Mimed’s Perpetual Thread

MIMedGrower · Dec 18, 2019

Dirtbag said:
Yeah from what I've read the nerve damage happens more often with the higher doses. The pharmacist told me heavy users for chronic pain take as much as 900mg 3 times a day! That's wild, I take 100mg in the morning and again after lunch, then 200mg at night. And it's absolutely shocking how fast the pain went away on it. Like, I went from crawling and crying to walking around like nothing happened within about 2 hours.

Just how fast it deadened your nerve is a good warning sign it is possibly dangerous. How long before bad nerve effects?

This pharmaceutical shit scares me. The drug dealing doctors put me on 900 mg of theophalin every day as a child for athsma. You likely know about theophalin (sp.?). It is used to arrest coronary emergencies.

I of course never grew out of athsma and have tendency for lung and sinus infection.

And i still needed albuteral inhalers. Maybe i needed them more on the drug. And i still will die without one.

Point is. They dont care about side effects or damage and neither do the fda enough to test the pills properly. And they fucking scare the hell out of me. Why do they let this happen? Money alone cant be the reason?

MIMedGrower · Dec 18, 2019

Aqua Man said:
Yeah they started me at 300mg dosage 3 times a day. My pharmacist raised her eyebrows a bit at the starting dosage and it's usually started very low and built up. But after 1 pill I will never take it again

I was perscribed 1 pill the first day. 2 after 2 days and so on to ramp up.

I guess if it hurts enough I would try it.

I have passed no judgement on our good friend @Dirtbag for wanting relief from this horrible nerve pain. I never experienced anything like it before and we pryed a bullet out of my leg with a pocket knife once. Its as bad as that bullet burn but sustained. No one can take it.

Aqua Man · Dec 18, 2019

MIMedGrower said:
I was perscribed 1 pill the first day. 2 after 2 days and so on to ramp up.

I guess if it hurts enough I would try it.

I have passed no judgement on our good friend @Dirtbag for wanting relief from this horrible nerve pain. I never experienced anything like it before and we pryed a bullet out of my leg with a pocket knife once. Its as bad as that bullet burn but sustained. No one can take it.

Much agreed.... Have to do what works

oldskol4evr · Dec 18, 2019

Dirtbag said:
Yeah from what I've read the nerve damage happens more often with the higher doses. The pharmacist told me heavy users for chronic pain take as much as 900mg 3 times a day! That's wild, I take 100mg in the morning and again after lunch, then 200mg at night. And it's absolutely shocking how fast the pain went away on it. Like, I went from crawling and crying to walking around like nothing happened within about 2 hours.

thats the setup for addiction bro,use it only when needed,that statement at the end of what you say is the hook,you have a broken part a pill aint gonna fix it,been there and can say i wish i would have just found me a sweet looking china girl that weight was a hundred pounds and let her walk all over me hahaha,careful no shit man,
like i said last night ,i was on 3 difrent ones,had me walking on clouds and bullet proof,shit hard to walk from just because it does feel good ,the HOOK

oldskol4evr · Dec 18, 2019

MIMedGrower said:
Just how fast it deadened your nerve is a good warning sign it is possibly dangerous. How long before bad nerve effects?

This pharmaceutical shit scares me. The drug dealing doctors put me on 900 mg of theophalin every day as a child for athsma. You likely know about theophalin (sp.?). It is used to arrest coronary emergencies.

I of course never grew out of athsma and have tendency for lung and sinus infection.

And i still needed albuteral inhalers. Maybe i needed them more on the drug. And i still will die without one.

Point is. They dont care about side effects or damage and neither do the fda enough to test the pills properly. And they fucking scare the hell out of me. Why do they let this happen? Money alone cant be the reason?

have you ever noticed or been in your doctors office and some cutie come walking in with a suitcase full of drugs?i always say to mama well which drug they gonna push today,i swear every time i go to the doc one comes walking in

oldskol4evr · Dec 18, 2019

it was opisite for me,all the nerve meds and relaxers was to get me off opiates,they work ,but just hook you into them instead,what opened my eyes to liver damage was the spots that started showing up on my arms,
i cant throw a stone either,but as long as im alive folk will know that them doc are in the pocket of big pharms ,that they will im still living proof of it some how

MIMedGrower · Dec 18, 2019

My uncle was an anesthesiologist and my brother an MD working as a Hospitalist. Mom is a computer scientist but fully supports the doctors and pharmaceuticals.

They do not like my “attitude” about the health care system.

Moshmen · Dec 18, 2019

MIMedGrower said:
So I realize @Aqua Man and @oldskol4evr I didnt put up the rest of the pics. The plants are in different stages of hunger and lockout now that i tried different water only or light feeds. They were watered 3-6 days ago.

Watered only. Still 2.0ec and the fan leaf damage had barely started when I watered.
Red stems. Reddish blotching to necrosis. Phosphorous. And some calcium spots along with it. I think
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This plant has improved but I believe is 6 days dry now. 1.4ec. Did not need more water yet. Looks hungry now instead of hurting. Love how they keep making buds while I tey to kill them. Lol
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Thats all I got. Fans dead and gone on the farther along Heri Jack. And the almost ready for harvest critical mass is greening up now that she should be done and growing bigger buds. Amazing plants despite human interference. ;-)

Thanks for sharing! We now know you guys are human! Lol

Dirtbag · Dec 18, 2019

Well you guys have convinced me to make a docs apt for tomorrow to talk about this stuff. I am certainly starting to feel a bit weird for sure. Odd feeling in my leg like a phone is ringing, but there is no phone in my pocket. Fingers and toes feeling a bit tingly.. Not cool. And definately a bit of brain fog.

