Making hash oil from hash - Help needed

[Reefermadness321]

This will be my first attempt to make hash oil out of hash (weed is not available here), so any help and tips is welcome. To create this i will need ethanol, filter, heat and hash if i understand correctly. The purpose of this is to smoke it in a electric cigarette using a specialised atomizer designed for hash oil and similar thick oils.

So, please correct me if I am wrong in the prosess of making this, but here is how I am planning to do it:
1. Dissolve the hash into etanol. This causes a small problem for me, as the highest % that is legal and available here is 60%. I understand i would need 90+ for that to work? As a alternative I think i will use aceton. What would be recommended here? There is lots of other substances that does contain 95% alcohol, like handwashers"handsoap", but i dont think that would be suitable for this.

2. Filter it through any available filter, like a coffee filter.

3. Let the ethanol/aceton evaporate.

4. Scrape it together and store it in a bottle.

5. Put it in the cartomiser/atomizer and smoke the hell out of it.

As a side project i am also going to try to dissolve hash into vegetable glycerin or/and propylene glycol, and smoke it my electric cigarette. Any comments to this is also helpfull.

 

[SCFSYNDICATE760]

IVE DONE A LARGE SCALE BUBBLE HASH EXTRACTION....ILL START BY SAYING IT WASNT IN THE OPTIMUM STATE TO EXTRACT...THIS WOULD SAND OR UNPRESSED BUBBLE...OR KIEF...
SWIM ALSO USED BUTANE..NOT ALC...I CAN SAY IT WAS ONE OF THE SMOOTHEST KINDEST STRONGEST OILS EVER...GOOD YIELD...WE WERE CALLING IT HASH WAX...TASTES LIKE CRIP BUBBLE, BURNS LIKE OIL...LIL RESIDUE..NOT REALLY THO..
DEF BOMB...THIS WAS THE HARDEST EXTRACTION DONE TO DATE...AS FAR AS TECHNIQUE ETC....

 

[pugliese63]

I've done something very similar with both dry sift and bubble. I used 99% iso alcohol which you can usually find at nail supply stores. I took the hash, placed in a coffee filter and submersed it into the iso. I gave it a minute or two just to make sure it was dissolved and pulled filter out. What was left was a minimum amount of what would be described as a cork like material. I purged/evaporated it on a heating pad and then let it finish on its on for about a week. I'll agree 100% with SCFSYNDICATE760, it produced some of the smoothest and strongest concentrates that I've been able to make yet. No residue at all. Has a beautiful caramel like consistency and look. I've only done this twice, but will be doing again in the future. I really like the fact that you can use much less solvent. Therefore that much less to remove. Good luck, I think you'll be pleased with your results.

 

[Graywolf]

This will be my first attempt to make hash oil out of hash (weed is not available here), so any help and tips is welcome. To create this i will need ethanol, filter, heat and hash if i understand correctly. The purpose of this is to smoke it in a electric cigarette using a specialised atomizer designed for hash oil and similar thick oils.

So, please correct me if I am wrong in the prosess of making this, but here is how I am planning to do it:
1. Dissolve the hash into etanol. This causes a small problem for me, as the highest % that is legal and available here is 60%. I understand i would need 90+ for that to work? As a alternative I think i will use aceton. What would be recommended here? There is lots of other substances that does contain 95% alcohol, like handwashers"handsoap", but i dont think that would be suitable for this.

2. Filter it through any available filter, like a coffee filter.

3. Let the ethanol/aceton evaporate.

4. Scrape it together and store it in a bottle.

5. Put it in the cartomiser/atomizer and smoke the hell out of it.

As a side project i am also going to try to dissolve hash into vegetable glycerin or/and propylene glycol, and smoke it my electric cigarette. Any comments to this is also helpfull.

I made a fair amount of oil from bubble to avoid the water solubles in raw bud, before I started extracting with a non polar solvent. Since it went into oral meds, and was therefore was to be decarboxylated, I simply boiled the hash in 190 proof ethanol for 30 minutes, filtered, and evaporated off the alcohol.

That would work for your purposes, but if you want to retain in in carboxylic acid form, you will want to do a cold extraction. 60% ethanol is too weak, so you might look for 99% Isopropyl or consider using chilled butane in a thermos. Acetone will also work, but except for trying it out to see how well it works on bud, I have no experience extracting with it.

Hash doesn't dissolve rapidly in a cold solvent, so take your time and do a second extraction to insure that you get it all. After 12 hours in cold 190 proof ethanol, I still didn't have it all. I haven't tried a cold bubble hash extraction with Iso, but would suggest starting with a four hour soak, while shaking regularly.

 

[SCFSYNDICATE760]

^^^THIS

 

[pugliese63]

Thanks Graywolf, you always have good solid info. You mention using acetone. If you are extracting from kief or bubble would acetone be a good candidate? Does acetone evaporate enough to not leave behind unhealthy residuals?

I'll share my experience using acetone with plant material. I remember a piece in High Times around '87 or '88 (I know I'm showing my age) about the Jamaicans making a crude extract using acetone. Basically they were using it to strip bales of ganja and evaporating it off to make a thick black oil they called "#1" according to the article. I actually did this back then and it does produce a very thick black goo that is potent to say the least. If I remember correctly it was little harsh to smoke but would knock your ass out. I've not done that type of extraction since and given the amount of info available today would assume its not the healthiest concentrate to smoke. The acetone seemed to strip more than just resin from the plant material. There was no soak time. I put everything is cheesecloth, suspended it over a metal bucket, poured it over and drained immediately. The plant material was completely shot to say the least.

