the bottom of car,with no front clip on it,just unbolt and ease out ,i told him you cant afford a new car,cant trust a used car,so build it and they will come hahahah,cheapest decent used one goes for 10 k these days,all those at carfax and places like that are just rental cars,you know how folk threat them hahahah

Aqua Man · Aug 13, 2019

oldskol4evr said:
you should see her now,shit she pissed power steering pump cost more than the whole engine kit hahahahha,my youngest boy hit a axis buck crushed in the radiator support and since i had to replace it,decided to rebuild engine and tranny ,costly deer,boy loves the car and every mile has been put on by family members hahahh,engine and tranny has to come out from the bottom of car,with no front clip on it,just unbolt and ease out ,i told him you cant afford a new car,cant trust a used car,so build it and they will come hahahah,cheapest decent used one goes for 10 k these days,all those at carfax and places like that are just rental cars,you know how folk threat them hahahah

Much respect.... I spent almost every other weekend of my 20's at the wreckers picking out parts for my $200 shit bag cars I drove lol. There are days I miss it but honestly fixing others cars seems like no hassle to this day changing a lightbulb in my own feels like rebuilding a motor. Lmao I hate working on my own shit but they the only thing I hate more is paying someone else to do it. I have new headlights sitting on my table for 2 months now cause wife wanted HID. It's a Chrysler so I have to take the bumper off to get the assembly out to change the bulbs. These things will sit here I promise until one of those fuckers burn out... Just don't tell my wife that lol.

oldskol4evr · Aug 13, 2019

Aqua Man said:
Much respect.... I spent almost every other weekend of my 20's at the wreckers picking out parts for my $200 shit bag cars I drove lol. There are days I miss it but honestly fixing others cars seems like no hassle to this day changing a lightbulb in my own feels like rebuilding a motor. Lmao I hate working on my own shit but they the only thing I hate more is paying someone else to do it. I have new headlights sitting on my table for 2 months now cause wife wanted HID. It's a Chrysler so I have to take the bumper off to get the assembly out to change the bulbs. These things will sit here I promise until one of those fuckers burn out... Just don't tell my wife that lol.

the boy wanted better lights until i showed him how much they were,151 compared to 37 for oem ,ya he went oem hahahahh thats the best thing he footing the bill lmao labor free damn good deal,car been threw wife and i and working on second boy with it, these are easy to change,bulbs and all,i finally found pressure and return hoses for tranny to radiator,that was a act of congress,lot of spot welding to do,took 20 spot welds off each side to get core support out,literally just the frame back to fire wall hanging out real good time for rebuilds of engine and tranny hahahah

oldskol4evr · Aug 14, 2019

Aqua Man said:
Much respect.... I spent almost every other weekend of my 20's at the wreckers picking out parts for my $200 shit bag cars I drove lol. There are days I miss it but honestly fixing others cars seems like no hassle to this day changing a lightbulb in my own feels like rebuilding a motor. Lmao I hate working on my own shit but they the only thing I hate more is paying someone else to do it. I have new headlights sitting on my table for 2 months now cause wife wanted HID. It's a Chrysler so I have to take the bumper off to get the assembly out to change the bulbs. These things will sit here I promise until one of those fuckers burn out... Just don't tell my wife that lol.

tell ya what bro,when it looks like shit or dont mind,know one to bitch at,bright side is when you get old you cant kick your own ass no more hahahahh i do all the work that has to be done,if i dont know how,i will hahahahah,if there was such thing as handy man these days id fit the ticket,lol

Aqua Man · Aug 14, 2019

oldskol4evr said:
tell ya what bro,when it looks like shit or dont mind,know one to bitch at,bright side is when you get old you cant kick your own ass no more hahahahh i do all the work that has to be done,if i dont know how,i will hahahahah,if there was such thing as handy man these days id fit the ticket,lol

I feel ya. I do a lot for friends and family. Mostly home stuff... Off to bed long day tomorrow

oldskol4evr · Aug 14, 2019

Aqua Man said:
I feel ya. I do a lot for friends and family. Mostly home stuff... Off to bed long day tomorrow

i dont even wont to think about tomorrow hahahah later bro

Aqua Man · Aug 15, 2019

Grayeyes said:
Don't you want to use a $100 test kit?

You are all overcomplicating it. 1 tbsp of vinegar in a gallon will reduce your ph in water. I start around 8 and finish at about 6.5.

Sure it will can you tell us by how much or how long? Good for both hydro and soil?