Gonna see if I can go back to flexoril or something. I'm not enjoying the way it's making me feel at all, despite my back pain being gone. This conversation isnt helping any either lol..

Moshmen · Dec 18, 2019

MIMedGrower said:
I want to thank everyone for chiming in here. This helps so much to narrow down the causes.

What a great group we have here. If it was riu this would be a troll fest by now.

I thank you for sharing the discussion! Guys like me learn so much from just following along !

Moshmen · Dec 18, 2019

Dirtbag said:
Well you guys have convinced me to make a docs apt for tomorrow to talk about this stuff. I am certainly starting to feel a bit weird for sure. Odd feeling in my leg like a phone is ringing, but there is no phone in my pocket. Fingers and toes feeling a bit tingly.. Not cool. And definately a bit of brain fog.

Gonna see if I can go back to flexoril or something. I'm not enjoying the way it's making me feel at all, despite my back pain being gone. This conversation isnt helping any either lol..

Sorry to hear that but I am glad they convinced you to ck it out! Good luck and take care of urself!

Moshmen · Dec 18, 2019

MIMedGrower said:
Cyclobenzaprine is flexural. I really didnt like how i felt on that. But it did seem to unclamp my spine some.

I have no personal experience but I have a couple of friends that use some form of cbd for nerve/muscle inflammation

Moshmen · Dec 18, 2019

SkunkyDunk said:
I try my best to stay homeopathic remedies in our house.
We grow lots of stuff in our garden.
Somniferum pods are great to have around for tea when I have pains my bud can't conquer and have no side effects like the RX opiates.
We use Swedish Bitters, colloidal silver, Lugol's etc. to try and stay ahead of crap.
We make our own wines.
Our own tomato sauce, pickles. We try to stay organic in all we do. Though it's impossible to be 100%.

Where are you able to buy poppies? the last seeds I bought didn’t germinate

Dirtbag · Dec 18, 2019

Moshmen said:
Where are you able to buy poppies? the last seeds I bought didn’t germinate

I've always used organic bulk poppy seeds from the health food store. They're harvested from papaver somniferum, last time I did it I got really nice poppies out of it, not sure what kind they were but they had beautiful purple flowers and a nice large oozy bulb.

Last couple times I planted I had bad weather for sewing and they didnt take.
I will try again this year.You can also buy giganthamum pods online for flower arrangements and just make tea with them or do a water extraction and process it.

MIMedGrower · Dec 18, 2019

Moshmen said:
I have no personal experience but I have a couple of friends that use some form of cbd for nerve/muscle inflammation

Cbd alone did not help me one bit. I tried it for months.

Aqua Man · Dec 18, 2019

Dirtbag said:
Well you guys have convinced me to make a docs apt for tomorrow to talk about this stuff. I am certainly starting to feel a bit weird for sure. Odd feeling in my leg like a phone is ringing, but there is no phone in my pocket. Fingers and toes feeling a bit tingly.. Not cool. And definately a bit of brain fog.

Gonna see if I can go back to flexoril or something. I'm not enjoying the way it's making me feel at all, despite my back pain being gone. This conversation isnt helping any either lol..

Good plan and from my understanding it's only like 25% ish success rate. It's low success with high risk of side effects and my own experience stops me. Now you may be one of the few with no side effects and seeing results but always best to have the conversation and make an informed decision. I think we can all agree none of it is good but when it's necessary finding what still works with the least harm or risk is best. And that can be different for everyone

Aqua Man · Dec 18, 2019

There is a specific type of poppy that is what is considered best for opium production. It's commonly sold at greenhouses. I can't remember the name. I can try to find it again as I did research it quite a bit a while ago.

My wife's father was just diagnosed with leukemia I just found out she she does not know yet. Heading to pick her up from work now so I may be semi absent for a bit as we figure out what's going on and she will need some support.

MIMedGrower · Dec 18, 2019

Moshmen said:
Thanks for sharing! We now know you guys are human! Lol

Lol. Thanks.

MIMedGrower · Dec 18, 2019

Dirtbag said:
Well you guys have convinced me to make a docs apt for tomorrow to talk about this stuff. I am certainly starting to feel a bit weird for sure. Odd feeling in my leg like a phone is ringing, but there is no phone in my pocket. Fingers and toes feeling a bit tingly.. Not cool. And definately a bit of brain fog.

Gonna see if I can go back to flexoril or something. I'm not enjoying the way it's making me feel at all, despite my back pain being gone. This conversation isnt helping any either lol..

That was fast. I hope we havent messed your head up and you are exasperating symptoms. But pharmaceutical companies are allowed to hurt us for their political contributions.

When i worked for the small homeopathic company our fda rep wanted a bribe to give us a fair expiration date on a product that does not expire.

Turns out medicine expiration dates are the result of how large your coorperation is not when the product goes bad.

We got a year. Big companies can store pills in their werehouse legally for years.

MIMedGrower · Dec 18, 2019

Aqua Man said:
There is a specific type of poppy that is what is considered best for opium production. It's commonly sold at greenhouses. I can't remember the name. I can try to find it again as I did research it quite a bit a while ago.

My wife's father was just diagnosed with leukemia I just found out she she does not know yet. Heading to pick her up from work now so I may be semi absent for a bit as we figure out what's going on and she will need some support.

Good luck Aqua. Tough one.

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