Nice thread Reeefermadness32, thanks for getting the conversation started.

 

[SCFSYNDICATE760]

the key is to take that black acetone sludge, then spin it n base it into some clear pimp shit....THEN its #1...lol

 

[SodaLicious]

I believe the key is too freeze the iso, and the hash before extraction. Then a timed soak will produce some nice clear and tasty oil. I use bud to make mine usually, and 30 seconds - 3 minutes depending on how broken up and fine the material is. Hash I'd only rinse for 60 seconds, then filter.

 

[Graywolf]

Thanks Graywolf, you always have good solid info. You mention using acetone. If you are extracting from kief or bubble would acetone be a good candidate? Does acetone evaporate enough to not leave behind unhealthy residuals?

I'll share my experience using acetone with plant material. I remember a piece in High Times around '87 or '88 (I know I'm showing my age) about the Jamaicans making a crude extract using acetone. Basically they were using it to strip bales of ganja and evaporating it off to make a thick black oil they called "#1" according to the article. I actually did this back then and it does produce a very thick black goo that is potent to say the least. If I remember correctly it was little harsh to smoke but would knock your ass out. I've not done that type of extraction since and given the amount of info available today would assume its not the healthiest concentrate to smoke. The acetone seemed to strip more than just resin from the plant material. There was no soak time. I put everything is cheesecloth, suspended it over a metal bucket, poured it over and drained immediately. The plant material was completely shot to say the least.

Nice thread Reeefermadness32, thanks for getting the conversation started.

I've extracted enough with acetone to know that you can most certainly remove the acetone to below its odor threshold of 62 ppm. As the oral LD-50 Rat for acetone is about 5800 PPM (mg/kg), and it isn't a known carcenogen, mutagen, or teratogen, so there is some operating room.

The black is actually dark greeeeeen when smeared thin on white paper, and is chlorophyll.

Acetone has a dialectric constant of 20.7, so it is definitely polar (above 15), but not as much as water, with a dialectric constant of 80.4. It is however readily miscible in water.

 

[pugliese63]

I've extracted enough with acetone to know that you can most certainly remove the acetone to below its odor threshold of 62 ppm. As the oral LD-50 Rat for acetone is about 5800 PPM (mg/kg), and it isn't a known carcenogen, mutagen, or teratogen, so there is some operating room.

The black is actually dark greeeeeen when smeared thin on white paper, and is chlorophyll.

Acetone has a dialectric constant of 20.7, so it is definitely polar (above 15), but not as much as water, with a dialectric constant of 80.4. It is however readily miscible in water.

Thank you, that makes me feel a little more confident in using acetone on dry sift or water extracted resin.

 

[tedsprogz]

I think if i remember my chemistry right, that the -cooh actually is broken down by the ISO so its decarboxylated already without heating.

 

[TheLarge]

Hey all, I live in the hash filled mid east. So here's my process and a question :

Right now I'm distilling my 70% iso up to around 90%.

Then I break up my brick into tiny pieces like BBs for faster absorption.

Soak that Shit while occasionally shaking for about an hour or two at which point most material is dissolved into what looks like diahreah water :)

Filter that twice with a coffee filter.

Put that into my glass pan for double let boiling. The key here is to wait until all bubbles stop forming on the surface of the oil when it's close to finished.

Scrape, smoke, and smile!

I'm saving the material that was left in the filter so I can spray that with butane to strip whatever was left.

I have a question though, iso is really expensive here. I'm wondering if it's OK to use moonshine. I can make a 93% shine and I know it'll dissolved my brick. I'm curious about any residue left that I may end up smoking.

 

[Graywolf]

Thanks Graywolf, you always have good solid info. You mention using acetone. If you are extracting from kief or bubble would acetone be a good candidate? Does acetone evaporate enough to not leave behind unhealthy residuals?

I'll share my experience using acetone with plant material. I remember a piece in High Times around '87 or '88 (I know I'm showing my age) about the Jamaicans making a crude extract using acetone. Basically they were using it to strip bales of ganja and evaporating it off to make a thick black oil they called "#1" according to the article. I actually did this back then and it does produce a very thick black goo that is potent to say the least. If I remember correctly it was little harsh to smoke but would knock your ass out. I've not done that type of extraction since and given the amount of info available today would assume its not the healthiest concentrate to smoke. The acetone seemed to strip more than just resin from the plant material. There was no soak time. I put everything is cheesecloth, suspended it over a metal bucket, poured it over and drained immediately. The plant material was completely shot to say the least.

Nice thread Reeefermadness32, thanks for getting the conversation started.

Acetone does a good job of extracting kif, and most anything else present, but is a know mutagen, so we don't use it.

 

[Graywolf]

Hey all, I live in the hash filled mid east. So here's my process and a question :

Right now I'm distilling my 70% iso up to around 90%.

Then I break up my brick into tiny pieces like BBs for faster absorption.

Soak that Shit while occasionally shaking for about an hour or two at which point most material is dissolved into what looks like diahreah water :)

Filter that twice with a coffee filter.

Put that into my glass pan for double let boiling. The key here is to wait until all bubbles stop forming on the surface of the oil when it's close to finished.

Scrape, smoke, and smile!

I'm saving the material that was left in the filter so I can spray that with butane to strip whatever was left.

I have a question though, iso is really expensive here. I'm wondering if it's OK to use moonshine. I can make a 93% shine and I know it'll dissolved my brick. I'm curious about any residue left that I may end up smoking.

The residuals in properly made moonshine is water. Some of our students are making their own ethanol from cracked corn and sugar and using it for extraction.