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May be a stupid question but I’m asking anyways.

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May be a stupid question but I’m asking anyways.

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Also I planted them in their final pot. Not transplanting autos I was afraid they couldn’t handle the stress.
also...this seems to be more of a wives tale in my opinion. The stress from overwatering seedlings (especially in soil) in large pots has been way worse than the stress from potting up in my experience. I've had much more success in planting directly into final pots with coco. Your mileage may vary.
 
Yeah, I did a lot of research and am enjoying the pro 69 controller. I’m strictly measuring throug VPD/kPa

I have learned that for seedlings it needs to be from .6-.8 veg .9-1.1 and flower 1.1-1.5

I’m using the ac humidifier and inline fan to control these. It continuously stays at .7 kPa and is stable. I simply need to get my lights and planting/watering down. I took the domes off. I also have a soil tester and going to get batteries for it asap to let you know but it’s stay a solid 77F in the tent since the beginning of germination.

Currently I have the MH FCE3000 at 30” and at a level of 3/10.
If you're a new grower, don't get all wrapped up in controlling VPD. If you can keep it in range, great but if you're having issues then just focus on temps and humidity.

I was just about to ask if you got the lighting adapter for your light for the Controller 69 but I see you did!

Be careful having your max fan and humidifiers setting at 10, if for some reason it went to far out of range and ramped all the way up then the fan would suck your tent walls in so tight and everything would be wet from the humidifier.

What are your transition or buffer settings for your humidifier and fan?

Lights I recommend running an advanced automation in ON Mode for your 20 hours and make another advanced automation for OFF Mode for the 4 hours.
It's fine in cycle mode but I like separate automation so there's no chance it comes on.
You can also run Sunrise/Sunset in ON mode where Cycle mode does not offer that.
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Most will tell you not to. I've done it with and without success.
That gets me nowhere haha. But I get it
I just don’t know what to do at this point so looking for a little guidance. I appreciate it
 
If you're a new grower, don't get all wrapped up in controlling VPD. If you can keep it in range, great but if you're having issues then just focus on temps and humidity.

I was just about to ask if you got the lighting adapter for your light for the Controller 69 but I see you did!

Be careful having your max fan and humidifiers setting at 10, if for some reason it went to far out of range and ramped all the way up then the fan would suck your tent walls in so tight and everything would be wet from the humidifier.

What are your transition or buffer settings for your humidifier and fan?

Lights I recommend running an advanced automation in ON Mode for your 20 hours and make another advanced automation for OFF Mode for the 4 hours.
It's fine in cycle mode but I like separate automation so there's no chance it comes on.
You can also run Sunrise/Sunset in ON mode where Cycle mode does not offer that.
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I have both my low and high buffers at +/- .1
 
I have both my low and high buffers at +/- .1
And my VPD has been on point since starting. Just no sprouting yet. It has only been about 40 hours and I had mm size taproots coming out when putting in the 1” hole.
 
And my VPD has been on point since starting. Just no sprouting yet. I has only been about 40 hours and I had mm size taproots coming out when putting in the 1” hole.
What max setting do you recommend for the fans? And I need to look into the sunrise and sunset more before adjusting so I better understand. Right now the cycle has been working as needed.
 
And my VPD has been on point since starting. Just no sprouting yet. It has only been about 40 hours and I had mm size taproots coming out when putting in the 1” hole.
Your controller picture showed 1.09 VPD, that's why I said don't get to wrapped up in VPD.
VPD is kind of new, Growers have been relying on temp and humidity much longer.
As long as your equipment isn't turning on and off constantly and ramping way up and down trying to control it then definitely go for it.
What max setting do you recommend for the fans? And I need to look into the sunrise and sunset more before adjusting so I better understand. Right now the cycle has been working as needed.
I use intake fans so my intakes will adjust with my exhausts so I'll never have a situation where my air coming in isn't enough.

With passive intake, it depends on how many flaps you have open at the bottom of the tent.
You could slowly turn up your fan until the walls are at a point that you wouldn't want it to stretch anymore and keep that as your max. I would say nothing over probably 5 or 6.

My fans always run at a minimum level of 2, I like to constantly exchange air. They only go higher when triggered by Auto Mode but will never drop lower then 2.

My humidifiers I keep at 6 max.

I'll explain sunrise/Sunset.