It's not over complicating it. It's explaining the difference and why some acids are better for certain tasks. I have tried all of them and there are differences and very noticeable ones at that.

I'm betting your in soil because your right vinager will work fine for soil. That does not make it a good option in hydro. It will work in a pinch.

Want an example of this: https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/help-ph-keeps-going-threw-the-roof.105674/page-5#post-2281685

Some people are content not understanding things and that's ok. But while you think you are giving an informed opinion... You are Infact not.

Since we were talking cars here. It's like putting straight 30 weight or canola oil in a new car and saying oil is oil. No they break down differently and have different properties.

MIMedGrower · Aug 15, 2019

Aqua Man said:
Sure it will can you tell us by how much or how long? Good for both hydro and soil?

It's not over complicating it. It's explaining the difference and why some acids are better for certain tasks. I have tried all of them and there are differences and very noticeable ones at that.

I'm betting your in soil because your right vinager will work fine for soil. That does not make it a good option in hydro. It will work in a pinch.

Want an example of this: https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/help-ph-keeps-going-threw-the-roof.105674/page-5#post-2281685

Some people are content not understanding things and that's ok. But while you think you are giving an informed opinion... You are Infact not.

Since we were talking cars here. It's like putting straight 30 weight or canola oil in a new car and saying oil is oil. No they break down differently and have different properties.

Vinegar breaks down very quickly. It may immediately acidify water or a nute solution but it wont keep acidifying it in the soil.

If it works well through the whole cycle it is likely the source water did not need acidifying and the water and soil buffer are in balance anyway.

Lemon juice is said to be a bit more stable.

I agree with all of your into aqua man. Always choose the correct tool for the job.

Aqua Man · Aug 15, 2019

MIMedGrower said:
Vinegar breaks down very quickly. It may immediately acidify water or a nute solution but it wont keep acidifying it in the soil.

If it works well through the whole cycle it is likely the source water did not need acidifying and the water and soil buffer are in balance anyway.

Lemon juice is said to be a bit more stable.

I agree with all of your into aqua man. Always choose the correct tool for the job.

Agree 100%. It's the soil makeup that's important for ph. IMO most often (not always) there is no need to ph your nutrients for soil.

Jack og · Aug 15, 2019

Keep it simple use lemons, yes lemons for that qty of water. No need to get exotic.

visajoe1 · Aug 15, 2019

GH PH down label

PipeCarver · Aug 15, 2019

visajoe1 said:
GH PH down label

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I get a rash on my hands from it, not good but sht happens.

Aqua Man · Aug 15, 2019

visajoe1 said:
GH PH down label

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That's probably why some have some issues with that brand in hydro. I buy straight 85% food grade phosphoric acid and ammonium is not good for hydro also.

Aqua Man · Aug 15, 2019

PipeCarver said:
I get a rash on my hands from it, not good but sht happens.

Yeah acid is nasty shit when in concentrated form.

PipeCarver · Aug 15, 2019

Aqua Man said:
Agree 100%. It's the soil makeup that's important for ph. IMO most often (not always) there is no need to ph your nutrients for soil.

Really? "most often (not always) there is no need to ph your nutrients for soil."
the nutrients I use drop the ph substantially like a full point in a gallon of my water to well bellow 6.00 am I wasting my time and money using ph up? and Down I thought ph problems were the root cause of 90% of beginners problems and now you say it doesn't matter in soil? Does Pro-Mix grow medium count as soil? Did I get that in the wrong context?

Aqua Man · Aug 15, 2019

PipeCarver said:
Really? "most often (not always) there is no need to ph your nutrients for soil."
the nutrients I use drop the ph substantially like a full point in a gallon of my water to well bellow 6.00 am I wasting my time and money using ph up? and Down I thought ph problems were the root cause of 90% of beginners problems and now you say it doesn't matter in soil? Does Pro-Mix grow medium count as soil? Did I get that in the wrong context?

I'm not a soil grower but yes that's what I'm saying. Unless the buffering capacity (alkalinity) (KH) (carbonates) of the water is enough to change the ph of the soil ... Which can happen over time from high carbonates the soil will adjust the ph of your nutrients. Peat moss lowers ph of soil and stuff like lime increases ph. That's why people build soils using them to balance the soil pH so the soil adjusts the oh of the water.

Also why people don't generally use the same soil more than once unless it re amended.

If you use RO I can guarantee there is no need to ph your nutes.

If you use tap with a low carbonate hardness it's very likely you don't need to ph.

Well water and very hard tap water will likely need to be ph'ed unless you build it to address this.

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