As you see from my last post picture, my lights are at 60% from 7am to 7pm with a 30 minute sunrise sunset.
At 7am my light will come on at level 1 and ramp up 1 level every 5 minutes until at 60%.
At 6:30 pm it will drop 1 level every 5 minutes until off at 7pm

Light power divided by how many minutes you want to ramp equals the Sunrise/Sunset duration setting.
For me
Light 60%
Divided by 5 minutes interval
Equals 30 minutes duration setting.

Idk if it does anything for my plants but I believe slowly adding power to the light over time will put less stress on the light and make it last longer.
 
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That gets me nowhere haha. But I get it
I just don’t know what to do at this point so looking for a little guidance. I appreciate it
Yeah...was thinking the same. But it's like me telling you to cut your own hair or wire your own house. I also do that...but wouldn't go around advising others to LOL.
 
I have both my low and high buffers at +/- .

Your controller picture showed 1.09 VPD, that's why I said don't get to wrapped up in VPD.
VPD is kind of new, Growers have been relying on temp and humidity much longer.
As long as your equipment isn't turning on and off constantly and ramping way up and down trying to control it then definitely go for it.

I use intake fans so my intakes will adjust with my exhausts so I'll never have a situation where my air coming in isn't enough.

With passive intake, it depends on how many flaps you have open at the bottom of the tent.
You could slowly turn up your fan until the walls are at a point that you wouldn't want it to stretch anymore and keep that as your max. I would say nothing over probably 5 or 6.

My humidifiers I keep at 6 max.

I'll explain sunrise/Sunset.

As you see from my last post picture, my lights are at 60% from 7am to 7pm with a 30 minute sunrise sunset.
At 7am my light will come on at level 1 and ramp up 1 level every 5 minutes until at 60%.
At 6:30 pm it will drop 1 level every 5 minutes until off at 7pm
Yeah, when I open the tent door for anything it shoots up, but when close and confined it remains constant at .7 kPa

I have one vent open on the bottom. The fan doesn’t kick on much during this stage but when I had it tested for veg and flower it kicked on some. Pretty much I have the vent set to where it controls the VPD through temperature. Gets to hot or cold it vents out to the proper temp to get the proper VPD. Likewise, I have the humidifier set for the low measure. When the humidity hits to low and drops the VPD the humidifier controls that. If that makes any sense. This Pro 60 Controlle is a god send and help immensely. I now need to figure out the plant part Lol. But yeah, I have one vent open at the bottoms of the tent. Should I open more. I will send you the current reading that shows the stability when the tent is closed as well.
 

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It almost sounds as though I planted too deep (1”) and didn’t wait long enough for the taproot to get to an inch. It was just popping out of all 3 shells when I decided to plant. It seems like right now I need to wait up to 14 days to see if something happens and if not I guess I’ll take this 60$ seed loss as a hit and start working on the Night Owl seeds I have on reserve and get them going.
 
It almost sounds as though I planted too deep (1”) and didn’t wait long enough for the taproot to get to an inch. It was just popping out of all 3 shells when I decided to plant. It seems like right now I need to wait up to 14 days to see if something happens and if not I guess I’ll take this 60$ seed loss as a hit and start working on the Night Owl seeds I have on reserve and get them going.
You live and you learn.
 
It almost sounds as though I planted too deep (1”) and didn’t wait long enough for the taproot to get to an inch. It was just popping out of all 3 shells when I decided to plant. It seems like right now I need to wait up to 14 days to see if something happens and if not I guess I’ll take this 60$ seed loss as a hit and start working on the Night Owl seeds I have on reserve and get them going.
Give it some more time, you're not at a loss yet.
I personally like to start my seeds (photos and autos) in a shot glass of spring water on a heat mat in a dark place for 12-18 hours.
Then I put them in a paper towel on a Tupperware lid on a heat mat.
Then once I see a tap root around the size is my picture below, I plant just a little under the surface.

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Give it some more time, you're not at a loss yet.
I personally like to start my seeds (photos and autos) in a shot glass of spring water on a heat mat in a dark place for 12-18 hours.
Then I put them in a paper towel on a Tupperware lid on a heat mat.
Then once I see a tap root around the size is my picture below, I plant just a little under the surface.

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Okay, I think thats where I messed up. It had literally just cracked the shell and was just popping out. Anxious I suppose
 
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